OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#37

[rsd1200]

O/T One of the things that was so sick about this crime is they killed a 6 year old girl to get custody of her 4 year old brother.

When they finally arrested Beverly Noe and asked her how she could kill a 6 year old child she told investigators "that little girl was damaged goods".

O/T And at 26 years old, the brother finds out, and his life as he knew it was over. His whole world just flipped on the day they dug that vehicle out. It was all about her.

 

[pepper 34]

I wonder if anyone else remembers more than I do about Dana using a SM account to pray to her deceased friend for protection from the "evil ones" shortly before the murders? But, then I think she must have meant something or some other people or "things" other than the W's because wouldn't lots of people have asked her who or what she was afraid of? If she had explained to anyone, then those people would have spoken to LE right away... wouldn't they?
That's just another thing that's bugged me for a long time. What was going on to make Dana do that and in such a "public" way?

 

[Myland]

I wonder if anyone else remembers more than I do about Dana using a SM account to pray to her deceased friend for protection from the "evil ones" shortly before the murders? But, then I think she must have meant something or some other people or "things" other than the W's because wouldn't lots of people have asked her who or what she was afraid of? If she had explained to anyone, then those people would have spoken to LE right away... wouldn't they?
That's just another thing that's bugged me for a long time. What was going on to make Dana do that and in such a "public" way?

Jmo Dana used that phrase many times in the years past. I don’t necessarily think each time she used the phrase she was referring to the same people. It seemed to be the way she referred to people she didn’t agree with or like. Jmo

 

[pepper 34]

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[pepper 34]

Jmo Dana used that phrase many times in the years past. I don’t necessarily think each time she used the phrase she was referring to the same people. It seemed to be the way she referred to people she didn’t agree with or like. Jmo

Thanks...

 

[ilovepierre]

I'll say it a million times: HOW could they have entered those trailers, walked around (as big as each of the W's are) and not have woken someone up? Granted in DR's trailer each may have thought each other were walking around. But, in FR's trailer---old, small, rickety, rocky. Perhaps, they'd all gotten used to weird noises.
One other rant: How those two babies in each bed weren't hit accidently is beyond me. One must be quite confident in their skills to avoid this. (Same with KR's killer; had to be confident 1 shot would do it particularly in the eye). (I've never shot a gun other than BB when a kid, so I'm clueless and have relied on others who ARE skilled to tell me how that all works.) I recall someone early on believing a woman was involved.
OK, carry on.

Do we actually know if the Rhodens were all asleep when the murders occurred?
IMO, everyone was awake or in bed (but not yet asleep) when they were killed.

 

[rsd1200]

Thanks...

I was gonna say, it seemed kinda like a term that the two of them used to call folks they had a beef with. She'd asked for extra prayers near the murders, but I have always believed that to be about the paternity of K and CG's desire to be at the hospital. HMR didn't want him there, and there were some words had shortly after she was born.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

I wonder if anyone else remembers more than I do about Dana using a SM account to pray to her deceased friend for protection from the "evil ones" shortly before the murders? But, then I think she must have meant something or some other people or "things" other than the W's because wouldn't lots of people have asked her who or what she was afraid of? If she had explained to anyone, then those people would have spoken to LE right away... wouldn't they?
That's just another thing that's bugged me for a long time. What was going on to make Dana do that and in such a "public" way?

She wanted to portray herself and the extension of herself (her enmeshed family) as victims. This is a common symptom in people with Emotional Dsyregulation Disorder aka Borderline Personality Disorder.

 

[CIA Team Member]

Do we actually know if the Rhodens were all asleep when the murders occurred?
IMO, everyone was awake or in bed (but not yet asleep) when they were killed.

Just what LE has told the public. I've thought perhaps they weren't asleep when they arrived, but may have been escorted there. IDK With so little information I, and I'm sure others, am pulling hairs out trying to comprehend this mess that in the end, we never will.
It'll always be, IMO, "...but, there HAS to be more to it..."

 

[CIA Team Member]

She wanted to portray herself and the extension of herself (her enmeshed family) as victims. This is a common symptom in people with Emotional Dsyregulation Disorder aka Borderline Personality Disorder.

Interesting.

 

[rsd1200]

She wanted to portray herself and the extension of herself (her enmeshed family) as victims. This is a common symptom in people with Emotional Dsyregulation Disorder aka Borderline Personality Disorder.

I almost saw it, that she was still talking to her confidant. I wouldn't post on a deceased friend's facebook, but I have seen others who do so, but not with the every, single, day, regularity, that DR did on BH's. She seemed to truly mourn him.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

I almost saw it, that she was still talking to her confidant. I wouldn't post on a deceased friend's facebook, but I have seen others who do so, but not with the every, single, day, regularity, that DR did on BH's. She seemed to truly mourn him.

Or she used that page to manipulate others into giving her attention.
Every single day with regularity Angela was posting on another male's FB wall even though he was dead. In addition to manipulating others to feel sorry for her (boo hoo my family is in alleged danger and my friend is dead), married Angela made it appear to everyone reading that FB page that she had an unusually strong attachment to a man who wasn't her husband. smh What a manipulative drama witch.

