NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #7

[KaaBoom]

Why should he give any interviews? He was a person doing his job when cast into a limelight he never chose.

I cannot even imagine the PTSD he must have. Hopefully he is not aware of a lot of the horrible things said about him.

I hope he gets a huge pile of money and can move and live somewhere else in peace

Because he wanted to give interviews but his employer MGM stopped it, and instead booked him on an entertainment show that they have connections to. Shouldn't he be free to give interviews if he want's to?

 

[Deleted member 158085]

The problem is that he did want to, but his employers stopped him. My issue is not with his right to refuse to do an interview, but rather with an appearance on an entertainment show being passed off as an interview. I also think it's unfortunate that his employer coerced him to cancel five real interviews that he clearly wanted to do, and instead booked him on an entertainment show that they own.

Would you also characterize the interviews with the Charlottesville victims, mother of the dead Charlottesville victim, and the Pulse victims as "appearance on an entertainment show"?

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[Jax49]

Because he wanted to give interviews but his employer MGM stopped it, and instead booked him on an entertainment show that they own. Shouldn't he be free to give interviews if he want's to?

Source please. TIA

 

[KaaBoom]

Ellen is not just a comedy and entertainment show. She also had victims/witnesses from Charlottesville on not long ago. Ellen has human interest stories from time to time that are tied to current events.

http://wtvr.com/2017/09/04/ellen-se...ville-couple-marcus-martin-and-marissa-blair/

The Ellen DeGeneres Show (often shortened to Ellen) is an American television comedy talk show hosted by comedienne/actress Ellen DeGeneres.

The Ellen DeGeneres Show - Wikipedia

Do you really think it is appropriate for a "comedienne" to be doing what is supposed to be a serious news interview?

 

[KaaBoom]

Not sure where he'd get that pile of money?

I hope that MGM is paying him a pile of money to keep his mouth shut, and not just bullying him into it.

 

[kaen]

He didn't vanish. He went to a clinic. No where does it say that MGM canceled the interviews. I appears that Hickey, the union president, announced the canceled interviews based on Campos' cancelling. I don't think that Campos seeking medical treatment was nefarious but rather a result of a medical emergency. Speculating on my part would be that he had a panic attack.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-jesus-campos-vegas-20171016-story.html

Hickey said he was with Campos on Thursday, coordinating a series of interviews that the guard was scheduled to give about the attack. They included appearances on the Sean Hannity show on Fox, as well as news shows on CNN, CBS, ABC and NBC. Campos was staying in a suite in a Las Vegas hotel, Hickey said.

Hickey said he was attending a meeting with MGM representatives in one room of the suite as Campos waited with a security guard — hired by MGM — and another union member in the living room.

When the meeting ended about 2 p.m., Hickey said Campos was no longer in the room.

"When I got in touch with the other union member, I was told Campos was taken to the Quick Care" health clinic, Hickey said. He didn't hear from the guard afterward and announced to a scrum of reporters that night that Campos had canceled interviews.

 

[KaaBoom]

He told what happened. It was really pretty straightforward. It doesn't matter who was sitting in the interviewer's chair. He talked about finding the door screwed shut, getting shot, telling the woman and the engineer to get back, calling the situation in, and hearing sounds. What other questions would anyone want answered? The man experienced a small slice of what happened that night. I don't think a hard hitting interviewer was going to get him to remember or connect some dots he doesn't have. Mr. Campos has been interviewed by LE and needs to answer to no one about his actions except LE (and maybe not even them).

The idea of no restrictions implies that he might not be telling the truth. IMHO, we have no evidence of that and I imagine LE doesn't either as he has not been named as a person of interest or a suspect.

I didn't watch it, but the reviews I read, said the questions were weak.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

The Ellen DeGeneres Show - Wikipedia

Do you really think it is appropriate for a "comedienne" to be doing what is supposed to be a serious news interview?

So do you believe, then, that it was inappropriate for the Pulse and Charlottesville victims to appear on her show as well?

Also, can you not see that just as Oprah's show evolved over the years, so is Ellen's? If you look at the Pulse and Charlottesville interviews, surely you can see that.

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[kaen]

I didn't watch it, but the reviews I read, said the questions were weak.

All she did was to ask him to tell his story. He did. Maybe that is why he cancelled the other interviews because it was too much. What is a weak question? Does it imply that people were hoping that he would be probed and asked to delineate every little detail? If so, during the negotiations, he might just have had a freak out that required medical treatment.

