Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 9

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You are only smelling double standards if your picking just the pieces of my comments that your wanting to hear.

Once again, this is why it is difficult for friends to make comments.

Please show me where I had said Jen was an unstable woman.

Please show me where did I say you stated anything like that. The discussion is about the portrait of Jen painted by the anonymous friends in media and about publishing the knowledge about the GR's tryst.
 
It was important to state where he was that day, and we eventually learned that he had picked up a ride with Jen's BF-the same woman he had been engaged in an affair with behind her back.
 
Several have made comments linking the affair and playing games and stating that one is okay and the other is not.

That has never been implied.

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I think spending a lot of time playing a game pales in comparison to the issues Jen was facing from her spouses behavior. JMO.
 
Where was this equated? Where was it suggested that these were the same? It never has been.

I'm just saying its pathetic for GR to have issues with anything his wife is doing when he is living a lie. The two things are way out of proportion to each other and to complain about a phone game while you are humiliating your wife by ------- her best friend is really pathological.
 
His affair with his wife's BF wound up becoming further relevant since he received a ride home from her on the day Jennifer mysteriously disappeared.

Unfortunately perhaps, but GR pulled her into the 11th of December, whether deliberate or not.
 
That is why LE knew about it. Having anyone else know about serves what purpose? Everyone I've ever known has dirty laundry things or moments in time that they are not proud of. Because of the potential motive police needed to know, but no one else did.

Unfortunately that's what happens when your wife is missing and she ends up dead.

GR and company was putting out plenty of negitive information about Jennifer and the possibility that she went to secretly meet someone she met online?

Why air that dirty laundry?

Ima
 
His affair with his wife's BF wound up becoming further relevant since he received a ride home from her on the day Jennifer mysteriously disappeared.

Unfortunately perhaps, but GR pulled her into the 11th of December, whether deliberate or not.

Was this ride confirmed? Thanks.
 
That was posited as a potential scenario to explain what happened. It wasn't stated in an attempt to discredit Jen. That has been stated several times.

That doesn't explain why someone would completely re-word a statement that had just been made 10 minutes ago.
 
Was this ride confirmed? Thanks.

Although LE had/has remained silent about GR's whereabouts that day:

A woman who had been assisting him in what he says was the search for his wife, Cynthia Caron, said last week that Ganesh Ramsaran went to the Norwich YMCA on the day his wife vanished, and later got a ride home from his female running companion. Caron, who is involved in a New Hamphire group that is registered as a charity and aids the family of missing people, claimed Ramsaran’s sexual involvement with the woman was a one-time fling that never bloomed into an affair.

http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1837420511/Missing-womans-sister-We-miss-you
 
That was posited as a potential scenario to explain what happened. It wasn't stated in an attempt to discredit Jen. That has been stated several times.

That doesn't explain why someone would completely re-word a statement that had just been made 10 minutes ago.

I dont understand where this random scenario would come from. WHY the she ran off, before OMG she got in a car accident on the way to the mall. No searching for a possible accident scene. Nothing of the sort, in fact searches were discouraged.

A previous insider lead us to believe she had issues, I am paraphrasing here, please someone correct me if I am wrong. LD/CC stated she personally spoke with GR and knew about the victim, this is when she gave us a random list of things that JR liked/disliked, burger topping, drink choices. Many people asked for clothing description, shoes descriptions, but were never given the answer.

In one of her posts she stated that JR could not run due to medical issues, when in fact JR ran and only came up about 3 minutes behind able bodied "runners". She also stated that JR was struggling to find herself....

There was a lot said to indicate that the only scenario was that she ran off. There was a lot of the "I have the big secret that will clear everything up, but can't tell you" type deal.

What statement are you saying got reworded?
 
I am seriously concerned that if a simple freaking phone game is a MAJOR issue in a marriage. Makes me wonder what other important things would be a major issue for him.

Seriously sad that they made out JR to be unstable but.... I beg to differ on who really is unstable.

bbm - buying clothes just for yourself.... :twocents:
 
I can speak regarding my thoughts. I knew that Jen would never leave willingly, GR knew that she would have never abandoned the children willingly.

Yet, there everyone was. Jen was missing. I was trying to imagine what could have happened. If Jen had left willingly she was out there and alive. If she hadn't left willingly, I don't think I need to expand on that. Yes, I wanted to believe that she left, not because I thought it was because she was a horrible person, but because it gave me hope she would return.

