OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered - 4 Wagner Family Members Arrested #87

[arielilane]

Thank you! It was that previous post that listed the motion hearing on 12/15 - so was confused. I shall add that to my notes! Thanks again!

Niner, the reindeer is too cute!

 

[arielilane]

GW4 found guilty on all 22 counts in Pike County Murders

Video is worth the watch and is a little over 5 minutes long.

 

[Cool Cats]

Severe penalties, emotional victim statements expected at Wagner sentencing​

Severe penalties, emotional victim statements expected at Wagner sentencing

"I don't know how he gets anything less than multiple consecutive life sentences," legal analyst says.

local12.com

CINCINNATI (WKRC) – George Wagner IV’s sentencing hearing is scheduled for early Monday morning, five and a half weeks after a jury of nine women and three men took less than eight hours to find him guilty on all 22 charges for his role in the 2016 Pike County massacre.

From article:

Jake had previously pleaded guilty to all charges in exchange for a sentence of life in prison without parole, and testified he killed at least five of the victims and his father Billy killed three.

Do I have this right?

Didn't Jake say he shot Chris in the arm but Billy killed Chris, Gary and Kenny?

And didn't Jake say Billy also shot Frankie?

When did Jake say Billy shot Frankie?

This is the closest we have come to learning who shot Chris, Gary and Kenny.

Jake said George didn't shoot anyone but wasn't there a cluster of shots on the trailer that showed someone had a good aim? And George was the better hunter, plus hunted at night, so those shots could have been from George. Also, didn't Jake say he closed his eyes when shooting Chris? Just sounds like George would have had a better chance of hitting Chris in the arm.

I think Jake was protecting George about shooting. Canepa said Jake's proffer says George didn't shoot anyone, but she said the prosecution ISN'T SAYING THAT and there is a difference.

Maybe the prosecution thinks George shot Chris's trailer and shot his arm.

At any rate, if Billy goes through with his trial, maybe the shooting of Chris, Gary and Kenny will become a bit more clearer. Without a direct confession from George and Billy, it is harder to get to the truth of the shooting of those 3.

But the thing about Billy shooting Frankie really confuses me.

Guns were found at FWF where Billy lived. Here is a gun next to a bed on top - of all things - a Bible story book! Billy was raised with the Bible and guns. He chose crime and shooting people rather than sticking to Biblical teachings.

 

[pcrum12]

Thank you! It was that previous post that listed the motion hearing on 12/15 - so was confused. I shall add that to my notes! Thanks again!

i think there may have been a hearing for gw3 on 12/15?

 

[LMDlong]

10am EST and I do believe it will be live on Law and Crime's Youtube channel!

Pike county time 10:30ish .

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Per "normal" protocol, GW4 will be returned to Scioto county jail until the paperwork is completed for transfer to State custody. Then he will be transferred to (more than likely) Orient Reception Center. It "normally" takes 1-2 weeks to happen after sentencing, but I emphasize the word NORMAL simply because this case has been anything but normal. All MOO.

 

[pcrum12]

Per "normal" protocol, GW3 will be returned to Scioto county jail until the paperwork is completed for transfer to State custody. Then he will be transferred to (more than likely) Orient Reception Center. It "normally" takes 1-2 weeks to happen after sentencing, but I emphasize the word NORMAL simply because this case has been anything but normal. All MOO.

GW4?

 

[Betty P]

Hope this works. It’s a link to transcript (Adobe Acrobat) of Jake’s testimony.

Adobe Acrobat

acrobat.adobe.com

Is it ok to put this link into the Media, Links & Timelines thread? We should probably post the trial docs from GW4's trial over there for future reference.

OH - 8 Family Members Murdered, Pike Co., Media, Maps & Timeline *NO DISCUSSION*

https://local12.com/news/local/george-wagner-returns-to-court-for-motions-head-of-jury-selection-in-pike-county-angela-jake-billy-rhoden-gilley-massacre-custody-battle-conspiracy-kill- Video of hearing at link “Friday, Pike County Common Pleas Judge Randy Deering also overruled several defense...

www.websleuths.com

 

[Betty P]

i think there may have been a hearing for gw3 on 12/15?

