NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #9

[Gooddeeds]

Some posts have been removed.

Reminders have previously been posted. Laura Loomer links and conspiracy theories are not allowed.

Sillybilly I could be mistaken but I think the Loomer one and some YT videos came through Doug Poppas articles. Please let us know if we can reference the ones that are directly reported from him-his articles and interviews.

Thank you!

 

[canadiangirl]

I am looking at the photo #2 right now in front of me. It is very clear when i blow it up. There are no bullet holes. Are we all looking at the same picture? Are you able to blow it up? There are no bullet holes in the door in that picture.

Somebody tell me I am right or going crazy. One or the other. Cause this doesn't make any sense. Anybody i show these pictures to in real life agrees there are obviously no bullet holes in that door when compared to pic #16.

I would say you're right and interesting the different doors with the crime tape up.
Wtf is going on?

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[Gooddeeds]

Well these are supposed to be the bullet holes Paddock fired through the door towards Jesus Campos.
First they said it was 200 bullets.
Now they are saying 30 something bullets.

Sorry, my mistake on confusing Paddocks and LE rounds.

 

[canadiangirl]

To me this picture is a joke. It looks staged for a kids game or Halloween booby trap.

We spent weeks on this because of the way the door was laying horizontally and trying to figure out where the other half of it was.

Well it does look absolutely excessive lol
And not at all the same as the report pics IMO

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[canadiangirl]

I was using my phone. I can try later on a PC.

Ive done phone, tablet, laptop and desktop. My husband is a tech guy with Photoshop skills so he has amazing monitors. (yes plural) There are no bullet holes there that we can see IMO

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[Sillybilly]

Post #5 upthread, Tricia had this to say about conspiracy theories:

We will allow the discussion (in this case only) to explore reasons why the all the departments involved seem to have conflicting stories.

If a post falls into that very limited, distinct category, it is okay. If it goes outside those parameters, it is not okay.

Tricia asked for a PM regarding what points to Paddock as an arms dealer and, other than a response on the thread, I don’t believe Tricia received a PM or has had an opportunity to make a decision that regard. At this time, discussion of SP being an arms dealer does not fall into the allowable discussion unless/until Tricia approves it.

Regarding LL being off-limits … unless someone can link me to a post where Tricia or another Mod/Admin has approved LL as a source, she is still not an allowable source.

Lastly, if you wish to enquire about or challenge moderation, TOS specifies that it should be via private message to Mods or Admin.

 

[watergirl62]

Do we know what weapon of choice LE used to fire the rounds in the door? Are the bullet holes congruent with what they use?

Page 37. They were fired from north to south (from inside). So 223 from AR-15 or 308 from AR-10. Probably not the 38.

They would be large holes (see pic for reference).

https://goo.gl/images/NATNp9

I needed to see the size of the round compared to a 45. I can always see holes from my 45 on gun range targets from a distance, but holes from my 22 not so much ( I have to move the target closer to see them).

 

[Gooddeeds]

Distraction? They what us looking over here so that we aren't looking over there type of thing?

Lombardo is a practical joker and wanted to throw the "keyboard warriors" off?

I really don't know. I don't like to speculate. I ask questions. I get enough grief over the questions I ask without even speculating.

If I don’t ask shame on me. ‘Distraction’ may very well be why some of the photos are more blurred than others.

We all know when fabrication is involved all holes (no pun intended) must be accounted for. In this case it seems they were way in over their heads to make it believable. With each entity trying to fit with the other, though not at their individual cost it became a mess.

This would explain why the photos are trying to fit 3 or more narratives. When you tell a lie, you have to keep telling more lies...

 

[CoolJ]

Post #5 upthread, Tricia had this to say about conspiracy theories:



If a post falls into that very limited, distinct category, it is okay. If it goes outside those parameters, it is not okay.

