truthspider
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I think there is a strong likely hood that the SK got her number either from her or from JB because we know this SK loves phone games, and loves assuming other identities while on the phone. He may have gotten her number during their first encounter then started sending her messages (as himself, or pretending to be someone else) and manipulated her to behave the way he wanted her to. Convincing her that JB and or Pak were bad guys looking to harm her, "if you need help, I'll save you" or some such fantasy.
I think that at first she believed the lies and thought the whole "party" was planning her demise, but I think by the end of the call she ultimately figured out who the real threat was. We know he is an SK who manipulates girls into coming with him/meeting him alone so that people can't directly connect or prove the victim went with him. I think May 1st the SK tried (with or without pre-planning) a variation of his "don't tell anyone where you are going, or who you are going with, and come meet me" routine.
That is an intresting theory. If he knew she was headed to JB's for a date somehow in advance. Computer hack, cell phone hack, ect.... He could have sent her a text or even called and told her she was in danger and to get out of there.
I am gonna start looking into cell hack and computer hack info.
Wow there is alot of logistics involved in cell phone tracking. The main part is he would have to have access to her phone with out her knowledge prior to the day she disappeared in able to activate the tracker. And only if her cell phone had the GPS chip and a service company that supported the system. If she had an old style burn phone, it more than likely had no such chip.
This brings me to an idea. All the girls can be placed in NYC/LI area. Is there a phone dealer of some sort who sells these phones? I am in Germany so I don't know alot about how to purchase a throw away cell phone in NY. Are they legal phones, or are they black market?
Lets say one seller is selling to drug dealers and prostitutes, he could have the phones already rigged up for tracking before he sell them. It is a wild theory, but if we could somehow find out where they get these phones from it would help at least eliminate this possibility....
http://www.ehow.com/how_5335830_track-phone-show-exact-location.html
Apparently the name she said on the 911 call is "Mike".
OH OH, Where did you find that? I want. I want!!!!!
Holy crap, this is kind freaky:
Check out these posts from SY (his screenname is nyhotcpl):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/archive/index.php/t-784-p-1.html
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/archive/index.php/t-1971-p-1.html
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/archive/index.php/t-661.html
If anyone has info on the name "Mike", please post on the accuracy of this assertion. Goathairjones, I know you are a quality poster, and trust your posts, but do we have any verifiable info to base this on? This could change a whole lot of things.
Thanks
If anyone has info on the name "Mike", please post on the accuracy of this assertion. Goathairjones, I know you are a quality poster, and trust your posts, but do we have any verifiable info to base this on? This could change a whole lot of things.
Thanks
Holy crap, this is kind freaky:
Check out these posts from SY (his screenname is nyhotcpl):
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/archive/index.php/t-784-p-1.html
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/archive/index.php/t-1971-p-1.html
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/archive/index.php/t-661.html
yep and there are more...that's what I sent to Suffolk County.
He hires prostitutes all over the place...he's also posted about swinging and gay nightlife...just a tad strange!
I tend to think in light of the "Mike" drop, is that SG has nothing to do with the GB4 murders except that the bodies were found in search for SG. So if it is true that PAK was the one named as wanting to kill her, what would be his motive? If it is true that JB called PAK and asked him to get her out of the house, that is his job. So lets say JB didn't pay her, how is she gonna pay PAK for sitting around for over at least an hour and a half if not more. She could have been scared her "driver" was gonna demand payment and she begged not to leave the house. SG is one tough girl, but she is still the weaker of the species. If PAK started to get stupid with her and maybe even physical, that could have sent her into hysterics, causing her to run to GC's house. After GC's call she sees PAK driving down the road and cannot expect to be protected by an old guy like GC and splits again under the boat. GC speaks to PAK and I guess you could say PAK sort of made a threat. GC,"I called the police". PAK, "You shouldn't have done that."
PAK continues to search for SG. SG must now have made the last call for 23 mins. If it is true that the 911 call reveals SG being pulled into the truck and telling the dispatcher they guys name is Mike, it can only be one Mike she is speaking of. It is not clear exactly where SG was put into the truck, or if she really ever was in it.
The whole CHP thing could have started by his own will, trying to get involved and look like he is some sort of private guard of the community. Hey this did happen on his so called "watch". He just bumbled and lied and got in way tooo far over his head. MOO. This is not based on FACTS, but it an attempt to track the events, although it is in an abbreviated way.
If she did, in fact, mention her driver by name then it seems quite possible that he dragged her into the car and maybe killed her out of frustration, without meaning to. Coming back the next day to look for her would be done in an effort to make him look less suspicious?
If so, that takes JB and the doc(s) off the hook and makes it extremely unlikely that SG's disappearance was related to the Gilgo Beach bodies. Make sense?
BTW, this is my first post here. Was at the LISK site, but things are a tad off there. Will likely be reading more than commenting, as you guys seem to have extremely good insight.