weepingangel
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My 14yo is a pretty extreme risk taker with little regard for his personal safety. It's one of his more endearing traits.I could go on and on about his lapses in judgement and some have proved quite injurious.
He would absolutely climb that antennae and get on that roof. However, there's no way he'd try to go down the chimney. He might look in it, throw things down it. But he would realize that 9x13" was going to lead to him getting real stuck, real fast.
I agree. It seems more likely to me that a 14 year old as smart as Harley appeared to be in his videos would find another way in.
Given that, I can only think of two not very feasible ways that HD's body could show up there if HD didn't place himself there:
1. Someone else climbed the ladder and crossed the roof (carrying HD's body), and dropped HD's body down the chimney. But then, how did HD's coat and eyeglasses end up pushed out the flue on the second floor (unless the person also had a key and placed them there so HD's body would eventually be discovered... but if you have a key, why climb out on the roof with a body and risk being discovered... unless you know about the blocked chimney)? Or;
2. Someone else entered the house with a key, pushed his body UP the chimney and constructed the block below his body between first and second floor AFTER his body was inside and then placed his coat and eyeglasses outside the flue upstairs to give the appearance Harley had done so (i.e. staging). Why IS a flue there anyway if the chimney is blocked below?
The first involves significant risk of discovery while in the act. Both could occur in the vast time frame from disappearance to beginning of search. Given that time frame, I would hope that investigators considered the possibility of staging in their work last night rather than adopted a firm conclusion this was an accident.
There have been a lot of oddities in this case. Two come to mind in relation to the recent discovery.
1. At the candlelight vigil, the only family member to speak to the gathered crowd was HD's grandfather and he was quite obviously very distressed. He repeatedly referred to Harley in the PAST TENSE, before he made a public appeal to Harley to come home. It's possible, as former LE, grandfather knew that the first 48 hours a person is missing is a critical time, so his use of past tense reflected his worst fears. Or, it could have been a meaningful slip indicating he feared something happened to Harley at home given what he knows about the family. And;
2. Twice, in public statements, Mom mentioned that Dad was out at 2 am searching because he couldn't sleep. Of course a father would be out searching for a missing child. Why feel the need to mention that particular piece of information and a particular exact time?
I want to know: What was Harley wearing in the chimney? Was the clothing the same as what he had been wearing at the friend's home the night before?
I understand what you're saying.In his video they're taped up on both sides- I think breaking stuff was his norm
Perhaps he thought if he could fit down a chimney it'd be fun to film it and put it on YouTube.
Also, let's not forget this lady, who fell behind a bookcase and died trying to execute a maneuver that she and her sister had both done many times before; the simple plugging in of an appliance:
Missing woman found dead behind bookcase
Yes, I could understand an early sweep of the house that missed him if his glasses and coat had still been on him. But they didn’t enter until yesterday. And the glasses and coat were in easy sight. Ugh.I can not listen anymore. This is more than an accident. He is dead because all those people failed to look in a Gosh Darn vacant house that could be seen from his house.
Being female - this makes zero logical sense to me.
Being a mother of a son- I’m not surprised by the act itself, boys do really dumb dangerous stuff.
I’m more shocked he’d enter someone else’s home.
I can’t imagine being his mother. Never laid eyes on him the last time she spoke to him, never got up, never felt his forehead when he said he was sick.
I don’t think I could live with myself & l know I could never forgive myself. What she’s facing is pure hell -
Because he pushed them out of the 2nd floor flue opening when he was stuck.
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Sorry, I have to disagree on the grounds that "Harley would have been clever enough to have found another way"; of the classic teen boy-ism: the family stories where "remember the time that Bobby thought he could toboggan off the second floor roof? Broke both arms when he landed; and after we got him doctored up, we asked him what he was thinking when he came up with this plan. He said:
'I don't know. It seemed like a good idea at the time'"
In my experience, it's practically the clarion call of teenage-boy passage.