Found Deceased NH - Celina Cass, 11, Stewartstown, 25 July 2011 # 4 *Arrest*

[MarthaM]

How would she get from sitting at her computer at night to being hit by a car?
Did anyone suggest it was her habit to walk alone at night at 11 years old?

That's my point exactly.

Where has it been proven that she left the house when it was dark out, whether by her own choice or someone else's?

As I understand it, she was last seen the night before at 9 pm-ish (I think that was the time?) and she was discovered to be missing the next morning. That doesn't translate to her leaving the house a few minutes after she was last seen. There are a lot of hours to think about.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Well that's interesting. I never heard of corrections officials implanting a transmitter to keep track of a schizophrenic. Why don't they do this to pedophiles??:banghead:

If true, LE may know where he was at all times before and after Celina disappeared.

From the phrasing it sounds like this was one of his delusions, not something that actually happened.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Is this enlarged picture what you are going for???

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3724/bodyu.jpg

I *think* it might just be what they put her on? You know, when they take someone off a mountain... they put them IN, not ON a stretcher...
It has small sides so they don't roll out? I think it's one of those... from the Blackhawk.

(I am not posting the actual picture because it is of them bringing Celina out of the water.)

http://www.wmur.com/news/28732488/detail.html

I agree. Looks to me like it is similar to this:
http://med-dept.com/images/litter_article/9938500.jpg

 

[mck16]

That's my point exactly.

Where has it been proven that she left the house when it was dark out, whether by her own choice or someone else's?

As I understand it, she was last seen the night before at 9 pm-ish (I think that was the time?) and she was discovered to be missing the next morning. That doesn't translate to her leaving the house a few minutes after she was last seen. There are a lot of hours to think about.

It was said that she had posted on FB that she was trying to decide if she wanted to take a walk. Now, I don't know if that was posted that night or not, and if it was what time it was posted.

 

[HRCODEPINK]

anyone else thinking this might wind up rather surprising?
not asking for your thoughts per se, just are you thinking it

As of this moment, my money is not on WN.

ETA: that could change, but I am hoping it doesn't

 

[The Farm]

Is this enlarged picture what you are going for???

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3724/bodyu.jpg

I *think* it might just be what they put her on? You know, when they take someone off a mountain... they put them IN, not ON a stretcher...
It has small sides so they don't roll out? I think it's one of those... from the Blackhawk.

(I am not posting the actual picture because it is of them bringing Celina out of the water.)

http://www.wmur.com/news/28732488/detail.html

That picture me to looks like their is more than a little girl in it but I am not sure of their method of rescue. Looks as if she was pulled up a straight cliff, why couldn't they carry her around by land? I would have to really see the area.

Also I never saw any pictures posted of the rescuers taking her out of the water, this is the only one that I saw posted.

 

[Magdalyn]

Is this enlarged picture what you are going for???

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3724/bodyu.jpg

I *think* it might just be what they put her on? You know, when they take someone off a mountain... they put them IN, not ON a stretcher...
It has small sides so they don't roll out? I think it's one of those... from the Blackhawk.

(I am not posting the actual picture because it is of them bringing Celina out of the water.)

http://www.wmur.com/news/28732488/detail.html

Yeah, it might be the edges of the rescue basket.

GRAPHIC
It sort of looks to me (sorry sweet Celina) like she's in the white bag, then the white bag is strapped into the liter/basket that happens to be white on the edges. And boxiness I see at the shoulder/upper arm area (sorry) might be padding/tube inflatables inside the white bag to protect Celina from jarring. At the bottom, it may be billowed out because the water is collected there as they draw the liter up.

Here's a few links for some rescue equipment I found. Not sure I'm posting them right...

http://www.lifesavingsystems.com/base/general/frm_lsc.htm

http://www.rocknrescue.com/acatalog...o-Piece-Stainless-Steel-Basket-Stretcher.html

 

[jjenny]

From the phrasing it sounds like this was one of his delusions, not something that actually happened.

Exactly. I don't think LE is implanting transmitters into schizophrenics, but it's not uncommon for paranoid schizophrenics to think people are spying on them, implanting things into them to follow them, etc.

 

[justanother]

There are many things that could have happened to her and many people with access to her. SF, mother, brother, sister, neighbor, stranger or a friend.

I hope they release more info on COD later and i hope that they are thorough and concise in collecting evidence. I would hate to see someone else walk away from hurting a child unpunished because of a technicality.

 

[sreshowtime]

Just wondering where was it said that a helicopter was used in the actual recovery? The video shows a number of workers pulling a rope...and to some the, ah basket, appeared rather heavy.

 

[Ama11]

It was said that she had posted on FB that she was trying to decide if she wanted to take a walk. Now, I don't know if that was posted that night or not, and if it was what time it was posted.

It does't mean she was really the person who posted that message.

 

[The Farm]

OK, all animals fed, I just turned on NECN to see what they have to say.

 

[katydid23]

That's my point exactly.

Where has it been proven that she left the house when it was dark out, whether by her own choice or someone else's?

As I understand it, she was last seen the night before at 9 pm-ish (I think that was the time?) and she was discovered to be missing the next morning. That doesn't translate to her leaving the house a few minutes after she was last seen. There are a lot of hours to think about.

I suppose she could have left the house early that morning. But I would wonder why. I don't know any 11 yr olds who get up and go out, unannounced, at 7 am, in the summer. It would surprise me.

 

[Circus]

Her body was recovered very close to home for being someone (i.e. a trucker) who happened upon her and scooped her up. I think she would have been found a greater distance away (if at all) if that had happened. Someone only had a small window to be away from home to dispose of her.

I really do agree with this. I was never too keen on the trucker abduction speculation. This seems to be an affirmation of my reservations.

 

[jjenny]

I suppose she could have left the house early that morning. But I would wonder why. I don't know any 11 yr olds who get up and go out, unannounced, at 7 am, in the summer. It would surprise me.

Neither do I. If she had plans with someone, that's one thing, but alone?
I doubt it.

 

[MsFacetious]

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110730/NEWS07/110729845

http://abcnews.go.com/search?searchtext=celina&r=photo

 

[katydid23]

It was said that she had posted on FB that she was trying to decide if she wanted to take a walk. Now, I don't know if that was posted that night or not, and if it was what time it was posted.

That was not posted the same day. It was weeks earlier, IIRC, and about 5 pm.

 

[kalekona]

Exactly. I don't think LE is implanting transmitters into schizophrenics, but it's not uncommon for paranoid schizophrenics to think people are spying on them, implanting things into them to follow them, etc.

Mental Illness is a huge problem and schizophrenics not staying on medication common- I have always wondered why they couldn't formulate something like Norplant that can deliver the medication daily.

 

[mck16]

It does't mean she was really the person who posted that message.

You think that someone else was on her facebook? That is interesting. Trying to throw people off the trail. thanks.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

I said on another thread that I think the abuse and murder of children is a modern-day holocaust.

Children aren't alone; anyone can become prey. Consider, for example, the femicides in Juarez or Vancouver's downtown Eastside. I chose these 2 examples because I'm more familiar with them, but kids aren't the only ones we should be looking out for.