Canada, Greenland, Mexico, etc - USA Tariffs / Trade War commencing March 2025 #4

[Trooper]

The stuff I see on this thread is wild. I live here in southern Ontario Canada and don't see, hear, or experience any of what's being claimed on this thread about life, and folk's opinions here in Canada.

Maybe it's just the folks I associate with. Or maybe it's something else. I honestly can't say.

Either way, folks should know there are probably way more than 2 sides to every story.

jmo

You could reveal this " third" or even 'Fourth side'.. and add to the education.. Tell us about the word in your local Loblaws...

( for those outside Canada.. Loblaws is Canada's IGA, or Safeway.or Coles.. or for the Brits it's Tesco Morrisons, Sainsbury's , er. Asda... forget the others!! _)

 

[SouthAussie]

The stuff I see on this thread is wild. I live here in southern Ontario Canada and don't see, hear, or experience any of what's being claimed on this thread about life, and folk's opinions here in Canada.

Links have been provided for every fact stated here.

imo

 

[iamshadow21]

Good news about beef! China used to buy beef from the US, but that's not affordable any more. The US wants to tarrif Australian beef because they're mad they buy so much from us.

We're both down a dance partner since the US wants to sad uncle shuffle on the floor alone.

They want beef. We have beef. Oh, look, that's how trade works.

Australian beef demand surges as US trade with China grinds to a halt

Australian grain-fed beef exports to China are surging as the trade war with the US escalates, but some are warning of a bigger, more worrying picture.

www.abc.net.au

MOO

 

[otto]

Has the USA gone completely mad? Kennedy will identify the cause of autism by September 2025. Trump think's that vaccines cause autism. A man who practiced medicine on a child without a medical licence, and who believes that vaccines cause autism, is leading the study. We know what Kennedy will announce in September: vaccines cause autism. Is this another angle to reduce government spending?

This is complete lunacy with Trump running the show. He is making financial and medical decisions for an entire population even though he has no knowledge in either area. Everything from global tariffs to arrest for freedom of speech comments/protest seem to be geared towards destroying democracy and quality of life.

"U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has pledged that the country's top health agency will pinpoint the cause of autism by September, an announcement which sparked a wave of concern among medical experts and advocates who question the feasibility and focus of the research.
...

Trump suggested that vaccines could be to blame for autism rates, even though decades of research have concluded there is no link between the two.

Kennedy's project is already off to a rocky start. The Department of Health and Human Services has hired David Geier, a man who was once fined by the state of Maryland for practicing medicine on a child without a doctor's license and has repeatedly claimed a link between vaccines and autism, to lead the federal research effort."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/rfk-autism-study-1.7508733

 

[iamshadow21]

Has the USA gone completely mad? Kennedy will identify the cause of autism by September 2025. Trump think's that vaccines cause autism. A man who practiced medicine on a child without a medical licence, and who believes that vaccines cause autism, is leading the study. We know what Kennedy will announce in September: vaccines cause autism. Is this another angle to reduce government spending?

This is complete lunacy with Trump running the show. He is making financial and medical decisions for an entire population even though he has no knowledge in either area. Everything from global tariffs to arrest for freedom of speech comments/protest seem to be geared towards destroying democracy and quality of life.

"U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has pledged that the country's top health agency will pinpoint the cause of autism by September, an announcement which sparked a wave of concern among medical experts and advocates who question the feasibility and focus of the research.
...

Trump suggested that vaccines could be to blame for autism rates, even though decades of research have concluded there is no link between the two.

Kennedy's project is already off to a rocky start. The Department of Health and Human Services has hired David Geier, a man who was once fined by the state of Maryland for practicing medicine on a child without a doctor's license and has repeatedly claimed a link between vaccines and autism, to lead the federal research effort."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/rfk-autism-study-1.7508733

You've already got a measles outbreak.

How many kids are going to die from preventable diseases if they cancel vaccination programmes and production because the people running things are so scared of neurodivergent people they'd rather kids were dead? Because that's what it amounts to. The chance of a child dying unnecessarily of something like measles is less frightening to them than them being autistic.

Newsflash - vaccination doesn't cause autism, and measles kills any kid it likes. It doesn't give a damn about their neurotype.

Have about the best thing Roald Dahl ever wrote, that made a big impact on the lives of children.