GW4 has his sentencing hearing on 12/19/2022.

I checked Billy's a few days ago, but didn't see anything new. ICBW

 

[Caylee Advocate]

GW4?

Sorry, yes G4. I changed it.

 

[Niner]

i think there may have been a hearing for gw3 on 12/15?

from court site:


for GW4:

12/14/2022 STATE'S SENTENCING MEMORANDUM FILED
COPIES FILED RETD TO COUNSEL

12/14/2022 DEFENDANT'S SENTENCING MEMORANDUM FILED
Attorney: PARKER, JOHN PATRICK
Attorney: NASH, JR, RICHARD M

12/14/2022 MOTION NO. 120 DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR NEW TRIAL FILED
Attorney: PARKER, JOHN PATRICK
Attorney: NASH, JR, RICHARD M

12/15/2022 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Judge: DEERING, RANDY D
Event: MOTION HEARING
Date: 12/19/2022 Time: 10:00 AM

12/15/2022 COSTS FOR NOTICES MAILED


Hearings:
12/19/2022 10:00 AM SENTENCING DEERING, RANDY D

12/19/2022 10:00 AM MOTION HEARING DEERING, RANDY D

link: https://cpcourt.pikecounty.oh.gov/e...q7rzi0OaNzacStGZy1BsbGLwb0rawJXkzTbP6LfufFutw


No updates for GW3 - last docket entry is 10/13/22 & last hearing 2/1/22.

 

[twall]

Thank you! It was that previous post that listed the motion hearing on 12/15 - so was confused. I shall add that to my notes! Thanks again!

12/15 is the date GWIV's motion hearing date was posted to docket. Sorry to confuse you! Cute reindeer!

 

[Cool Cats]

Per "normal" protocol, GW4 will be returned to Scioto county jail until the paperwork is completed for transfer to State custody. Then he will be transferred to (more than likely) Orient Reception Center. It "normally" takes 1-2 weeks to happen after sentencing, but I emphasize the word NORMAL simply because this case has been anything but normal. All MOO.

Thanks for information. I thought George would go to the Ohio prison intake reception center this Monday.

When your out on Bond or house arrest and then go to court and get a prison sentence, the judge decides if you report to prison at a later date, or if you go to prison that day.

If you are immediately remanded to prison you skip jail and go straight into the Ohio prison system = the intake reception center.

Since George has been in jail over 4 years it makes sense that he could be sent back to his current jail and then paper work gets processed in order to transfer him to State prison.

So it looks like he will spend his 4th Christmas in jail. Maybe New Years Eve in a prison reception center?

Stay tuned. I will be watching for his new prison mugshot, taken the day an inmate arrives at the reception center.

And I will be watching to see what prison he is sent to and what his prison classification will be.

Department of Rehabilitation and Corrections

drc.ohio.gov

Classification​

Level 1 - The lowest security level in the classification system. As part of the 3-Tier prison system, Level 1 inmates are granted the highest levels of privilege and autonomy whenever possible (subject to operational needs of the facility). Incarcerated individual behavior at Level 1 is expected to be rule compliant and pro-social and Level 1 individuals are eligible for admission to Reintegration Units.

Level 2 - A security level for individuals who are deemed in need of more supervision than Level 1, but less than Level 3. A double perimeter, razor ribbon reinforced, alarmed and patrolled fence is required for this level of security. Individuals tend to receive greater autonomy and freedom of movement during the day so as to encourage pro-social behavior and programming as part of the 3-Tier prison system. Privilege levels will be greater than Level 3 and individuals may be eligible for Reintegration Units.

Level 3 - The security level that is the next degree higher than Level 2, and requires more security/supervision than Level 2, but less than Level 4. A double perimeter, razor ribbon reinforced, alarmed and patrolled fence is required for this level of security. As part of the 3-Tier prison system, Level 3 is considered General Population, but is designed for individuals who are more likely to, or have previously engage(d), in disruptive prison behavior.

Level 4 -The security level that is the next degree higher than Level 3, and requires more security/supervision than Level 3. It represents the primary security level for Control Units in the 3-Tier System. The physical security requirements for Level 4 may vary based on the overall physical structure of the facility.

