GUILTY NY - Jenni-Lyn Watson, 20, Clay, 19 Nov 2010

[Vresia]

Isn't a press conference a bit out of character for the way this case has been handled?

I had heard there was one press conference, but haven't actually seen it. It's possible they just haven't been as clearly reported as being press conferences and more statements from LE, so I missed them.

It just seems a bit abrupt and it worries me a bit... but I'm sure they would have seen increased activity or evidence of CSU or ME if they found something during the search...

I think that it is likely the press conference will address the use of public volunteers over the weekend.

As much as I am anxious to hear new information, I don't think there will be much. I agree with you- had something been discovered, we would have heard rumblings about increased activity at a particular location.

Given the flavor of what has and has not been reported, I believe the police actually have a person of interest in mind and that party has not been forthcoming with useful information. There simply isn't enough information to get search and arrest warrants approved; strong suspicions aren't enough. That is why LE is focused on: 1) searching where the last phone activity was and 2) following up on tips from the public.

The public has not been admonished to lock their doors, take extra safety precautions, or to be fearful of the person in the truck. I strongly believe that Jenni-Lyn knew her abductor and that LE believes this too.

 

[hockeymom]

If the boyfriend is the POI, didn't they interview him BEFORE the call from her cellphone, on the 23rd? Certainly, if he was suspect at all, there'd be a warrant out for HIS cellphone records....which could also be triangulated.

I agree. It seems like if it were the boyfriend,he would have been arrested by now. I still think it might be a stranger abduction. In my mind it really would help me if I knew if she had shoes on and what kind. If she didn't have any on, we know she left from inside her house. If she had them on,it opens up more possabilities.

 

[imamaze]

Search for Jenni-Lyn Watson resumes
In the day after Thanksgiving, the search for Jenni-Lyn Watson continues.
Onondaga County Sheriff's say detectives are finishing up the areas already searched and are expanding their search to east of Henry Clay Boulevard. Detectives have also setup a road-side canvass in the area of Donegal Way in an effort to gather any additional information from commuters.
More than 100 local law enforcement personnel are now searching for Watson.
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Search resumes in Clay for Jenni-Lyn Watson
The search for Jenni-Lyn Watson resumed at 7:30 a.m. with dozens of law enforcement officials again combing a wooded tract near the missing 20-year-old’s home for clues.
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More than 100 police search and rescue members join in search
More than 100 police officers and search-and-rescue team members were out again looking for a missing 20-year-old woman who disappeared a week ago from her Clay home.
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[Vresia]

Hockeymom-

Maybe it is a stranger abduction. I don't have a particularly great track record for accurately predicting these things.

I believe the last place Jenni-Lyn was willingly was her parents house.

It has been previously reported that Jenni-Lyn didn't drive. If she left the house voluntarily by car and disappeared from someplace other than her house, there would be cell (or possibly landline) records of the call(s) to set that up. And one would expect the person that she left with to have disclosed that immediately.

If she left the house willingly to go for a walk alone, I think someone in the neighborhood might have seen her. This sounds like it was a closeknit neighborhood where the family had lived for sometime. If a neighbor saw her, it might register more easily because she was a familiar member of the community that had returned from college.

No one has mentioned any habit of hers to take walks or jog. The family spokeswoman said that the family was under the impression she was going to veg out for a couple of days.

It has been reported that there were no signs of a struggle or anything else out of the norm in the house. That also makes me lean towards her knowing the abductor. I can picture a familiar party getting her out of the house with minimal fuss much easier than I can picture a stranger doing that.

 

[hockeymom]

Hockeymom-

Maybe it is a stranger abduction. I don't have a particularly great track record for accurately predicting these things.

I believe the last place Jenni-Lyn was willingly was her parents house.

It has been previously reported that Jenni-Lyn didn't drive. If she left the house voluntarily by car and disappeared from someplace other than her house, there would be cell (or possibly landline) records of the call(s) to set that up. And one would expect the person that she left with to have disclosed that immediately.

If she left the house willingly to go for a walk alone, I think someone in the neighborhood might have seen her. This sounds like it was a closeknit neighborhood where the family had lived for sometime. If a neighbor saw her, it might register more easily because she was a familiar member of the community that had returned from college.

No one has mentioned any habit of hers to take walks or jog. The family spokeswoman said that the family was under the impression she was going to veg out for a couple of days.