 

[DropthePuck]

I wonder if anyone else remembers more than I do about Dana using a SM account to pray to her deceased friend for protection from the "evil ones" shortly before the murders? But, then I think she must have meant something or some other people or "things" other than the W's because wouldn't lots of people have asked her who or what she was afraid of? If she had explained to anyone, then those people would have spoken to LE right away... wouldn't they?
That's just another thing that's bugged me for a long time. What was going on to make Dana do that and in such a "public" way?

She wanted to portray herself and the extension of herself (her enmeshed family) as victims. This is a common symptom in people with Emotional Dsyregulation Disorder aka Borderline Personality Disorder.

Gunslinging Granny, I'm a bit confused by your reply to Pepper 34's post. Pepper 34 was talking about Dana Rhoden but it sounds like your reply is referring to Angela Wagner. I could be wrong, but I don't remember anything about AW praying to a deceased friend on social media but I do remember Dana Rhoden doing that.

 

[rsd1200]

Or she used that page to manipulate others into giving her attention.
Every single day with regularity Angela was posting on another male's FB wall even though he was dead. In addition to manipulating others to feel sorry for her (boo hoo my family is in alleged danger and my friend is dead), married Angela made it appear to everyone reading that FB page that she had an unusually strong attachment to a man who wasn't her husband. smh What a manipulative drama witch.

DR was posting on BHilton's page, not AW.

 

[rsd1200]

O/T Is anyone else having (or still having) trouble with the WS site? I'm trying to figure out if this laptop is cursed.

 

[Subiechik21]

O/T Is anyone else having (or still having) trouble with the WS site? I'm trying to figure out if this laptop is cursed.

Yes, I am still having loading trouble every now and again.

 

[Julia966]

I'll say it a million times: HOW could they have entered those trailers, walked around (as big as each of the W's are) and not have woken someone up? Granted in DR's trailer each may have thought each other were walking around. But, in FR's trailer---old, small, rickety, rocky. Perhaps, they'd all gotten used to weird noises.
One other rant: How those two babies in each bed weren't hit accidently is beyond me. One must be quite confident in their skills to avoid this. (Same with KR's killer; had to be confident 1 shot would do it particularly in the eye). (I've never shot a gun other than BB when a kid, so I'm clueless and have relied on others who ARE skilled to tell me how that all works.) I recall someone early on believing a woman was involved.
OK, carry on.

It is truly remarkable. I mean, this isn't The Day of the Jackal or a James Bond movie, it's four regular people from rural Ohio, two of them in their 20s. And as rsd1200 points out, Big Billy doesn't normally enter any room unnoticed, I'd venture to guess.

I'm curious how the Wagners and the Rhodens got on. Were they close friends until the custody issue got in the way? Or were they only passing acquaintances? I know AW said she thought of HR as her daughter and so on, and the dog supposedly recognized them, but I wonder, historically, what their relationships were like, especially among the parents.

 

[CIA Team Member]

Question: Does LE require a search warrant to fly a drone over someone's property to investigate a crime? A crime that wasn't committed ON that property? I own my land/house but not the airspace. Just curious is all. Of course, conspiracy is a crime so could the crime of conspiracy have been committed on the W's property when they discussed?

 

[Charliegizmo49]

I'll say it a million times: HOW could they have entered those trailers, walked around (as big as each of the W's are) and not have woken someone up? Granted in DR's trailer each may have thought each other were walking around. But, in FR's trailer---old, small, rickety, rocky. Perhaps, they'd all gotten used to weird noises.
One other rant: How those two babies in each bed weren't hit accidently is beyond me. One must be quite confident in their skills to avoid this. (Same with KR's killer; had to be confident 1 shot would do it particularly in the eye). (I've never shot a gun other than BB when a kid, so I'm clueless and have relied on others who ARE skilled to tell me how that all works.) I recall someone early on believing a woman was involved.
OK, carry on.

Tata. . Let m interject. Angela was a marksman in the air force. All of these shots were at close range. As I’m learning to shoot desert rats I’m getting better. And she was trained. The others grew up hunting deer rabbits etc.

And shooting at less than 20 feet is easy. The only one that may have been a challenge is CSsr. I believe he was shot elsewhere, beaten, tortured until he revealed at least one hiding place for his money. And I believe the money was a strong secondary motive to custody.

And while Fredericka may not have been in on this horrific slaying from the inception, I believe and can see her skills in everything accomplished that night.

And perhaps the John Doe identified in one charge was yet another relative or very loyal employee. It could have been old man Waggie before his death.

I don’t know the cross FWs attorney Referred to as her guidance, but it cannot be the same cross 99% of us worship. And it’s sad, if she in fact did good things during her life, that all of that will be replaced with the legacy of 8 who died at the Waggies hand.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

Jmo Dana used that phrase many times in the years past. I don’t necessarily think each time she used the phrase she was referring to the same people. It seemed to be the way she referred to people she didn’t agree with or like. Jmo

I believe up to 10-15 people knew of the serious deadly threat against the Rhodens.

Here are my reasons;

1. Prior to this time and it was a relatively short time, KR was followed and called 911 telling them he felt his life to be in danger because of the aggressiveness if the other driver involved.

2. The “evil ones” comments made by Dana. Several times.

3. I think the argument/fight prior to the killings was mainly over money and most likely about the 30 k CRsr had paid for Dana’s new home. And the work they had done to it for CRsr and D