ERH - A security level for individuals who commit or lead others to commit violent, disruptive, predatory, riotous actions, or who otherwise pose a serious threat to the security of the institution as set forth in the established ERH criteria. ERH represents the highest level of security possible in the 3-Tier System and is reserved for those who cannot be safely managed at any lower security level.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Thanks for information. I thought George would go to the Ohio prison intake reception center this Monday.

When your out on Bond or house arrest and then go to court and get a prison sentence, the judge decides if you report to prison at a later date, or if you go to prison that day.

If you are immediately remanded to prison you skip jail and go straight into the Ohio prison system = the intake reception center.

Since George has been in jail over 4 years it makes sense that he could be sent back to his current jail and then paper work gets processed in order to transfer him to State prison.

So it looks like he will spend his 4th Christmas in jail. Maybe New Years Eve in a prison reception center?

Stay tuned. I will be watching for his new prison mugshot, taken the day an inmate arrives at the reception center.

And I will be watching to see what prison he is sent to and what his prison classification will be.

Department of Rehabilitation and Corrections

drc.ohio.gov

Classification​

Level 1 - The lowest security level in the classification system. As part of the 3-Tier prison system, Level 1 inmates are granted the highest levels of privilege and autonomy whenever possible (subject to operational needs of the facility). Incarcerated individual behavior at Level 1 is expected to be rule compliant and pro-social and Level 1 individuals are eligible for admission to Reintegration Units.

Level 2 - A security level for individuals who are deemed in need of more supervision than Level 1, but less than Level 3. A double perimeter, razor ribbon reinforced, alarmed and patrolled fence is required for this level of security. Individuals tend to receive greater autonomy and freedom of movement during the day so as to encourage pro-social behavior and programming as part of the 3-Tier prison system. Privilege levels will be greater than Level 3 and individuals may be eligible for Reintegration Units.

Level 3 - The security level that is the next degree higher than Level 2, and requires more security/supervision than Level 2, but less than Level 4. A double perimeter, razor ribbon reinforced, alarmed and patrolled fence is required for this level of security. As part of the 3-Tier prison system, Level 3 is considered General Population, but is designed for individuals who are more likely to, or have previously engage(d), in disruptive prison behavior.

Level 4 -The security level that is the next degree higher than Level 3, and requires more security/supervision than Level 3. It represents the primary security level for Control Units in the 3-Tier System. The physical security requirements for Level 4 may vary based on the overall physical structure of the facility.

ERH - A security level for individuals who commit or lead others to commit violent, disruptive, predatory, riotous actions, or who otherwise pose a serious threat to the security of the institution as set forth in the established ERH criteria. ERH represents the highest level of security possible in the 3-Tier System and is reserved for those who cannot be safely managed at any lower security level.

Okay. He more than likely won't be transferred to Orient Reception Center until after the holidays, but who knows wtf goes on with this cluster ^$*% case from day to day. I do know we just had a female sentenced in our court on Friday to 10-15 years, and she got sent back to county. Oh well, he's not going anywhere so it doesn't really matter when he transfers just glad he will be.

IIRC the minimum sentence per murder charge is 20 years so times that by 8= 160 years if consecutive and that's not including gun specs plus all other charges. One way or another, he'll come out in a body bag.

The thing that really ticks me off is AW, she should be going right along with her demon offspring and serving the same... life x 8 plus.

 

[Niner]