Tricia asked for a PM regarding what points to Paddock as an arms dealer and, other than a response on the thread, I don’t believe Tricia received a PM or has had an opportunity to make a decision that regard. At this time, discussion of SP being an arms dealer does not fall into the allowable discussion unless/until Tricia approves it.

Regarding LL being off-limits … unless someone can link me to a post where Tricia or another Mod/Admin has approved LL as a source, she is still not an allowable source.

Lastly, if you wish to enquire about or challenge moderation, TOS specifies that it should be via private message to Mods or Admin.

Thank you for the clarification sillybilly.

 

[kittythehare]

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/st...ly-no-mystery/2018/01/29#sthash.sWTTIC9N.uxfs

Lots here.

 

[Gooddeeds]

Page 7 FIT
On or around September 9th Paddock made his room reservation for a Vista Suite ending in 235 but not a specific floor. On September 20th Paddock was internally assigned to room 33-235. On September 21st Paddock was internally changed to room 32-235. On September 24th Paddock was assigned to room 32-135.

Then a 235 request on any floor would be logical if these are rooms/suites are only in a higher level category. That makes sense to me.

Iirc we did have a tower schematic that identified higher floors/suites.

We are left with:

September 9, reservation for a Vista suite ending in 235, no specific floor

September 20, internally ASSIGNED to 33-235

September 21, internally CHANGED to 32-235

September 24, —————ASSIGNED to 32-135 (fill in the blank)?

I see internally ASSIGNED and internally CHANGED.
On September 24 there is no specification on ‘INTERNALLY’. Could be a typo, could be a hole?

I see three different rooms here. Two are on the same 32nd floor.

Please share your take-aways, insight or corrections.

REFERENCING PAGE 7 FIT

 

[watergirl62]

I think Vista suites are located on floors 30-39. (Wiki says floors 40 and up are penthouses).

https://www.suiteness.com/suites/un...as/mandalay-bay-resort-and-casino/vista-suite

Scroll down to pics below the purple columns where it says 30th floor and up.

The implications of not specifying floor 30 through 39 but requesting a specific wing are what again?

Then a 235 request on any floor would be logical if these are rooms/suites are only in a higher level category. That makes sense to me.

Iirc we did have a tower schematic that identified higher floors/suites.

We are left with:

September 9, reservation for a Vista suite ending in 235, no specific floor

September 20, internally ASSIGNED to 33-235

September 21, internally CHANGED to 32-235

September 24, —————ASSIGNED to 32-135 (fill in the blank)?

I see internally ASSIGNED and internally CHANGED.
On September 24 there is no specification on ‘INTERNALLY’. Could be a typo, could be a hole?

I see three different rooms here. Two are on the same 32nd floor.

Please share your take-aways, insight or corrections.

REFERENCING PAGE 7 FIT

p7
On or around September 9th Paddock made his room reservation for a Vista Suite ending in 235
but not a specific floor. On September 20th Paddock was internally4 assigned to room 33-235.
On September 21st Paddock was internally changed to room 32-235. On September 24th
Paddock was assigned to room 32-135.

3 LVMPD Officer Body Worn Cameras; UBER Video; Interviews to include officers, civilians & Mandalay Bay
Employees; Mandalay Bay Video Surveillance; Lock Interrogation Documents; Cell Phone Videos & Records.
4 All internal changes to Paddock’s rooms were done by a Mandalay Bay computer without Paddock’s
knowledge.

HIghlighting footnote.

*speculation alert*
I think he wanted wing 200 above the 30th floor, got bumped around for other guests (since he reserved it over 2 weeks ahead) and when he showed up, they had already given away the wing 200 vista suites, so they moved him to wing 100, or he changed his preference, but I think he just got bumped. Given the location of his target venue (did I really just type that like I was writing a technical report... yes I did... sigh...), I think he would have only balked at his room assignment if they put him in the 300 wing.

 

[Gooddeeds]

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/st...ly-no-mystery/2018/01/29#sthash.sWTTIC9N.uxfs

Lots here.

