NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #4

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Do we know yet how he got all the guns up to the room? The brother Eric, indicated, in the second video that he probably had a bellhop load all his bags up on a cart and paid to have them all delivered to the room. Or did SP carry them up, a couple of bags at a time?

And on another note, I'm so surprised that there are not cameras on every floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel. Maybe they are just in the casinos, the main areas and the elevators? I'm just so surprised that there wouldn't be surveillance on each hallway in the hotel. There are cameras everywhere now. My dry cleaner, in a safe area in the suburbs, just showed me last week he installed EIGHT cameras in a tiny space in a shopping center.
 
Here is another

Is 7 min after 4 guys blow up the door enter sound like right amount of time to blow up another door

I was surprised how long that would take??

I would assume they would have to clear that area -- suspect dead already

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CARIIS said:
My core issue with this is the flip totally changes the Sheriffs endless ( the night it happened) how HIS officers stopped this

Then he has to slide into the hotel sec guard is actually a hero

then the truth turns into valid questions why it took them so long to address the problem

I cant help but think that a guy that was grazed by bullet ( he is found standing up by an elevator ) could be so disorganized that
that he did not report

A 200 rounds shot at him

or

B 10 minutes of a battlefield in war

which came first -- either event is not , imo, did an eyewitness hear 1 or 2 shots

any human would recall if they were shot at 200 times OR he was shooting 500 people first !

everything changed after the first time the FBI guy talked and made it clear that the FBI will get to the truth

Obviously today is the truth

Conversly - the last 8 days have been .........

moo
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-Agree! The flips should be regulated point to point. No cover ups for anyone. That leaves no accountability to stand on. Honest mistakes-sure, but not “let’s piece this together for the good of all”.
 
I can't understand why he would lock the door to 32134 before he offed himself.
 
alsleuther said:
Do we know yet how he got all the guns up to the room? The brother Eric, indicated, in the second video that he probably had a bellhop load all his bags up on a cart and paid to have them all delivered to the room. Or did SP carry them up, a couple of bags at a time?

And on another note, I'm so surprised that there are not cameras on every floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel. Maybe they are just in the casinos, the main areas and the elevators? I'm just so surprised that there wouldn't be surveillance on each hallway in the hotel. There are cameras everywhere now. My dry cleaner, in a safe area in the suburbs, just showed me last week he installed EIGHT cameras in a tiny space in a shopping center.
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I am sorry the dry cleaner is hysterical and pathetic all in one package -- good lord

no problems in AMerica with violence !

linked earlier he bought up his arsenal a little at a time over days not all at once !

I wish his car valet guy interview did not get yanked his Linked in page stated he was a valet at the hotel
 
CARIIS said:
My core issue with this is the flip totally changes the Sheriffs endless ( the night it happened) how HIS officers stopped this

Then he has to slide into the hotel sec guard is actually a hero

then the truth turns into valid questions why it took them so long to address the problem

I cant help but think that a guy that was grazed by bullet ( he is found standing up by an elevator ) could be so disorganized that
that he did not report

A 200 rounds shot at him

or

B 10 minutes of a battlefield in war

which came first

everything changed after the first time the FBI guy talked and made it clear that the FBI will get to the truth

Obviously today is the truth

Conversly - the last 8 days have been .........

moo
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How much time had passed prior to fBI official involvement?
Am I correct that Sheriff declared dude had a flight plan, based on evidence found in room which may or may not have been gas mask(S) reported today.
Sqt people would have carried gas masks as part of their regular equipment.
They saw the black 'object' on the trolley and they may have seen the wires as well.
If they hadn't known whether they were going to be coping with a single disaffected angry dude with gun prior to their arrival, then had to assume it was a terrorist attack, immediately, which plan of action did they choose to play out first as a way to tackle the situation efficiently.
They had no way of knowing at that point whether there were one or a large crowd of people involved..
oh me, my kingdom for a look at the entry and exit wounds on that door?

OR did FBI contradict him so publicly, almost in the same tone used by Comey when he refused to make bay'ah to your man.. (I dont intend to upset anybody with that comment)
to me it had a similar flavour.. just me.
OR did they contradict him because they didnt want it known that it was a clear cut intended to lope off straight away after plan.
And why would this be something that should be kept out of public domain for operational reasons?
Whose particular grail would that serve, could that serve? what exactly are the possibilities here?
Speculating wildly here, sorry if its annoying but this whole situation is beyond ludicrous. all of it.
And, if the crime scene photos were authentic, how could they possibly have 'given' to Liveleak?
Whose grail did that particular action serve?
 