Monday, December 19th:
*Sentencing Hearing & Motions Hearing (@ 10am ET) - OH - Pike County 8 people dead: Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (40), his ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden (37), their three children, Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden (20), Christopher Jr. (16), Hanna Mae (19); Frankie's fiancée, Hannah Hazel Gilley (20), Christopher Rhoden Sr.'s brother, Kenneth Rhoden (44), & a cousin, Gary Rhoden (37). Hanna Rhoden's baby girl (5 days old), another baby (6 mos.) & a young child (3) were unharmed. (April 21-22, 2016, Pebbles) – for *George Washington Wagner IV (27/now 31) (Jakes’ bro) indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18), charged (11/15/18) & arraigned (11/28/18) with 8 counts aggravated murder, (plus gun specifications on each), 1 count of 1st degree conspiracy, 4 counts of 1st degree aggravated burglary, 1 count of 5th degree unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, 3 counts of 3rd degree evidence tampering, 1 count of 5th degree forgery, 1 count of 5th degree unauthorized use of computer or telecommunications, 1 count of 4th degree interception of wire, oral or electronic communication, 1 count of 5th degree obstructing justice, & 1 count of 1st degree engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek the DP. Per Jake’s plea agreement, DP is off the table only for Jake if his testimony is truthful. But George still faces the DP as he did not take a deal. DP dropped by Judge on 11/22/22.
Trial began on 8/29/22 with final jury selection & the jury was seated on 8/30/22. 12 Jurors & 6 alternates. Jury: (9 women & 3 men) & 6 alternates: (5 women & 1 man). 9/30/22: Ill juror replaced with alternate. 12 jurors & 5 alternates. Jury: (9 women & 3 men) & 5 alternates (4 women & 1 man). A few are in their late 20s or 30s, but most are in their 40s or 50s.
Trial began with opening statements on Monday, 9/12/22 & ended on 11/18/22. State rested their case on 11/18/22. Defense rested their case 11/18/22. Closing arguments began on 11/28 & ended on 11/29/22. Jury started deliberations on 11/30/22.
Crime info & court hearings from 11/28/18 thru 9/6/22 & Trial Day 1-45 (9/12 to 11/18/22) no court/jury on 10/27, 11/4 & 11/11, 11/14 & 11/21 & 11/22/22 & Closing 11/28 to 11/29/22 & Jury deliberations & verdict on 11/30/22 reference post #5 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...d-4-wagner-family-members-arrested-87.648136/
11/30/22 Wednesday, Trial Day 48/Deliberations Day 1: VERDICT REACHED!
Guilty of aggravated murder for all 8 people, with all 8 gun specifications as indicted; Guilty of conspiracy; Guilty of aggravated burglary (4 counts); Guilty of aggravated burglary with firearm; Guilty of unlawful dangerous ordinance; Guilty of tampering with evidence (3 counts); Guilty of forgery; Guilty of unauthorized use of property; Guilty of intercepting communication; Guilty of obstructing justice; Guilty of engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity.
Judge Deering suggests scheduling sentencing between 12/14/22 & 12/23/22 (the last working day before the Christmas holiday). Pre sentencing memos to be received by 12/14/22.
12/2/22 Update: Sentencing hearing is set on 12/19/22 @ 10am. 12/14/22: Defendant's Sentencing Memorandum. Asking for a chance at parole in his sentencing memo since Angela Wagner has an out date. Motion #120: Defendant's motion for a new trial. Motion for new trial due to begin tried by a death penalty conviction prone specialized jury, the State had no intention of seeking death against him.
12/15/22 Update: Motions hearing on 12/19/22 at 10am.

 

[Dudly]

Okay. He more than likely won't be transferred to Orient Reception Center until after the holidays, but who knows wtf goes on with this cluster ^$*% case from day to day. I do know we just had a female sentenced in our court on Friday to 10-15 years, and she got sent back to county. Oh well, he's not going anywhere so it doesn't really matter when he transfers just glad he will be.

IIRC the minimum sentence per murder charge is 20 years so times that by 8= 160 years if consecutive and that's not including gun specs plus all other charges. One way or another, he'll come out in a body bag.

The thing that really ticks me off is AW, she should be going right along with her demon offspring and serving the same... life x 8 plus.

I am sure AW did all she could to push the issue that SW had to be in HER household.
SW had to be saved from everyone else.
“You know what’s going to happen if she lives with those people”

 

[Betty P]