However, I would thinking about other scenarios. How would a woman driving to Syracuse vanish. It seemed unlikely that she stopped at a stop light and was car jacked. Please remember this was only thoughts in my mind, I'm not suggesting this is what happened. Also, I've admitted, the thought that GR was involved did not show up on my radar at all. So my I started imaging other scenarios. What would have made her stop somewhere else or meet someone else. If I assumed (thoughts in my head, not saying this was Jen's mental position) some scenarios based on things I did know. Example, I knew she was spending a lot of time on games. If she had been unhappy with the marriage, if even while trying to save the marriage was thinking about the possibility it wasn't going to be saved, if she was finding comfort talking to someone she met online. Then that gave me something that would explain what happened. If she was meeting someone and that person was not who he was claiming to be. That gave me a scenario.

There wasn't intent to say that is what happened, it simply gave me a plausible scenario that my mind could understand.

It wasn't planted or suggested by anyone, it was a purely conjecture.

I completely understand what you're saying here. This is, after all, pretty much what everyone does here, just that they do it about strangers. And you see it in the beginning of every single thread, the same questions:

'What was their home life like?'

'What's their online footprint?'

'Do they have a record?'

etc etc etc, and from there, people start having theories about what might be possible, what might fit.

I think it's perfectly understandable that you'd feel a little troubles, that what was, for you, a theory, (and I also understand that as a friend of Jen's husband you'd be far more reluctant to suspect him than, say, we woud be - I'd be the same with any of my friends, much as I'd like to believe I wouldn't be) just a basic idea, was being seen as proof of some kind of grand plan to discredit Jen from the early stages of her being missing.

Also, in the early stages of this case - I believe even at the time the article you were quoted in came out, people here were an awful lot less set in their theories than we are now.

However, I do think that everyone here has now spent several months (for some of us) hearing the same stories that paint Jen as someone who 'changed', was in some way a problem for her family, was overly invested in a gaming (which, as you say yourself, might be more the case of someone feeling she was, because they themselves were not, rather than anything that was actually a problem), would likely be found alive, etc etc etc. We heard very little else, for quite some time, and that didn't sit well with people here, who read a lot of cases.

And then we found out about the affair. Whether or not we 'needed' to know that doesn't really seem worth fighting over, to me, because we know, and lord knows we've enough drama on this board already. However....

IMO it's a horrible thing to do to someone. I realise it happens and we all make mistakes but I think if you're doing that with your wife's best friend, and it becomes public knowledge, you don't have much right to complain and act hard done by. Particularly when your wife is found dead. This is whether or not you had anything to do with her death.

Anyway, I guess I just wanted to say that while I do see where you're coming from, I think the out of context quotes in that article are really a very tiny part of why people here have the theories they do, and I'm not entirely sure why you're so keen to have us see what you really meant, as I highly doubt it's going to change anyone's opinion, at this point. Obviously, we're all ears when it comes to information about the case, but, sad as it may be, my ears have heard an awful lot of BS over this case, and as a result, have become quite wary of opening to the possiblity of more.

I hope you understand, as I don't mean this snarkily, just trying to explain how I feel.
 
Solus, you did explain your reasoning and I don't think anyone is trying to change what you said. Its not just you that said it (as a scenerio) it was GR, it was Lavanada, it was friends and that is who we are questioning as well.

We are not trying to change what you have said.
 
Not directed at you, Solus (and just making a general statement), but I would find it difficult to believe that none of GR's male friends thought it perhaps a bit odd that prior to publication of the article dated the 19th, GR had already made public contact with the first psychic to help find his spouse: that was 6 days after she disappeared (17 December 2012)! I cannot recall when he made contact with the second "intuitive," but that was fairly quickly, as well.

"Psychic" links not allowed.
 
Folks, please be sure to the quote the comment you're responding to.

Also, please be sure to clarify in your post who you are referring to when making stated comparisons.

I think some of your are making comments about statements in general and new members are taking it as being attributed to something they said. Let's please clarify.
 
It didn't matter to the extent it is being expressed here. Do you have a spouse, partner or kids that have something they do, that annoys you. I'm saying it was a source of aggravation.

I do, but if any of them went missing I doubt I'd take the time to point out what annoyed me about them.
 
I'm embarrassed to admit that several years ago, I was spending 4 - 6 hours a day for several months talking with a friend online. I looked forward to going online and talking to her. That is how I view an emotional attachment. Not talking about being in love, just an excitement or connection for lack of better words.

From the comments on this site, I would have to guess I'm alone in that mindset.

I totally know what you're talking about and have been there/done that several times. You are NOT alone!
 
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