GUILTY NJ - Autumn Pasquale, 12, Clayton, 20 Oct 2012 - #2

[zero]

That might be significant: "One of the teens in the home traded BMX bike parts, according to a young man, Corey Hewes, 19, who said he was among those who traded with him." http://www.omaha.com/article/20121023/AP09/310239970

Nice way of saying chop shop for bikes.

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[Jersey*Girl]

& backpack...

Key words...

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

What I am having such a difficult time with is the way that these beautiful human beings, who are the light of their parents lives and important to so many people, wind up being treated like trash.
I am too empathetic by nature, and I have not allowed myself to step into any of the realities that the parents are now living. I find that even attempting to go there makes me experience the kind of pain that I did not know existed.
I ask the Universe to dull the sharpness of this pain, if only for a while, so that they can make it through the next few days without vacating their emotional selves or the physical bodies they inhabit.

And I hope the same for the parents of the boys, or if their parents aren't around, then for other relatives, social workers, friends, or whoever cares about them. :twocents: jmo, as always.

 

[Simp]

Yes that backpack was in the "bag of evidence "

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Is there any talk there if this was accidental or intentional??

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Almost all of these MSM articles are wording things as "killing of" or "murder of"...is this a confirmed homicide?

I guess I'm hoping there's still a chance it could've been an accident.

Oh, me too, me too.

 

[zero]

That information I can not disclose cause it has not been authorized for release to media..... so you will have to wait till 4.

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[Jersey*Girl]

Nice way of saying chop shop for bikes.

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Exactly.

Guess I'm not so dumb afterall...

Hey zero, really glad you're verified now. Didn't think that you guys would be there today since her body was found. I missed the comment last night. I assumed it would only be investigators involved from here on out. I'm sorry. I stayed off of the net today knowing I'd be tempted to check in but needed sleep...

 

[Jersey*Girl]

That information I can not disclose cause it has not been authorized for release to media..... so you will have to wait till 4.

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When do they anticipate the preliminary autopsy report?

 

[QueenD]

Yes that backpack was in the "bag of evidence "

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Rut Roh, not looking good for the ones there.

 

[Roselvr]

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[mysterygirl]

That information I can not disclose cause it has not been authorized for release to media..... so you will have to wait till 4.

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So there is a conclusion or answer to that question?

 

[vasportsmom]

Everytime that space ship lands the thread blows up for a few seconds. LOL

Do you think we could get Salem to come mod us? No needles, no probes or no spaceships to blow up the thread?


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[Linda7NJ]

Is there any talk there if this was accidental or intentional??

I would expect a defense attorney will be making the argument it was some sort of accident, however when someone throws the body of a 12 year old away like garbage.... That screams INTENT to me.

 

[zero]

Exactly.

Guess I'm not so dumb afterall...

Hey zero, really glad you're verified now. Didn't think that you guys would be there today since her body was found. I missed the comment last night. I assumed it would only be investigators involved from here on out. I'm sorry. I stayed off of the net today knowing I'd be tempted to check in but needed sleep...

I know people so was "permitted " but I just have to be here till the end

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[vasportsmom]

Yes that backpack was in the "bag of evidence "

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There goes the hope they innocently found the bike and brought it home.


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[kenya2009]

How long does it normally take to find out cause of death?

 

[zero]

I would expect a defense attorney will be making the argument it was some sort of accident, however when someone throws the body of a 12 year old away like garbage.... That screams INTENT to me.

Intent or frightened impulse

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[Jan]

For those of you who want to know what you can do to prevent these things from happening. Start at the local level in your own community. My husband and I have volunteered for 7 years now in a prevention program run by 3 paid prevention specialists, and all the other workers are volunteers. We try to prevent drug, alcohol, and tobacco use, child abuse, crime, violence, etc. We have a program where children come with their parents 3 days a week for classes, dinner, tutoring, homework help, and recreation. We give parenting classes, classes on nutrition, on bully prevention, communication skills, etc. We teach parents and kids how to settle differences without violence and we foster family and community bonding. We also, in the same place, have time sharing where people use their skills to help someone else and the person helped uses his/her talents to help a different person. That way people get needed services without having to pay money for them. We have a food coop there and a community garden. We, as a group, can and freeze vegetables and fruit that is locally and organically grown and divide it among us for use when fresh foods are out of season. My husband and I are the cooks for the program and we make a nutritious meal for about 40 people 3 days a week. Kids are tutored in school subjects where they need help and are given homework help so they will get good grades in school. We are doing this in one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the most dangerous and violent city in the United States. The group is building a safe and clean house for college students to live in while going to college in this area. Empty lots are being bought to turn into gardens, and also hoop houses for all year around gardening are being built. Kids are offered movies and popcorn, bingo, speakers for various topics, games, and other things to do that keep them off the streets and safe. People volunteer to walk with the kids to school so they get there safely. Get together with other willing people and find a place (maybe a church or school) where you can meet and brainstorm what you can do. Check out resources in your town that can help. Write grant requests and ask for donations from businesses and churches to help with expenses. Form a 501C3 non-profit status for your group. Don't just wring your hands and wonder why things don't get better--get active and make them better! My husband and I don't even live in the city where we volunteer. We live in a reasonably safe, clean, and pretty suburb. But we care about the city kids and their welfare. Rally the troops and make things safer for our kids and grandkids. Also, teach kids how to be safe and avoid dangerous situations. Buddy kids up so they don't go anywhere alone. Form block clubs and watch out for each other. Be aware of who belongs on your street and who doesn't. People helping people makes a big difference. And do background checks on volunteers and no volunteer is ever alone with a child. Always have 2 unrelated volunteers with every child.

 

[Hopeful One]

How long does it normally take to find out cause of death? That should really let us know if this was intentional or accidental.

I imagine they would have the COD now if it was strangulation/gun shot/blunt force trauma, etc. It takes longer when there's nothing like that and they have to wait for toxicology.

 

[QueenD]

I would expect a defense attorney will be making the argument it was some sort of accident, however when someone throws the body of a 12 year old away like garbage.... That screams INTENT to me.

It is so sad we live in a world that a human being of any age would be tossed in the trash. It is heart breaking.