AMBER ALERT NJ - Dulce Mariá Alavez, 5, abducted at Bridgeton City Park, Cumberland County, 16 Sept 2019 #2

[moonlessnight]

have they searched the water at Jeddy's pond and Cohansey River?

 

[moonlessnight]

with no evidence of foul play, they will assume the missing person is alive.

Someone mentioned upthread about the determination of children with a missing father to go with him if he shows up. If someone claims to be the father, the child may not know better.

At this time, investigators believe that the child is alive. If they believed that this was a random abduction, they would know that the child was dead in 45 minutes to 2 hours.

The hope is that the father, who is unreachable, has care of the missing child.

 

[katydid23]

Statistics on missing kids from the Klaas foundation:

National Child Kidnapping Facts

• Nearly 90% of missing children have simply misunderstood directions or miscommunicated their plans, are lost, or have run away.
• 9% are kidnapped by a family member in a custody dispute.
• 3% are abducted by non-family members, usually during the commission of a crime such as robbery or sexual assault. The kidnapper is often someone the child knows.
• Only about 100 children (a fraction of 1%) are kidnapped each year in the stereotypical stranger abductions you hear about in the news.
• About half of these 100 children come home.

Amateur opinion and speculation only

"Only about 100 children (a fraction of 1%) are kidnapped each year in the stereotypical stranger abductions you hear about in the news."

That ^^ is true.
However, that 99% of missing children that are lost, or runaways, or taken by family or friends, are not usually taken from a park in the afternoon. I think they are usually from custody battles or family struggles, and are taken during visitation or taken from their grandparents or stepparents homes or maybe picked up from school, or something like that.

This particular case seems more like a possible random abduction, imo.

If we are going to talk about percentages of ALL missing children, then random stranger abductions would be only 1% to 3%.

But if we talk about how many unsupervised children that go missing from a park in the afternoon, are from stranger abductions as opposed to family custody disputes or getting lost, the number would-be much higher than 1%, imo.

 

[moonlessnight]

this PC is interesting. FBI says watch for the typical, unplanned, unexpected post-crime changes in behavior. It appears that LE/FBI considers this a stranger abduction.

 

[otto]

with no evidence of foul play, they will assume the missing person is alive.

Indeed. Without a body, investigators must pursue a living person. However, investigators know that a missing female of any age in a random opportunity abduction is dead in less than 2 hours. The only hope that this child is alive is that she is with her father. That's the best case scenario. What is more likely is that this was a bizarre abduction by a young man dressed to play basketball who instead abducted a 5 year old next to a basketball court. Where I see a problem is that the abductor was dressed to fit in at the park while abducting a child from the playground.

 

[moonlessnight]

this was very helpful. so there was a surveillance camera? I wish we knew if they caught the abduction on camera. I wonder if parking in that location indicates a planned abduction, or just happenstance/convenience for b-ball courts?

ETA - is that a tennis court near where the parking area where the red van was probably parked?

Abductors probably like to hide the child as soon after abduction as possible, and if it is possible to leave the area, that's most likely what happened.

As soon as Dulce was abducted, she was walked to some location, her 3 year old brother pointed to the buildings next to a parking lot.

The van was most likely behind the buildings. Someone else must have been in the parking lot to see that the child was put in the back seat at 4:20PM.

This is a view from the playground to the location where Dulce was taken. The suspect was most likely parked behind the buildings, at the South parking lot.

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A is most likely where the abductor parked, B is where mom was helping her sister with homework, C is the playground. Children ran from B to A, 24 people thought it was normal. One child was left crying, the other vanished.

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[Steelslady]

They only found one ice cream ? Did the dulce have a ice cream ? It was taken with her ?

Seeing that she is a little older than her brother, perhaps she was finished with it before they got to the park. She might have had it in a cup and left it in the car. Or maybe she had less than her brother- some kids don't eat as much as others.

That is a great point to bring up, though.

 

[otto]

this was very helpful. so there was a surveillance camera? I wish we knew if they caught the abduction on camera. I wonder if parking in that location indicates a planned abduction, or just happenstance/convenience for b-ball courts?

ETA - is that a tennis court near where the parking area where the red van was probably parked?

All we know is that from collective witness statements, a description of the abductor and his vehicle is confirmed.

We don't know the year, make and model of the vehicle, no licence plate.
We know the van with tinted windows and sliding doors is red.
We know that the child was put in the back seat, we don't know if she was buckled in.
We know the abductor has a bad skin complexion, but we don't know his age.

We have not heard from the father of the missing child in 6 days, since her disappearance on Monday. He is reportedly a university student in Mexico studying to give his daughter a better quality of life. If he would at least step forward to clear up the question that he did not abduct her, that would be helpful.

 

[SJSleuth]

this was very helpful. so there was a surveillance camera? I wish we knew if they caught the abduction on camera. I wonder if parking in that location indicates a planned abduction, or just happenstance/convenience for b-ball courts?

