NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #9

[CARIIS]

Everybody knows why. The emails. Does it not clearly say “try an ar before you buy, we have a huge selection, located in las vegas area”

How do others interpret that? That doesn’t point towards him selling firearms?

Did it not say in one of the warrants “buying and selling” firearms?

Why did he have numerous cell phones including burner phones?

Nobody is saying it is proof positive. Of course not. But that’s what the email evidence points too. How can it not?

Cool !

I just read this after referring to the emails also

TY we agree again!!

Dont know how much clearer it can be to the media -- its not even that complicated!!

I also dont understand how the notion of him being a narc does not ring as a real possibility.

It explains a lot of the crazy stuff after it happened.

Suicidal people don't go through all these things to avoid getting caught kill yourself or death by cop

Undercover people do set up cameras for court and prosecution later

Throw in his father flipped and avoided going to jail and was free for a decade!

Stuff falling off trees!!



I say we focus on the stuff that doesn’t make sense, such as why was FIT even put in charge of this investigation?

That gets even more interesting in that when that came out they moved her off of it !! More data there as well,

Assigning a dept that is internal affairs to the biggest mass shooting in history is akin to going to a dentist for a heart transplant!

None of this is new. we went through it all before in the early threads.
all that is relatively new are the warrants and the report..
Are they inaccurate, if so where and why?

Reports answer questions!

This is in response to CARIIS, post. #831. My iPAD is stubborn on what it will select to copy.

‘I think he is referring to the bogus report released in the last week or so. The report is so haphazard - it like pick from column A or B (chinese menu)

“There is not one subject that he did from his check out forward. It was selected tid bits all along”.

Thanks for this statement! As I read the posts on Doug Poppa’s page, it was like reading a rough draft with pieces of this and that thrown in where it did not belong. No organization at all!

I had read the original report when it came out and thought it was so poorly written, how had it been approved for publication! However, seeing it in the little snippets that Doug had written it in, I was truly scratching my head, rereading a snippet again to realize there was no continuity in the writing. Do you think it was done this way purposely to confuse the reader? That was my reasoning so we could not keep track of all the errors in the report. If this is a clue to the way the LVPD thinks, acts, and is run, we can now understand why nothing about this massacre is making sense in reporting it!

My opinions only.

I think it was cause this was just another lie!! Political PR BS. I think they were caught by surprise by the 400 page document dump a couple of days earlier.

It was all focused on email ( the dumps) Houston we have a problem

there is an email where "

he is sharing he has tons of machine guns for sale

he has them in in LV

as an added bonus he has plenty of bump stocks avail

shop today

really don't need much more!!

It is almost like the game CLUE! i killed Col Mustard , in the dining room . with a knife~~

ha !

and the media is still scratching its head that some dude with machine guns all over his room , his vehicle , really is not dealing arms

IMO that is only take away from the big document dump

cant really get any more specific

Who

What

When

Where

nicely articulated on HIS email account!

The 100 000 bucks to the crime laden Philippines was not IMO a nice goodbye -- it was business!!

Why would a "suicidal "| person make payments as opposed to one good bye payment.?

That's businesses!!! or blackmail == not a I love you honey today for 14K then for 50K a couple of days later then for whatever a couple of days later!

 

[MzOpinion8d]

So who gets to decide what doesn’t add up? Everything you stated is what some of us have been trying to do.

Ok let’s try this for not adding up... straight out of the FIT report: It says Paddock requested room 235 on any floor.... but the report says the shooting was “meticulously planned”

So why did the lone shooter with a meticulous plan not even care what floor he was on? How was he supposed to achieve his plan from the 3rd floor on the other side of the building?

I am not certain of this, but I believe the "235" room on any floor would have only been in that wing of the building.

I don't know what level the rooms start on there, but the lowest floor with that room number may be several stories up. If so, he would have had the access to the crowd he was looking for.

 

[watergirl62]

I am not certain of this, but I believe the "235" room on any floor would have only been in that wing of the building.

I don't know what level the rooms start on there, but the lowest floor with that room number may be several stories up. If so, he would have had the access to the crowd he was looking for.

I suspect all the room 135s are the tip of the same wing (north) as are the 235s. Which I think is what you said?

So which wing did he originally request? I'm guessing not the SW, so maybe the SE. Which would mean the wings are numbered CW. Guessing... Will check hotel plans later.

 

[kdg411]

I suspect all the room 135s are the tip of the same wing (north) as are the 235s. Which I think is what you said?

So which wing did he originally request? I'm guessing not the SW, so maybe the SE. Which would mean the wings are numbered CW. Guessing... Will check hotel plans later.

Page 7 FIT
On or around September 9th Paddock made his room reservation for a Vista Suite ending in 235 but not a specific floor. On September 20th Paddock was internally assigned to room 33-235. On September 21st Paddock was internally changed to room 32-235. On September 24th Paddock was assigned to room 32-135.