I mean no disrespect but if you have not watched the interview, I am not sure why you would say it is not satisfactory as a reflection of what this man experienced. If your thinking is that he was precluded or forced to cancel, I would suggest you watch the interview, he was clearly barely able to handle the few minutes he was on Ellen. I am not sure that he could have withstood five or six interviews with differing outlets. He seemed fragile and his coworker continued to pat him on the back and shoulder as if to reassure him that things were okay. He didn't look well or like a man who was being stifled by his employer.

 

[KaaBoom]

Are you implying that he has something he wants to say but is being restricted from doing so? Do you think that MGM is trying to hide something?

Absolutely, why do you think he suddenly disappeared just minutes before he was scheduled to give a series of real interviews? Then just as suddenly re-appeared to go on a comedy talk show, with connections to MGM. You don't think that is at all suspicious?

MGM is going to get their asses sued, and they don't want him talking.

 

[KaaBoom]

Source please. TIA

Vegas security guard was pressured to give interview to Ellen _ New York Post/

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Vegas security guard was pressured to give interview to Ellen _ New York Post/

That source does not say anywhere that he "wanted" to do any the interviews. Further, I fail to see how a "TV insider" would have knowledge of Campos' desire to do the interviews.

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[kaen]

Absolutely, why do you think he suddenly disappeared just minutes before he was scheduled to give a series of real interviews? Then just as suddenly re-appeared to go on a comedy talk show, with connections to MGM. You don't think that is at all suspicious?

MGM is going to get their asses sued, and they don't want him talking.

The LA times in the article I posted above said he went to a health clinic. He had been in a room with a union rep and someone from MGM and left during the negotiations. I am not sure what the negotiations looked like but I would assume they were fine tuning the questions. You might want to see his going to a clinic as his employers pressuring him but....it was reported that he needed to seek medical care.

His interviews will not be the stuff that harms MGM in court. If anything, it will be the LE interviews and the assessments of their safety/security plans when it comes to any liability lawsuit. Plenty of corporations have people doing interviews and are later sued, the statements in an interview might be fodder for depositions but are not legal statements. MGM could surely have coached him so he was not putting their corporation at risk in any interview he did. They have lots of lawyers who do that for them in an ongoing basis.

 

[Spice]

Appearing on a comedy-entertainment talk show that has corporate connections to his employer, hardly qualifies as giving an interview. IMHO. I think he needs to appear on a major news interview show with no restrictions on the questions, before I will accept that he has given an interview.

Really?

I. Just. Don't . Get. It.

He chose Ellen, he absolutely gave an interview, just because she didn't pick him apart like a vulture does not mean it was not an interview. Just because he didn't choose Anderson Cooper, Hannity, (who is not a journalist either by the way) or Barbara Walters, does not mean he did not give an interview. He told his story. He shared it with the public. I really do not understand what the problem is that some have with this.

The man just survived a horrific trauma. The man just survived a horrific trauma . The man just survived and a horrific trauma. and has been thrust into the spotlight, disparaged by many, and hounded.

I will add again :

The man just survived a horrific trauma. The man just survived a horrific trauma . The man just survived and a horrific trauma. and has been thrust into the spotlight, disparaged by many, and hounded.

His has been traumatized. He has the right to control who he speaks to, how he shares his story . It is his right to choose his interviewer.
He chose Ellen , she is a compassionate, ethical, human and a demonstrated advocate for victims and people in general.

He is a victim and he owes the public nothing.

 

[KaaBoom]

All she did was to ask him to tell his story. He did. Maybe that is why he cancelled the other interviews because it was too much. What is a weak question? Does it imply that people were hoping that he would be probed and asked to delineate every little detail? If so, during the negotiations, he might just have had a freak out that required medical treatment.

I mean no disrespect but if you have not watched the interview, I am not sure why you would say it is not satisfactory as a reflection of what this man experienced. If your thinking is that he was precluded or forced to cancel, I would suggest you watch the interview, he was clearly barely able to handle the few minutes he was on Ellen. I am not sure that he could have withstood five or six interviews with differing outlets. He seemed fragile and his coworker continued to pat him on the back and shoulder as if to reassure him that things were okay. He didn't look well or like a man who was being stifled by his employer.

I could probably find a video of the interview online if I wanted to, but I'm not really interested in hearing him talk about his favorite football team.

Since Wednesday’s show, DeGeneres has been attacked for failing to ask Campos any incisive questions about the timeline of the shooting.
Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo has given three different versions of the events since the October 1 massacre.
Instead of asking Campos and fellow hotel worker Steven Schuck about how the deadly event unfolded, DeGeneres talked instead about their favorite pro football teams and gave a shout-out to a company that had promised Campos a season ticket to the Raiders when the team moves to Las Vegas in 2019 or 2020.