I agree 100% that Joe is lying on just about everything.
Let’s hope that we get the reports that Poppa mentions, we do need them. It would have been nice to have Poppa on the scene as a disguised detective.

Once we have our Not Adding Ups checked and consolidated it may be possible to send them in to Poppa.

OT but very current and VIP to Las Vegas money is:
High stakes betting on SUPER BOWL going on.

OT but very current and VIP to Kirk Kerkorian (MGM) is:
Steve Wynn, his biggest rivalry is reportedly in a downward spin.

 

[watergirl62]

Ive done phone, tablet, laptop and desktop. My husband is a tech guy with Photoshop skills so he has amazing monitors. (yes plural) There are no bullet holes there that we can see IMO

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I concur. I had noticed the emergency exit placards from my phone, they look different also. IMO it looks like they photo-shopped out bullet-holes in the west front door, but left the 2 in the east front door. What?

 

[CoolJ]

Then a 235 request on any floor would be logical if these are rooms/suites are only in a higher level category. That makes sense to me.

Iirc we did have a tower schematic that identified higher floors/suites.

We are left with:

September 9, reservation for a Vista suite ending in 235, no specific floor

September 20, internally ASSIGNED to 33-235

September 21, internally CHANGED to 32-235

September 24, —————ASSIGNED to 32-135 (fill in the blank)?

I see internally ASSIGNED and internally CHANGED.
On September 24 there is no specification on ‘INTERNALLY’. Could be a typo, could be a hole?

I see three different rooms here. Two are on the same 32nd floor.

Please share your take-aways, insight or corrections.

REFERENCING PAGE 7 FIT

Warning - hearsay. A close friend of mine who has stayed in a vista suite at MBay many times says he is 95% sure the vista suites are only available on the upper floors.

Take that for what it’s worth. :crazy:

 

[watergirl62]

Warning - hearsay. A close friend of mine who has stayed in a vista suite at MBay many times says he is 95% sure the vista suites are only available on the upper floors.

Take that for what it’s worth. :crazy:

I provided a link today indicating the Vista suites are floors 30 and above. Congruent.

 

[WestieMom]

Curious what you think about the key entry portion of the suite doors, between these 2 photos shown here. They are taken from different angles and I wonder if that is what is making them look so different to me.

On the left, picture 2 from the FIT report.

https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/
Documents/1_October_FIT_Report_01-18-2018_Footnoted.pdf

On the right, crime scene tape covering suite entry door

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nb...inding-armory-stephen-paddock-s-hotel-n808886



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[kdg411]

Per FIT p50

Paddock's vehicle was located in Mandalay Bay East Valet, 2nd floor, space 317 by investigators. The vehicle a 2017 Chrysler Pacific bearing Nevada plate 79D401 had been backed into space 317 and was locked. The key for the vehicle was obtained from valet.

Picture 23 from FIT shows space # 247 up at the top. Can anyone explain this?

 

[WestieMom]

Per FIT p50

Paddock's vehicle was located in Mandalay Bay East Valet, 2nd floor, space 317 by investigators. The vehicle a 2017 Chrysler Pacific bearing Nevada plate 79D401 had been backed into space 317 and was locked. The key for the vehicle was obtained from valet.

Picture 23 from FIT shows space # 247 up at the top. Can anyone explain this?

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Good catch. It’s possible that the start of one row of numbers is next to the end of another row of now higher numbers. If the 2nd floor statement is true then the leading number of the space doesn’t equal the floor that it’s parked on. They also listed this picture which shows 315.

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[MzOpinion8d]

Per FIT p50

Paddock's vehicle was located in Mandalay Bay East Valet, 2nd floor, space 317 by investigators. The vehicle a 2017 Chrysler Pacific bearing Nevada plate 79D401 had been backed into space 317 and was locked. The key for the vehicle was obtained from valet.

Picture 23 from FIT shows space # 247 up at the top. Can anyone explain this?

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To me that looks like a number stenciled on some type of bag. Is it an evidence collection kit?