 

[kittythehare]

Cool !

I just read this after referring to the emails also

TY we agree again!!

Dont know how much clearer it can be to the media -- its not even that complicated!!

I also dont understand how the notion of him being a narc does not ring as a real possibility.

It explains a lot of the crazy stuff after it happened.

Suicidal people don't go through all these things to avoid getting caught kill yourself or death by cop

Undercover people do set up cameras for court and prosecution later

Throw in his father flipped and avoided going to jail and was free for a decade!

Stuff falling off trees!!



I say we focus on the stuff that doesn’t make sense, such as why was FIT even put in charge of this investigation?

That gets even more interesting in that when that came out they moved her off of it !! More data there as well,

Assigning a dept that is internal affairs to the biggest mass shooting in history is akin to going to a dentist for a heart transplant!

None of this is new. we went through it all before in the early threads.
all that is relatively new are the warrants and the report..
Are they inaccurate, if so where and why?

Reports answer questions!




I think it was cause this was just another lie!! Political PR BS. I think they were caught by surprise by the 400 page document dump a couple of days earlier.

It was all focused on email ( the dumps) Houston we have a problem

there is an email where "

he is sharing he has tons of machine guns for sale

he has them in in LV

as an added bonus he has plenty of bump stocks avail

shop today

really don't need much more!!

It is almost like the game CLUE! i killed Col Mustard , in the dining room . with a knife~~

ha !

and the media is still scratching its head that some dude with machine guns all over his room , his vehicle , really is not dealing arms

IMO that is only take away from the big document dump

cant really get any more specific

Who

What

When

Where

nicely articulated on HIS email account!

The 100 000 bucks to the crime laden Philippines was not IMO a nice goodbye -- it was business!!

Why would a "suicidal "| person make payments as opposed to one good bye payment.?

That's businesses!!! or blackmail == not a I love you honey today for 14K then for 50K a couple of days later then for whatever a couple of days later!

Not by the longest stretch of the scrappy drafts can it be taken that he is sharing he has thousands of anything for sale..
In fact they strike me as a blurb he was absent mindedly copying from an ad he was reading and saving by sending to himself.
He was not selling himself guns to the best of my knowledge..
The media have not run a story on his gun running because there is no evidence at all that he was selling anything..
A dealer would have held thousands of weapons, not a single collection and a buyer would as easily buy them all legally and an overseas buyer would have required hundreds of thousands and there is no evidence that one existed at this point in time.

 

[watergirl62]

Page 7 FIT
On or around September 9th Paddock made his room reservation for a Vista Suite ending in 235 but not a specific floor. On September 20th Paddock was internally assigned to room 33-235. On September 21st Paddock was internally changed to room 32-235. On September 24th Paddock was assigned to room 32-135.

I think Vista suites are located on floors 30-39. (Wiki says floors 40 and up are penthouses).

https://www.suiteness.com/suites/un...as/mandalay-bay-resort-and-casino/vista-suite

Scroll down to pics below the purple columns where it says 30th floor and up.

The implications of not specifying floor 30 through 39 but requesting a specific wing are what again?

 

[CoolJ]

The only possible explanation is that pic #2 is not real clear, nor is it close up enough to see the holes? This is a big ‘possible’.

Look at pic #9. In the far right top corner you can see that same door.

When i zoom in on pic#2 i see a clean door. It is quite clear and not even pixelated. Even if it were unclear I am sure you would be able to see the door riddled with bullet holes. But alas, the door is not riddled with bullet holes and it is in one piece. Then for some reason it is taken to another room and voila! It is now riddled with bullet holes and broken in half in pic #16

It isn't just my imagination. This is absolutely crazy that people, including media, can look at these pictures and just ignore the obvious. This is Bizarro world stuff!

Please note, I am not drawing any conclusion from this. I am not putting forth any theories. I am honestly just looking for an explanation so i can move on. But I can't get past these obvious inconsistencies.

 

[Sillybilly]

Some posts have been removed.

Reminders have previously been posted. Laura Loomer links and conspiracy theories are not allowed.

 

[watergirl62]

When i zoom in on pic#2 i see a clean door. It is quite clear and not even pixelated. Even if it were unclear I am sure you would be able to see the door riddled with bullet holes. But alas, the door is not riddled with bullet holes and it is in one piece. Then for some reason it is taken to another room and voila! It is now riddled with bullet holes and broken in half in pic #16

It isn't just my imagination. This is absolutely crazy that people, including media, can look at these pictures and just ignore the obvious. This is Bizarro world stuff!

Please note, I am not drawing any conclusion from this. I am not putting forth any theories. I am honestly just looking for an explanation so i can move on. But I can't get past these obvious inconsistencies.

That's a good question, and I landed in the same place as Gooddeeds. I counted doors, reviewed all doors, bullets with doors, looked at the master bedroom doors, which are hanging unscathed, and here we are back at the not-quite-clear photos again (same as the SP photos). Dunno.

