NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #4

[Isabelle]

If security guard notified hotel right away that he had been shot, did they convey this information to the police? From the narrative we are getting, police didn't know where the shooter was. Or maybe that will change too. Doesn't sound like the guard did anything wrong. But why why did police then claim security guard was shot after other people were shot? I don't think that story came from security guard, if he called his hotel right away and there is a record of that.

Do we know in the timeline when the first call to 911 was made by hotel staff. I know a guest in the hotel called, at least that is what I think I read.

 

[Spice]

Omg. I JUST CANNOT with the constant conspiracy theories. It's literally ruining this forum for me. It was never like this before.

:gaah:

What makes the shooter a "Patsy"? What's not "adding up"? The fact that LV released the timeline before they knew it was absolutely air tight? He could have shown more discipline imo. But that does not equate a purposeful conspiracy. Maybe the videos haven't been released to the public yet because this is an ongoing active investigation. We are not entitled to all of their evidence as the receive it. They have to protect the investigation.

 

[Isabelle]

Apparently he did try to blow up the tanks, according to the story on cnn. He didn't just randomly hit them. That guy seemed to dead set to kill as many people as he could, and nobody seems to have any idea why.

I think Paddock planned to start shooting as people were leaving the concert, filling the streets below, but the guard interfered and he had to get the job done earlier.

 

[Gooddeeds]

“When Campos made it up to the 32-floor, he was struck in the leg, but as he retreated he notified dispatch of his location SO THAT THEY could tell Metro officers.

"This was a remarkable effort by a brave and remarkable man," Undersheriff McMahill said. "I want to say today that I don't think we've done a good enough job recognizing him and his actions, and I apologize. I want to TAKE A MOMENT TO CLEAR THE RECORD and say he's an absolute hero."

 

[CARIIS]

Apparently he did try to blow up the tanks, according to the story on cnn. He didn't just randomly hit them. That guy seemed to dead set to kill as many people as he could, and nobody seems to have any idea why.

It is strange - linked last thread ! Even created a leak it would not explode!!

 

[Isabelle]

This is interesting

Las Vegas shooter’s Reno home broken into, FBI revisiting

The Las Vegas shooter’s Reno home was broken into over the weekend, causing another round of police activity in the normally quiet Del Webb neighborhood, police confirmed Tuesday.

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/crime...no-home-broken-into-fbi-revisiting/750725001/

Wonder if Paddock had CCTV security cameras. I would be surprised if he didn't.

 

[bears10]

Where are the videos of Paddock inside Mandalay? Until then, I am not buying anything that is being sold. It is simply not adding up.

My first impression. Paddock = Patsy. Who are the real perps?

Really?? Patsy???

There are likely hundreds of security cameras in the casino. I am sure LE is combing thru all of the security footage. FWIW they don’t owe the public access to over a hundred hours of video from hundreds of cameras. Not to mention the privacy of other guests is an issue as well

 

[Gooddeeds]

Do we know in the timeline when the first call to 911 was made by hotel staff. I know a guest in the hotel called, at least that is what I think I read.

-They are regrouping on a new timeline to give us by Friday...first one didn’t make the cut.

 

[CARIIS]

Omg. I JUST CANNOT with the constant conspiracy theories. It's literally ruining this forum for me. It was never like this before.

:gaah:

What makes the shooter a "Patsy"? What's not "adding up"? The fact that LV released the timeline before they knew it was absolutely air tight? He could have shown more discipline imo. But that does not equate a purposeful conspiracy. Maybe the videos haven't been released to the public yet because this is an ongoing active investigation. We are not entitled to all of their evidence as the receive it. They have to protect the investigation.

I dont think anyone is saying any conspiracy theories.

If this occurred 24 hours later it would not be making global headlines on MSM!

We IMO are trying to understand how a basic simple fact could be wrong for over a week !!!

It is unique!

 

[bears10]

Omg. I JUST CANNOT with the constant conspiracy theories. It's literally ruining this forum for me. It was never like this before.

:gaah:

What makes the shooter a "Patsy"? What's not "adding up"? The fact that LV released the timeline before they knew it was absolutely air tight? He could have shown more discipline imo. But that does not equate a purposeful conspiracy. Maybe the videos haven't been released to the public yet because this is an ongoing active investigation. We are not entitled to all of their evidence as the receive it. They have to protect the investigation.

I can’t. It’s frankly absurd at this point. I feel like if people want to entertain conspiracy theories they should probably go elsewhere since WS doesn’t allow conspiracies to be discussed. If you google, there is no shortage of conspiracy websites. This is not one of them.