Measles: A Dangerous Illness - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

MOO

 

[Lilibet]

This is complete lunacy with Trump running the show. He is making financial and medical decisions for an entire population even though he has no knowledge in either area. Everything from global tariffs to arrest for freedom of speech comments/protest seem to be geared towards destroying democracy and quality of life.

BBM

Yup. Yup. Yup. Be glad you don’t live here. It’s heartbreaking and scary as h**l.

 

[SouthAussie]

Has the USA gone completely mad? Kennedy will identify the cause of autism by September 2025. Trump think's that vaccines cause autism.

No point in them looking at the well-respected research that has already been done - lots and lots of it - I suppose. Just spend a whole bunch of taxpayer dollars to "prove" something that can fit their narrative.

Eg:
European Journal of Paediatric Neurology - The myth of vaccination and autism spectrum

imo

 

[Trooper]

Has the USA gone completely mad? Kennedy will identify the cause of autism by September 2025. Trump think's that vaccines cause autism. A man who practiced medicine on a child without a medical licence, and who believes that vaccines cause autism, is leading the study. We know what Kennedy will announce in September: vaccines cause autism. Is this another angle to reduce government spending?

This is complete lunacy with Trump running the show. He is making financial and medical decisions for an entire population even though he has no knowledge in either area. Everything from global tariffs to arrest for freedom of speech comments/protest seem to be geared towards destroying democracy and quality of life.

"U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has pledged that the country's top health agency will pinpoint the cause of autism by September, an announcement which sparked a wave of concern among medical experts and advocates who question the feasibility and focus of the research.
...

Trump suggested that vaccines could be to blame for autism rates, even though decades of research have concluded there is no link between the two.

Kennedy's project is already off to a rocky start. The Department of Health and Human Services has hired David Geier, a man who was once fined by the state of Maryland for practicing medicine on a child without a doctor's license and has repeatedly claimed a link between vaccines and autism, to lead the federal research effort."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/rfk-autism-study-1.7508733

Reason # 3,000 why Canadians don't want to be Americans, I would hazard a guess..

The least one should expect that one's own Health Secretary has , at the very minimum a nodding relationship with peer reviewed medical qualifications. The very least. It's as if Americans want to die, painfully. And everyone else, too!!

Otherwise any hobo on the street could have an opinion and rise to the heights of political appointee.

 

[SouthAussie]

China is looking for new suppliers... Brazil, Argentina, India, Paraguay, Russia, Bolivia, South Africa, Italy, Indonesia, and Serbia, Australia, Canada. ( ( which is the 5th largest producer in the world ,( Xi will be talking with Mr. Carney, no doubt..

One thing I notice about China is that Xi is actually travelling to strengthen trade and economic relationships.

Trump seems to be sitting in the US waiting for the phone to ring.

imo


Chinese President Xi Jinping will embark on a diplomatic tour of three Southeast Asian countries next week, as Beijing seeks to strengthen regional ties and counter growing economic pressure from the United States. The Chinese Foreign Ministry announced on Friday that Jinping will visit Vietnam from April 14 to 15, followed by Malaysia and Cambodia from April 15 to 18.

https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/xi-jinping-southeast-asia-visit-trump-china-us-trade-war-tensions-125041100241_1.html

 

[Lilibet]

It's as if Americans want to die, painfully. And everyone else, too!!

I know you really mean the government. We Americans don’t want to die, painfully or otherwise. Nor do we want everyone else to die either. But the government apparently wants us all to die and leave only oligarchs behind.

JMO

 

[Kemug]

Navalny is dead

I know. Heroes take that risk.

 

[Trooper]

One thing I notice about China is that Xi is actually travelling to strengthen trade and economic relationships.

Trump seems to be sitting in the US waiting for the phone to ring.

imo


Chinese President Xi Jinping will embark on a diplomatic tour of three Southeast Asian countries next week, as Beijing seeks to strengthen regional ties and counter growing economic pressure from the United States. The Chinese Foreign Ministry announced on Friday that Jinping will visit Vietnam from April 14 to 15, followed by Malaysia and Cambodia from April 15 to 18.

https://www.business-standard.com/w...s-trade-war-tensions-125041100241_1.html[/URL

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Trump simply does not intuit how ... as if he has fallen from the sky last week..