As far as the door being moved to the master bedroom area, I imagine they had to move the door out or the main entrance to the suite so that the person who processed the door didn't have to work in the main entry way, and people coming in and out didn't have to go around them and the door.

 

[CoolJ]

That's a good question, and I landed in the same place as Gooddeeds. I counted doors, reviewed all doors, bullets with doors, looked at the master bedroom doors, which are hanging unscathed, and here we are back at the not-quite-clear photos again (same as the SP photos). Dunno.

As far as the door being moved to the master bedroom area, I imagine they had to move the door out or the main entrance to the suite so that the person who processed the door didn't have to work in the main entry way, and people coming in and out didn't have to go around them and the door.

I am looking at the photo #2 right now in front of me. It is very clear when i blow it up. There are no bullet holes. Are we all looking at the same picture? Are you able to blow it up? There are no bullet holes in the door in that picture.

Somebody tell me I am right or going crazy. One or the other. Cause this doesn't make any sense. Anybody i show these pictures to in real life agrees there are obviously no bullet holes in that door when compared to pic #16.

 

[CoolJ]

And then we have this picture. Remember this one? Crime scene tape is up. Bullet holes are there, but the door is in one piece again?

 

[Gooddeeds]

I am looking at the photo #2 right now in front of me. It is very clear when i blow it up. There are no bullet holes. Are we all looking at the same picture? Are you able to blow it up? There are no bullet holes in the door in that picture.

Somebody tell me I am right or going crazy. One or the other. Cause this doesn't make any sense. Anybody i show these pictures to in real life agrees there are obviously no bullet holes in that door when compared to pic #16.

CoolJ I am seeing the same from my screen too. Mine is not crystal clear but I thought it might be that I am using my iPad.

Can everyone chime in on this? It remains to be on my list of not adding up.

The fact that it appears differently, combined with the initial reported ‘200 rounds’ illicits valid questioning.

 

[neesaki]

Where are the bullet holes in the door in picture 2 of the FIT report?

Compare to picture 16.

Anybody explain this one to me ?

I zoomed in on it and don’t see anything that resembles bullet holes in pic 2 of the door. Nothing at all in comparison to pic 16. I don’t have an explanation. Has anyone else come up with one?

 

[CoolJ]

CoolJ I am seeing the same from my screen too. Mine is not crystal clear but I thought it might be that I am using my iPad.

Can everyone chime in on this? It remains to be on my list of not adding up.

The fact that it appears differently, combined with the initial reported ‘200 rounds’ illicits valid questioning.

IMO, there are only 2 possible explanations
1) Picture 2 was photoshopped to take out the bullet holes in the door
2) The holes in the door (whether by bullet or drill) were made after Picture 2 was taken

But I am always open to other explanations if they make logical sense.

 

[Gooddeeds]

And then we have this picture. Remember this one? Crime scene tape is up. Bullet holes are there, but the door is in one piece again?

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To me this picture is a joke. It looks staged for a kids game or Halloween booby trap.

We spent weeks on this because of the way the door was laying horizontally and trying to figure out where the other half of it was.

 

[Gooddeeds]

IMO, there are only 2 possible explanations
1) Picture 2 was photoshopped to take out the bullet holes in the door
2) The holes in the door (whether by bullet or drill) were made after Picture 2 was taken

But I am always open to other explanations if they make logical sense.

Either are viable. What would number 1 mean (to them-their story line)?

 

[watergirl62]

I am looking at the photo #2 right now in front of me. It is very clear when i blow it up. There are no bullet holes. Are we all looking at the same picture? Are you able to blow it up? There are no bullet holes in the door in that picture.

Somebody tell me I am right or going crazy. One or the other. Cause this doesn't make any sense. Anybody i show these pictures to in real life agrees there are obviously no bullet holes in that door when compared to pic #16.

I was using my phone. I can try later on a PC.

 

[Gooddeeds]

I zoomed in on it and don’t see anything that resembles bullet holes in pic 2 of the door. Nothing at all in comparison to pic 16. I don’t have an explanation. Has anyone else come up with one?

Do we know what weapon of choice LE used to fire the rounds in the door? Are the bullet holes congruent with what they use?

 

[CoolJ]

Either are viable. What would number 1 mean (to them-their story line)?

Distraction? They want us looking over here so that we aren't looking over there type of thing?

Lombardo is a practical joker and wanted to throw the "keyboard warriors" off?

I really don't know. I don't like to speculate. I ask questions. I get enough grief over the questions I ask without even speculating.

 

[CoolJ]

Do we know what weapon of choice LE used to fire the rounds in the door? Are the bullet holes congruent with what they use?

Well these are supposed to be the bullet holes Paddock fired through the door towards Jesus Campos.
First they said it was 200 bullets.
Now they are saying 30 something bullets.