It has been reported that there were no signs of a struggle or anything else out of the norm in the house. That also makes me lean towards her knowing the abductor. I can picture a familiar party getting her out of the house with minimal fuss much easier than I can picture a stranger doing that.

Thats why I keep coming back to her shoes. If someone she knew somehow got her out of her house,I would still think she'd have something on her feet.If she didn't drive,she would have to have walk at least to someone elses car.If it were summer,I'd say maybe she walked out front barefoot,but not in this weather. If someone abducted her right from her home,wouldnt a neighbor notice a car in the driveway,or something? How did the person get her out?

 

[fhc]

Any weblinks for the news conf? TIA

 

[hockeymom]

Could someone local keep us updated on the press conference? Doubt it will be on national news. Thanks

 

[MsFacetious]

This is supposed to be Live News... if you do a search for "live" it will give you this link to watch from your computer. There is actually a big yellow link on their home page as well.

I haven't actually seen it work...

http://www.9wsyr.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=60980@video.wixt.com

 

[Vresia]

Thats why I keep coming back to her shoes. If someone she knew somehow got her out of her house,I would still think she'd have something on her feet.

That's a point where we differ. The scenario that I am stuck on has the party gaining easy access to the home/ Jenni-Lyn because they know each other. She's lets him in. Perhaps they spoke for a while and things heated up. Eventually, the person went from a known party to abductor. Jenni-Lyn couldn't get shoes. She was forced to leave.

I think she could have had her cell in her sweatshirt pocket. I don't think she had the opportunity to grab anything. I imagine she was "escorted out".

I have no explanation for why no one saw whatever happened.
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I cannot get the 9WSYR live link to work either.

 

[MsFacetious]

The facebook locals say it's live on channel 3... http://www.cnycentral.com/news/

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_166720936693987

That they said no public help in the search... yeah, we knew that.

 

[MsFacetious]

http://www.9wsyr.com/default.aspx

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/more_than_100_police_and_searc.html

http://www.cnycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=544125


The three that had reported the press conference was going to be held... so they'd likely report about it first too.

 

[Vresia]

I just heard from 9WSYR. I was told the live feed of the press conf wasn't available because of the football game. They said they will have raw video from the news conf online later tonight, and a full report on the 7pm, 10pm & 11pm newscasts.

From the updated story, concerning the news conference:
http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/sto...-needed-as-search/jyuxyRaWU0qP-WqAU3Q-qw.cspx

"One week since Jenni-Lyn Watson was last seen, the sheriff’s department says the size of search teams has tripled, and they won’t need civilian volunteers as the effort continues Saturday. Detectives expanded the search area Friday and finalized the search in areas already covered.

At an evening news conference, Undersheriff Warren Darby said search and rescue crews plan to be back out in the morning looking for 20-year-old Jenni-Lyn, who was last seen November 19.

Police set up road-side canvassing near the Watson family’s home on Donegal Way in Clay, the area Jenni-Lyn was last seen. She was home from college on Thanksgiving break.

In their expanded search, crews began covering an area east of Henry Clay Blvd.

Darby said the number of law enforcement and professional search and rescue personnel was large enough that they do not need members of the community to volunteer for the search."

 

[Soul125]

It looks like her parents home is in a small subdivision like my own. I know that where I live during the day my neighbors are all gone to work so no one would likely see anything in my neighborhood. I know it seems odd that nobody would see anything in broad daylight, but it happens time and time again. With no sign of any crime inside the home, it does seem strange though unless the person had a gun. Then she may have had no choice but to leave without taking anything with her but a cell phone hidden in her pocket.

 

[imamaze]

Search for Jenni-Lyn will continue through weekend
More than 100 people searched new areas for any evidence of missing Liverpool woman Jenni-Lyn Watson Friday.
Onondaga County Undersheriff Warren Darby says the number of people on the search team has tripled. Right now, the crews are made up of all law enforcement personnel and professional search and rescue teams. Investigators were considering asking for civilian help this weekend, but decided not to after the professional teams agreed to continue searching through the weekend.
Darby did ask people who own property in Clay to check any buildings like sheds or garages. He said people should be on the look out for anything unusual.
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Civilian search volunteers not needed
One week since Jenni-Lyn Watson was last seen, the sheriff’s department says the size of search teams has tripled, and they won’t need civilian volunteers as the effort continues Saturday. Detectives expanded the search area Friday and finalized the search in areas already covered.
At an evening news conference, Undersheriff Warren Darby said search and rescue crews plan to be back out in the morning looking for 20-year-old Jenni-Lyn, who was last seen November 19.
More...