ETA the constant thinly veiled accusations and conspiracies are ruining it here for me too. Recently I’ve been on a couple threads with some conspiracies but not nearly as bad as this one. I am not into conspiracies at all and it’s getting hard to participate in threads without running into them

 

[bears10]

I dont think anyone is saying any conspiracy theories.

If this occurred 24 hours later it would not be making global headlines on MSM!

We IMO are trying to understand how a basic simple fact could be wrong for over a week !!!

It is unique!

Lol...

 

[Spice]

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-Yes it is.

“When Campos made it up to the 32-floor, he was struck in the leg, but as he retreated he notified dispatch of his location SO THAT THEY could tell Metro officers.

"This was a remarkable effort by a brave and remarkable man," Undersheriff McMahill said. "I want to say today that I don't think we've done a good enough job recognizing him and his actions, and I apologize. I want to TAKE A MOMENT TO CLEAR THE RECORD and say he's an absolute hero."

I am not reading between the lines. I don't believe its a conspiracy . Sorry. Where is the proof that you have that this is a purposeful conspiracy?

 

[CoolJ]

Omg. I JUST CANNOT with the constant conspiracy theories. It's literally ruining this forum for me. It was never like this before.

:gaah:

What makes the shooter a "Patsy"? The fact that LV released the timeline before he knew it was absolutely air tight? He could have shown more discipline imo. But that does not equate a purposeful conspiracy.

Paddock being a patsy is in no way shape or form a "conspiracy theory". It is merely a possibility.
Authorities rarely tell the truth in open investigations. Why would they in an investigation of this magnitude.
After watching numerous videos, listening to audio of dispatch, and eye witness reports, I just cannot rule out "multiple shooters". In fact, that appears to be the most likely scenario.

I'm sorry if this offends you. I am only trying to pass along what I consider to be a very viable (if not, likely) theory.

 

[Ambitioned]

Holy tarnations! I get home from work and you lot are busy. Ten plus pages already.

[video=youtube;OVDYMnuyUXY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVDYMnuyUXY[/video]
Interesting interview that shows a little bit of a different picture...

Wow! So other pictures of him DO exist! Thanks for sharing.

It will be interesting to see if there is a change in the lead of the FBI involvement.
Like a new face on the podium this Friday

speculating only

Yes! Friday will be good.

Slate defending police response? That's about as bizarre as the event itself.

:lol: :lol:

I have no idea what I am saying other than stuff does not add up !!

I want that on a tee.

-They are regrouping on a new timeline to give us by Friday...first one didn’t make the cut.

Sure does seem so.

 

[CARIIS]

Really?? Patsy???

There are likely hundreds of security cameras in the casino. I am sure LE is combing thru all of the security footage. FWIW they don’t owe the public access to over a hundred hours of video from hundreds of cameras. Not to mention the privacy of other guests is an issue as well

Linked recently - the have reported they have on CCTV of 200 instances of him - but he never spoke to a human being according to their statement.

 

[CARIIS]

Hi you !

Its been rolling along -- amazing and bewildering developments today

Holy tarnations! I get home from work and you lot are busy. Ten plus pages already.



Wow! So other pictures of him DO exist! Thanks for sharing.



Yes! Friday will be good.



:lol: :lol:



I want that on a tee.



Sure does seem so.

 

[bears10]

Linked recently - the have reported they have on CCTV of 200 instances of him - but he never spoke to a human being according to their statement.

Yes I saw the previous link you posted. Not sure how it relates to the comment you quoted of mine in the context I posted it.

 

[Gardenista]

Omg. I JUST CANNOT with the constant conspiracy theories. It's literally ruining this forum for me. It was never like this before.

:gaah:

What makes the shooter a "Patsy"? What's not "adding up"? The fact that LV released the timeline before they knew it was absolutely air tight? He could have shown more discipline imo. But that does not equate a purposeful conspiracy. Maybe the videos haven't been released to the public yet because this is an ongoing active investigation. We are not entitled to all of their evidence as the receive it. They have to protect the investigation.

Nothing wrong with not believing what is said. Just use ignore if it bothers you so much.

 

[bears10]

Nothing wrong with not believing what is said. Just use ignore if it bothers you so much.

It’s also a matter of conspiracy theories not being allowed here. That’s why I’m here, because I don’t want to entertain the conspiracies. There are other websites for that for those who are interested and believe this is a false flag, SP is a patsy, LE is covering for someone etc

 

[Gardenista]

It’s also a matter of conspiracy theories not being allowed here. That’s why I’m here, because I don’t want to entertain the conspiracies. There are other websites for that for those who are interested and believe this is a false flag, SP is a patsy, LE is covering for someone etc

Not believing what we are told is NOT a conspiracy theory. GMAB