ETA - is that a tennis court near where the parking area where the red van was probably parked?

The camera referred to on their map is just the direction of the camera that the picture of the storage building and swings was taken from. If there were any surveillance cameras around the park, nobody involved with this investigation has mentioned anything about them yet.

 

[HayLouise]

7 DAYS: One week today since Dulce Maria Alavez was abducted. We are live in Bridgeton this morning with the latest on the investigation. @6abc



Full story:

AMBER ALERT: New Jersey girl missing for 7 days as search continues

Jeannette Reyes on Twitter

 

[MsFacetious]

Dulce's father HAS been in contact, within 48 hours of her abduction if not sooner.

Missing 5-year-old Dulce Alavez’s mom says her boyfriend was detained by ICE

Dulce’s father remains in Mexico. Alavez Perez spoke to him by phone on Wednesday and he urged her to think back to anyone from her past who might be responsible for the disappearance. She said can’t think of anyone.

“He said we have to have faith in God that he’s going to bring her back home safe,” she said.

 

[FrostOwl]

We have not heard from the father of the missing child in 6 days, since her disappearance on Monday. He is reportedly a university student in Mexico studying to give his daughter a better quality of life. If he would at least step forward to clear up the question that he did not abduct her, that would be helpful.

Have it been mentioned how old the father is, is he the same age as D's mother, or older than her? If he's young, maybe his family don't want him, and his family, exposed to the media. Perhaps his side of the family didn't approve of the relationship with D's mother and he was sent away to stop him seeing her. I don't mean that they are in any way involved in D being missing, just that they don't want to have the whole world knowing about their son having a child with a young girl, maybe being ashamed of it.

 

[Rosiebones]

Here is part of the Amber Alert, stating Burt St. That is the street that runs right up to the buildings south of the playground, the buildings pointed out by Dulce's brother.

BBM

Event: Child Abduction Emergency
Sender Name: BRIDGETON POLICE DEPARTMENT
Issued: 2019-09-17T23:21:53-04:00
Expires: 2019-09-18T22:21:53-04:00
WEA Text: AMBER ALERTulce Alavez(age5)Suspect Hispanic male,red van/tint windows/sliding pass door
Description: Dulce Alvavez was reported missing from the Bridgeton City Park behind Bridgeton High School, on Burt Street,
at 4:51 PM, on 09/16/19. She was last seen wearing a yellow shirt (with Koala Bear on front), black and white
pants, white sandals.

But that is where the buildings he pointed to are, it doesn't say that is how the van was seen leaving.

 

[MsFacetious]

Have it been mentioned how old the father is, is he the same age as D's mother, or older than her? If he's young, maybe his family don't want him, and his family, exposed to the media. Perhaps his side of the family didn't approve of the relationship with D's mother and he was sent away to stop him seeing her. I don't mean that they are in any way involved in D being missing, just that they don't want to have the whole world knowing about their son having a child with a young girl, maybe being ashamed of it.

Because he is said to be attending school - the theory is that he is about the same age as the mom.

 

[Rosiebones]

Doesn't it seem strange to anyone else that LE has such a detailed description of the man, how and where he put DMA, the color of the van and the sliding door etc. but doesn't say WHERE the van was located and where it went?

 

[oceanstarryeyes]

Question for locals; Is there a gas station/ store close to the road that leads behind the buildings beside the playground and basketball court where the van was supposedly seen parked?

If a van was parked behind the buildings at the park the person driving the van may have stopped in at a local small store to pick up a cold six pack of beer. All stores probably have a video camera in the stores.
The van might have parked behind the buildings so he could drink his cold beers and kinda watch the basketball games.
Question for locals is there a small store close to the road that leads behind the buildings beside the playground and basketball court?
That would be the store to look at the Video for that afternoon.

 

[HayLouise]

MISSING ONE WEEK: Search for missing Dulce Maria Alavez enters day 8

MISSING ONE WEEK: Search for missing Dulce Maria Alavez enters day 8

Action News on 6abc on Twitter

 

[HayLouise]

Emotional vigil is held for Dulce Maria Alavez at the New Jersey park where she was snatched a week ago

Emotional vigil is held for five-year-old Dulce Maria Alavez | Daily Mail Online

Daily Mail US on Twitter

 

[oceanstarryeyes]

I would still like to know what was of interest to the two dozen men standing outside the two workers shacks across from Walmart’s that afternoon.
How far are the two shacks that are across from Walmarts from the road behind the park buildings?

 

[oceanstarryeyes]

Doesn't it seem strange to anyone else that LE has such a detailed description of the man, how and where he put DMA, the color of the van and the sliding door etc. but doesn't say WHERE the van was located and where it went?

If the brother is the witness that gave the detailed description, then the two children may have walked behind the buildings and was talking to the man before the man decided to leave and take Dulce with him. Both children would have had to be behind the buildings for the brother to see Dulce being buckled into the back seat. That seems like a lot of specific details for a three year old to remember and then to repeat.