Just bringing this forward to reiterate that as of April 2018, Junk stated the Wagner’s are still the focus of this investigation.
I totally respect that. That just further shows how we all interpret things differently ya know? We can all hear or read the same thing and perceive the same words differently
LOL. I corner people as well, mainly my mom when I go visit. I believe she thinks I’m nuts but she listens haha. She’s given me opinion on both this case and Missy Bevers. I could discuss both cases for days on end and it comes from a place of deep compassion and the deep desire for justice.As I do yours , and you, and everyone else on the forum. I know that we all do care or we wouldn't be here, now, more than two years later. Not a day has passed that I don't think about these folks, and the children left behind who will grow up without a parent, and their other family, and then there's GSR, and LM&JRM , too who have lost children and grandchildren.
We recently had a family member move in with us, for a spell, and I've already cornered them about this case, well, I've lost count, of the times. My s/o walked in, and said, Oh, she's got you cornered about that case in Ohio, I see... at least I'll get a break for awhile.
How is it that CH isn't under suspicion? A bf being shoved out, the family didn't care for him because of drug use? His family's business could be helpful after a murder.
I have a question about gunshot wounds. How long after the body is hit does it take for bruising, or what looks like bruising, to occur? Is it immediate, like when you break a bone? Or is it one of those Where did this bruise come from, slower reactions.
Great post. Yes, a difference can be determined if a bruise is peri, post Mortem, or even at the time of death. Any bruise or contusion is blood pooling under the skin, however in the instance of a fresh bruise versus an older bruise the coloring is different. The medical examiner would’ve determined if bruising, if any, was relative to a gunshot wound or if it was a separate injury.
I totally respect that. That just further shows how we all interpret things differently ya know? We can all hear or read the same thing and perceive the same words differently
ETA-I tend to look at those types of things from a medical standpoint, probably the reasoning for my rational on why BJM said they looked like they were beaten. Physically, gunshot wounds can make the human body appear beaten when they really weren’t. And when the coroner didn’t say that and confirmed 32 bullet wounds, I decided in my own mind that there was no beating or torture. Numerou gun shot wounds cause serious trauma and bruising.
I agree. It looks like he also had a prior intestinal surgery on his autopsy, with the surgical staples, IIRCC in his cecum. Of course that could mean something as a small as an appendectomy or something as large as a bowel resection or hernia repair.
I agree. I tend to think CR1 was a moving target for the killer(s) hence the reason he was shot 9x.
I totally respect that. That just further shows how we all interpret things differently ya know? We can all hear or read the same thing and perceive the same words differently
ETA-I tend to look at those types of things from a medical standpoint, probably the reasoning for my rational on why BJM said they looked like they were beaten. Physically, gunshot wounds can make the human body appear beaten when they really weren’t. And when the coroner didn’t say that and confirmed 32 bullet wounds, I decided in my own mind that there was no beating or torture. Numerou gun shot wounds cause serious trauma and bruising.