 

[LadyL]

here we go with layoffs ...​

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GM temporarily halting CAMI plant on low demand, 500 jobs to be cut​

MSN

 

[Trooper]

Trump simply does not intuit how the Chinese think... I don't hold myself out as an expert.... but a short history lookup would tell Trump that the Chinese he is dealing with today were engineers and scientists before they were politicians.. .. that each member of the Commitee is a single child of single child parents, who were the single child of his grandparents.. .. no effort spared on education, specifically maths and science, and languages... sheltered and protected by parents and as the only grandchild , indulged up to a point, steered into achieving the very best outcome..

The Chinese pay terrific amounts to get their kids into Cambridge, or Oxford or MIT or Melbourne U or UCLA , they start saving at birth, and the grands kick in.,. They know from their parents how to endure, and overcome, and thrive...

There is no way, a Chinese person , a politician, would tell his constituents that they've been ripped off for years. . it makes people angry, but at the same time it makes them weak. Insipid and gullible, and helpless. He should know all this , know your enemy, but he seems to be completely ignorant of ANY nationality.. He is at a standstill, he has no idea how the Europeans think , or the Brits. or the South Africans, or the Japanese.. he is really blind to it all.

 

[SouthAussie]

here we go with layoffs ...​

​

GM temporarily halting CAMI plant on low demand, 500 jobs to be cut​

MSN

I think Carney has announced assistance for the auto industry - should he become the next Canadian PM.

• Create a $2 billion Strategic Response Fund to boost our auto sector’s competitiveness, protect manufacturing jobs, support workers to upskill their expertise in the industry, and build a fortified Canadian supply chain – from raw materials to finished vehicles.
• Build an “All-in-Canada” network for auto manufacturing component parts. With this network, we will work with industry to build more car parts in Canada, limit those parts crossing the border during production, and attract investment into our own industry.
• Maximize Canada’s Steel, Aluminum, and Critical Minerals – from exploration to battery production – to seize this economic opportunity, create higher-paying jobs, and build the strongest economy in the G7.
• Leverage government funding to prioritize and procure Canadian-built vehicles, catalyzing domestic investment to grow the Canadian auto industry.

Liberals to protect Canadian auto workers and stand up against tariffs | Liberal Party of Canada

President Trump’s tariffs have directly threatened Canada’s auto manufacturing sector. Today, Mark Carney announced a new Liberal plan to protect Canadian auto workers and industry, fight American tariffs, and build a stronger Canada.

liberal.ca

 

[Trooper]

Trump simply does not intuit how ... as if he has fallen from the sky last week..

That press secretary was a but hysterical about the phone calls, 'yes yes THEY HAVE BEEN RINGING< 75!! . my media bird on Heard Island got back to me , he's been on military parole , I asked him where to ? and he said him and little gang of Penguin Rangers , and a few leopard seals have been swimming around from rock to Island , ringing the Whitehouse and hanging up.. That's where the calls are coming from..

 

[IzzyBlanche]

This is ridiculous and so unnecessary. I think the rest of the world should just boycott any visits to the US until Trump is gone.

As an American, I quite agree. I would be afraid to come here from anywhere in the rest of the world.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I live in an area that sees lot of Americans each summer. They are good, decent people. I really hate what Trump is doing to the world, but I don't blame it on every American. If our lives are horrendous, theirs must be even worse.

Thank you, from an American who has never voted for Trump and who has no close friends or family who did, and is appalled at what is going on.

It's good to see someone recognizes that those who do not support Trump are not a tiny minority.

Edited for clarity, I hope

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Trump simply does not intuit how the Chinese think... I don't hold myself out as an expert.... but a short history lookup would tell Trump that the Chinese he is dealing with today were engineers and scientists before they were politicians.. .. that each member of the Commitee is a single child of single child parents, who were the single child of his grandparents.. .. no effort spared on education, specifically maths and science, and languages... sheltered and protected by parents and as the only grandchild , indulged up to a point, steered into achieving the very best outcome..

The Chinese pay terrific amounts to get their kids into Cambridge, or Oxford or MIT or Melbourne U or UCLA , they start saving at birth, and the grands kick in.,. They know from their parents how to endure, and overcome, and thrive...

There is no way, a Chinese person , a politician, would tell his constituents that they've been ripped off for years. . it makes people angry, but at the same time it makes them weak. Insipid and gullible, and helpless. He should know all this , know your enemy, but he seems to be completely ignorant of ANY nationality.. He is at a standstill, he has no idea how the Europeans think , or the Brits. or the South Africans, or the Japanese.. he is really blind to it all.

Yay!! Communist China. No way I’d want to live there.

 

[Sillybilly]

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