***LIABILITY****

SNIP from:
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/...dalay-bay-has-answer-questions-about-timeline

Judge Andrew Napolitano reacted to new revelations and a formal change in the timeline of events the night of the Las Vegas massacre.

Law enforcement said Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos was engaged by murderer Stephen Paddock six minutes before Paddock turned his gun on concertgoers.

Campos was shot during that time, while Paddock unloaded 200 rounds in the guard's direction.

"The news is not that he was shot," Napolitano said.

Napolitano said that, at that point, Mandalay Bay "knew of the existence and presence of automatic[-type] weapons six minutes before he started killing people."

Campos likely had a radio, and the casino is rife with security cameras in the hallways and on the gaming floor, Napolitano said.

He added that the casino and its parent company, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, should be prepared to be the "principal target" for lawsuits regarding failure to stop or inhibit Paddock's actions.
 
Gooddeeds said:
***LIABILITY****

SNIP from:
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/...dalay-bay-has-answer-questions-about-timeline

Judge Andrew Napolitano reacted to new revelations and a formal change in the timeline of events the night of the Las Vegas massacre.

Law enforcement said Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos was engaged by murderer Stephen Paddock six minutes before Paddock turned his gun on concertgoers.

Campos was shot during that time, while Paddock unloaded 200 rounds in the guard's direction.

"The news is not that he was shot," Napolitano said.

Napolitano said that, at that point, Mandalay Bay "knew of the existence and presence of automatic[-type] weapons six minutes before he started killing people."

Campos likely had a radio, and the casino is rife with security cameras in the hallways and on the gaming floor, Napolitano said.

He added that the casino and its parent company, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, should be prepared to be the "principal target" for lawsuits regarding failure to stop or inhibit Paddock's actions.
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I LMAO when he said Lombardo has been transparent.
 
Napolitano said that, at that point, Mandalay Bay "KNEW of the existence and presence of automatic[-type] weapons six minutes before he started killing people."

“KNEW” of the existence...
 
Gooddeeds said:
Napolitano said that, at that point, Mandalay Bay "KNEW of the existence and presence of automatic[-type] weapons six minutes before he started killing people."

“KNEW” of the existence...
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Weapons plural?
 
bears10 said:
I apologize. I can only find rags that say she was identified by LE. However multiple credible sources say LE was looking for a woman seen with SP .... I think NYP is considered credible here but if not, I added a Fox News article

https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.c...or-mystery-woman-seen-with-vegas-shooter/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/58367


Just kidding here’s an ABC article I was able to find saying she was identified and is a prostitute

https://www.google.com/amp/abc7.com...n-with-prostitute-days-before-attack/2500795/
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I don't think the reporters made the stories up. I just question how reliable the source is.
 
Gardenista said:
I can't understand why he would lock the door to 32134 before he offed himself.
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-Maybe on Friday we might know? “Kee-pa knock’n... butcha can’t come in”

They really must be in a Damage control frenzy. MB has big hurdles ahead. His friend leaked a word, that adds another dimension to his battle. I wonder if they have pin dolls of each other that they have been sticking relentlessly. SW better have the millions in security that he told ChrisW he invested in, because he may be hit with who knows what next.
 
 
I remember early on people stating that the shooter began shooting, paused briefly, and then began shooting again. I wonder if the campo encounter happened, which took him by surprise and interrupted his preparations (Drilling) (The infamous six minutes passes) Shooter decides that he has to act due to fear of police response.

Do you think that the first shots heard were the shooter attempting to blow up the jet fuel to create the explosion. He misses. So he then just decides to shoot into the crowd for as long as he thinks is safe and then killed himself?

Maybe the plan all along was to create the explosion, shoot from the window at those who had survived it, creating mass confusion of possible multiple attacks, and then take off in all of the confusion? When the explosion did not occur his plan changed, he just attacked from the window and then killed himself? When was he going to blow up his car?

This is all so nauseating.
 
Where are the videos of Paddock inside Mandalay? Until then, I am not buying anything that is being sold. It is simply not adding up.

My first impression. Paddock = Patsy. Who are the real perps?
 
Apparently he did try to blow up the tanks, according to the story on cnn. He didn't just randomly hit them. That guy seemed to dead set to kill as many people as he could, and nobody seems to have any idea why.
 
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