Las Vegas hotel insisted Jesus Campos only appear on Ellen _ Daily Mail Online

 

[kaen]

from the NY Post article and bolded by me: David Hickey, president of the Michigan-based International Union, Security Police and Fire Professionals of America, would not confirm that MGM was behind the decision, but said the company influenced the guard.

“I was in a meeting with MGM’s upper management and they were definitely concerned about how tough someone like (Fox News’ Sean) Hannity would be on him and they voiced their opinions,” Hickey said.

“Everyone knew he wasn’t to talk about security protocols, staffing or training or give out names of employees,” he told the outlet, adding that the company pressured Campos not to reveal too much.

“I thought they were being negative, telling him that someone was going to be tough and how they were worried about his health — it wasn’t the thing he needed to hear four hours before the interviews were going to begin,” he said.~~~

If a man is fragile, putting him in an environment where people could be asking him questions that go beyond what is agreed upon AND in more than one sitting, MGM would be irresponsible to encourage him to do the interviews. There were lots of boundaries set that could have been adhered to. He was not responsible to discuss the timeline or other "business interest" matters. However, he couldn't handle it. And, if you look at his pictures from the Ellen show, he is fragile.

Not only does MGM have a dog in the race, the union does as well. It is good PR for the union to have him on lots of shows speaking well for the union. The union rep went with him to get medical care.

As for going on Ellen and being forced, the article states unnamed sources that had told the DailyMail--incidently the DM is not known for accuracy but rather a paper which has gotten lots wrong in the name of sensationalism--- doesn't hold lots of weight in most circumstances. JMHO.

 

[KaaBoom]

Mandalay Bay shooting hero Jesus Campos was pressured into giving his only interview to Ellen DeGeneres because the giant company that owns the Las Vegas casino feared he would spill the beans about the shooting timeline if he was grilled by real journalists, DailyMail.com has learned exclusively.

MGM is worried that families of the 58 people murdered as well as many of the 546 injured in the Mandalay Bay massacre will launch lawsuits potentially worth billions of dollars against the company, sources tell DailyMail.com.

And they thought Campos might not keep his story straight under the pressure of the TV lights and tough questioning.

That is why Campos, 25, appeared on a daytime chat show hosted by a fast-talking, dancing comedienne, rather than take questions from TV hardhitters such as Fox News’ Sean Hannity, NBC News or ABC News.

‘MGM was behind the decision to call off all the interviews and did a deal with Ellen, knowing she would not play hardball on the timeline as long as she had the exclusive,’ a TV insider told DailyMail.com.

Las Vegas hotel insisted Jesus Campos only appear on Ellen _ Daily Mail Online

 

[kaen]

I could probably find a video of the interview online if I wanted to, but I'm not really interested in hearing him talk about his favorite football team.



Las Vegas hotel insisted Jesus Campos only appear on Ellen _ Daily Mail Online

You see that is a problem. He didn't talk about his favorite team except to acknowledge what Ellen had asked. He was pretty silent and fragile.

And, the Daily Mail cites an unnamed source which, coincidentally, is where the NY Post culled the statement that Campos was forced to go on Ellen.

If you are unwilling to watch the video which is widely available, I am not sure why you continue to disparage it. The man is clearly in pain. I think the most important interviews are the ones he does with LE.

from the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...llen-degeneres-show/?utm_term=.83c003cfa8a0):
"Campos appeared nervous as he recounted the sequence of events that led him to Paddock’s room. At one point, when the show cut to a commercial break, DeGeneres handed Campos tissues that he brought to his face.

Campos was joined on the show by Stephen Schuck, a building engineer who was on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay with him during the shooting. Campos spoke softly, avoided looking at the studio audience, and leaned forward in his seat as Schuck patted him on the back during some of his responses.........

Both men said they were still rattled by the experience. “I’m doing better each day,” Campos said, “just healing mentally and physically.....

He thanked law enforcement officers and other first responders, and the community as a whole, for coming together “to help that night even in the darkest hour."

 

[jjenny]

Daily mail is a tabloid that isn't known for its accuracy.

 

[jjenny]

The Ellen DeGeneres Show - Wikipedia

Do you really think it is appropriate for a "comedienne" to be doing what is supposed to be a serious news interview?

If I were ever asked to do an interview, I'd pick Ellen over Hannity every single time.