 

[Bratislava]

I just heard from 9WSYR. I was told the live feed of the press conf wasn't available because of the football game. They said they will have raw video from the news conf online later tonight, and a full report on the 7pm, 10pm & 11pm newscasts.

From the updated story, concerning the news conference:
http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/sto...-needed-as-search/jyuxyRaWU0qP-WqAU3Q-qw.cspx

"One week since Jenni-Lyn Watson was last seen, the sheriff’s department says the size of search teams has tripled, and they won’t need civilian volunteers as the effort continues Saturday. Detectives expanded the search area Friday and finalized the search in areas already covered.

At an evening news conference, Undersheriff Warren Darby said search and rescue crews plan to be back out in the morning looking for 20-year-old Jenni-Lyn, who was last seen November 19.

Police set up road-side canvassing near the Watson family’s home on Donegal Way in Clay, the area Jenni-Lyn was last seen. She was home from college on Thanksgiving break.

In their expanded search, crews began covering an area east of Henry Clay Blvd.

Darby said the number of law enforcement and professional search and rescue personnel was large enough that they do not need members of the community to volunteer for the search."

Is LE ever concerned that a civilian who "offers" to volunteer search might purposefully tamper with evidence? I wonder if the ex has been taking part in these volunteer searches. I wonder if LE is just trying to get more control over who touches what and what happens during the searches. Since there is so little evidence, they can't afford to lose anything.

JMO.

 

[cluciano63]

I guess they did not have much to say at the press conference? This doesn't sound good, sounds to me as though no one has any idea where she is...

 

[crocus]

I've been following this case, lurking & reading. I sure hope they get a break and find Jenni-Lyn or at least evidence to show they are on the right track. I feel for her family's desperation and terror as they wait for answers. My prayers go out for them!

 

[webrocket]

Is LE ever concerned that a civilian who "offers" to volunteer search might purposefully tamper with evidence? I wonder if the ex has been taking part in these volunteer searches. I wonder if LE is just trying to get more control over who touches what and what happens during the searches. Since there is so little evidence, they can't afford to lose anything.

JMO.

I think they want the job done in a professional manner without concerns that a well-meaning member of the public might inadvertently compromise a crime scene.

at least they have many feet on the ground for this.

 

[wfgodot]

I'm not sure what LE's reasons are, but I'm completely underwhelmed by their actions thus far - no searches on Thursday? Mind-boggling. That's a day wasted. And the day before, on 24 November, it was reported that LE had only twenty-two people searching - twenty-two searchers, five+ days after Jenni-Lyn went missing.*

The powers that be seem more concerned with discouraging the public's natural inclination as citizens to help than they do with providing information which might lead to more, and more helpful, tips and leads from the public - let alone utilizing that public to search for Jenni-Lyn.

And if the powers that be are truly this bereft of information, it's time to call in another agency or agencies for much-needed assistance in the matter. Saying they now have plenty of searchers begs the question: Why did it take you a week to raise a sufficient amount of searchers for a missing girl?

The lack of transparency in this investigation thus far, raises many questions. And to assume that the public are not competent to assist in an investigation is woefully to underestimate the intelligence of that public.

Earlier today, WSYR-TV reported this: "A meeting is scheduled for Friday between the sheriff’s department and [Watson family spokesperson Kelly] Kinahan, where she says they’ll be discussing plans for volunteers to help in the search. After the meeting she expects to have details on how people can get involved."* We now know the result of that meeting, if it was actually held; and that result, after one week, is not at all satisfactory.

*http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/sto...-needed-as-search/jyuxyRaWU0qP-WqAU3Q-qw.cspx

 

[shefner]

Bizarre from day 1.....that LE has kept so much information away from the public. Compare this case to other ones that we have followed through the years.

I will say that on the first day that this case became public, I received a private message from a friend of Jenni-Lyn. The information this individual shared could not be verified by me and the person stated that because of this, the info should be considered "hearsay." Apparently an individual said they saw Jenni-Lyn on the morning of her disappearance and that's all I'll say about that and I only bring it up to show how frightened this person was to openly share something that would be helpful to discuss.

With this in mind, why would LE not reveal more details about this case? The whole public relations aspect of this case is poor. It essentially shuts down the flow of information and prohibits the public from sharing about it. This means the case loses interest and gets lost. If you look back at the recent Hermann/Maynard case, you can see how much more open things were right from the start.