Monday, December 19th:
*Sentencing Hearing & Motions Hearing (@ 10am ET) - OH - Pike County 8 people dead: Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (40), his ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden (37), their three children, Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden (20), Christopher Jr. (16), Hanna Mae (19); Frankie's fiancée, Hannah Hazel Gilley (20), Christopher Rhoden Sr.'s brother, Kenneth Rhoden (44), & a cousin, Gary Rhoden (37). Hanna Rhoden's baby girl (5 days old), another baby (6 mos.) & a young child (3) were unharmed. (April 21-22, 2016, Pebbles) – for *George Washington Wagner IV (27/now 31) (Jakes’ bro) indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18), charged (11/15/18) & arraigned (11/28/18) with 8 counts aggravated murder, (plus gun specifications on each), 1 count of 1st degree conspiracy, 4 counts of 1st degree aggravated burglary, 1 count of 5th degree unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, 3 counts of 3rd degree evidence tampering, 1 count of 5th degree forgery, 1 count of 5th degree unauthorized use of computer or telecommunications, 1 count of 4th degree interception of wire, oral or electronic communication, 1 count of 5th degree obstructing justice, & 1 count of 1st degree engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek the DP. Per Jake’s plea agreement, DP is off the table only for Jake if his testimony is truthful. But George still faces the DP as he did not take a deal. DP dropped by Judge on 11/22/22.
Trial began on 8/29/22 with final jury selection & the jury was seated on 8/30/22. 12 Jurors & 6 alternates. Jury: (9 women & 3 men) & 6 alternates: (5 women & 1 man). 9/30/22: Ill juror replaced with alternate. 12 jurors & 5 alternates. Jury: (9 women & 3 men) & 5 alternates (4 women & 1 man). A few are in their late 20s or 30s, but most are in their 40s or 50s.
Trial began with opening statements on Monday, 9/12/22 & ended on 11/18/22. State rested their case on 11/18/22. Defense rested their case 11/18/22. Closing arguments began on 11/28 & ended on 11/29/22. Jury started deliberations on 11/30/22.
Crime info & court hearings from 11/28/18 thru 9/6/22 & Trial Day 1-45 (9/12 to 11/18/22) no court/jury on 10/27, 11/4 & 11/11, 11/14 & 11/21 & 11/22/22 & Closing 11/28 to 11/29/22 & Jury deliberations & verdict on 11/30/22 reference post #5 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...d-4-wagner-family-members-arrested-87.648136/
11/30/22 Wednesday, Trial Day 48/Deliberations Day 1: VERDICT REACHED!
Guilty of aggravated murder for all 8 people, with all 8 gun specifications as indicted; Guilty of conspiracy; Guilty of aggravated burglary (4 counts); Guilty of aggravated burglary with firearm; Guilty of unlawful dangerous ordinance; Guilty of tampering with evidence (3 counts); Guilty of forgery; Guilty of unauthorized use of property; Guilty of intercepting communication; Guilty of obstructing justice; Guilty of engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity.
Judge Deering suggests scheduling sentencing between 12/14/22 & 12/23/22 (the last working day before the Christmas holiday). Pre sentencing memos to be received by 12/14/22.
12/2/22 Update: Sentencing hearing is set on 12/19/22 @ 10am. 12/14/22: Defendant's Sentencing Memorandum. Asking for a chance at parole in his sentencing memo since Angela Wagner has an out date. Motion #120: Defendant's motion for a new trial. Motion for new trial due to begin tried by a death penalty conviction prone specialized jury, the State had no intention of seeking death against him.
12/15/22 Update: Motions hearing on 12/19/22 at 10am.

Today is the day. Will make sure to catch the hearing at 10 this morning

 

[arielilane]

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WATCH: OH v. #GeorgeWagnerIV sentencing begins at 10 ET. He faces LWOP for his role in the murders of 8 members of the Rhoden and Gilley families
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[Ann99]

This morning will there be victim advocate statements from family etc.?

 

[ohioexpat63]

Okay. He more than likely won't be transferred to Orient Reception Center until after the holidays, but who knows wtf goes on with this cluster ^$*% case from day to day. I do know we just had a female sentenced in our court on Friday to 10-15 years, and she got sent back to county. Oh well, he's not going anywhere so it doesn't really matter when he transfers just glad he will be.

IIRC the minimum sentence per murder charge is 20 years so times that by 8= 160 years if consecutive and that's not including gun specs plus all other charges. One way or another, he'll come out in a body bag.

The thing that really ticks me off is AW, she should be going right along with her demon offspring and serving the same... life x 8 plus.

I do believe AW should be in the LWOP group. I dont understand the reasoning behind her getting the deal she got. From what I hear d she was the ringleader in all of this.