Howdeeeeeeeeeeeeee ye allllllllllsssssssssss!
I kept stuff in a word document as this has unfolded. Obviously they are separate "thoughts" over the past several days. I figured the most logical way to do this is to just state "topic change"!!
Good Lord! First, let me say, that as an urbinite, the only positive thing I can say is boy oh boy - have I gotten an education about rural America. WOW just WOW. i watched the show with granny/ and Beverly in the title- regularly, but oh my. Good Lord!
ON THE DAY it was breaking, at first I thought domestic. Hours later, when the word "execution" style, came out -drugs came in! In the middle of the two events, on day 1 ,however, is the key! IMO, to this mess
A local helicopter tv outlet hoovering over the big house., first day , The reporter states, "and over here (way,way,way in back of the big house) we see haz mat". They zoom in and sure enough I see two persons in all white jumpsuits. Who calls in hazmart 4 hours after discovering bodies? ....Who does not call haz mat when aware that deep in those ole woods are meth heroin labs, and god knows whatever else -
I found i wildly intriguing that the AG endlessly lists all the resources he has bought in. Unless there are regular LE folks running in Michael Jackson white jump suits.........
The implications are enormous- it shows prior knowledge by LE of what was going on . I think they have located the labs but are not releasing it. .I have tried to find it again, (first day video piece of this) but on that first day there were hours of video of aerial views just circling the area.
My only conclusion: Fond memories of "Breaking Bad" - I think we are going to find enormous meth/black tar/etc in this story. If anyone in the area knows what agency would dispatch haz mat in that area, it would be interesting to know the dispatch.The TV dude recognized them instantly
Topic change:The ole adage about apples not falling to far from the tree seems applicable here ...
It befuddles me, how all over the media these individuals are being defined as law abiding citizens!
When you pull up the last name - you get 81 results. (The Pike Court search engine that has been linked many times! ) here is what you find:
47 of those 81 results for the last name have nothing to do with seat belts or registration. It seems media glances through the results quickly.Many, that are drug related are filed under "Traffic" resulting in a totally different reality. Beyond the ones clearly labeled "criminal, (10 of which are directly drug related) here are the ones that are under "traffic":
6 incidents where the charge is "losing control of your vehicle" (- that sounds impairment to me). The actual charge says you don't have "reasonable" control of your car (!). Not being reasonably in control of the car you are driving sounds , well, sounds blasted from some substance, moo The charge listed under traffic as "ACD" there are two of them - means alcohol/drugs, listed under "traffic". 1 incident a hit and run.just imo has some "impairment" possibilities ! Listed under traffic! 1 incident is directly charged as a driving under influence of a substance- is under "traffic '.
Just last night I found this place, and it also is telling
http://www.sciotocountycpcourt.org/eservices/home.page.2
I can not help but concluding that the proclivity here, is not like "Mary Tyler Moore"--just ain't getting that vibe!! IMO, this is a you scratch mine..................Money is an enticement on either side of the track IMO.Looked it up lost link Sheriff deputies make &16 an hour in that dept.
Topic change: There has been a lot of reference to a lot of them being gainfully employed. The only one I know about is the 11-7 $8.68 an /hr female. Who else? IMI, There is just no way on earth, LE or any other person in this area, can drive by there, and see 15 new high end/performance vehicles all across the front yard , can not have any "idea" what is happening. I think are going to find their activities were "known" by everyone - clearing my throat now -- I mean everyone!. IMO, this is a you scratch mine.. They have supposedly been very active recently in trying to curb the drug issues.. If the FBI came in , and found labs that had clearly been in operation for years I think the FBI might be curious as to how this had not been dismantled. Lost link--looked it up regular deputies make $ 16 an hour in the drpt..................Money is an enticement on either side of the track, IMO
Topic change: Good point about her 911 call being edited. I thought it was strange the first time I heard it that, in a threatening environment , dispatch did not say "stay on the line with me"
Topic change: I also found the child custudy comment by LM most interesting also. Topic change: On another note (!) From tv and movies I think most of us think as suicide by gun is the person "placing" the gun on the head. What happens, (in terms of gun residue) if the individual holds the gun around 20 inches from their head and shoots?
It has crossed my mind that DS just picked up the gun (family pride) and discarded it before calling 911. Have they accounted for his activities before his call? Might be interesting , no Topic change: Another thing that hit me is, thankfully we have no heard of any dead dogs. Think about it - that is in line with not killing the three babies - doggies babies, killer attached to dogs and babies- . It also hit me that this might move over to a female perp (babies/doggies).. I just don't have a visual notion that hit men are sensitive to dogs and babies. Oviouly culprits were enraged - taking the time to "pick" who you are going to slaughter is a sestivity issue.
Topic change: He sure did call the AG pretty quick now didn't he?? Humm would the AG on scene reduce the likelihood of FBI involvement? He called them what in an hour?hummmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Topic change: I think in our minds, the one found by Don , (because we heard about it last) we think it was the last shooting location but actually we know nothing about which house was 1 2 3 4. -.
Topic change: I think they have already found serious labs on the property more than weed. They did not reveal the grow houses until the last second, and I have a feeling they knew a local TV station had found out right before they started the presser . There very cagey, these two.
topic change: Media is doing this too. She found the bodies around 8. Irrelevant IMO! The media then runs with they were killed around 8 in the morning. Noone ever said that, time of shooting. In fact, IMO, if I were gonna do something like this I would go for the wee hours of the morning - like 2-4 under the cover of darkness., not after sunrise.
Topic change: The poster that mentioned "touring" the site was a very hideous word choice hit me like that too. Disney has tours. Murder scenes just don't IMO! I was livid when I found out that yesterday was his first visit to the sites - what has he been doing for the 5 days? Its getting Andy Griffin like with each passing day. I want the FBI.
Topic change: IMO any Le enforcement official, who on worldwide TV, encouraging citizens to arm up is numbing. Have any of us ever heard of LE chief, telling its citizens to "arm up". In this instance the statement becomes more moronic when the mentality stability of everyone in that place could go over the edge at any time. There is well known alcohol and serious drug addiction in the area. Lets throw in depression loss issues, rage, fear,confusion, paranoia of one another, disregard for LE in general and this guy is sanctioning just shoot. Not only is this dangerous IMO, on the global stage, we look like a bunch of armed idiots.
Topic change : When you listen to the first ten seconds of her call there are people talking (yelling) in the background. She was not alone, so LM account IMO has more credibility. It sounded like two people in background - which fits with him and his son rushing over.
Topic change :Anyone think the 911"I fear for my life" call was a diversion - trying to steer LE away?? Can anyone find the entire call. The anchor said it was 8 minutes and it would be on there web page but I could not find it. He claimed he got there license plate, gave a deception of the car etc. But notice there is no f/u??
Topic change : The Sheriffs play on words when asked about LE involvement and the family was BS. He has to know about public records. If that statement is true, then he must be an inept as administrator to have no knowledge that this group of people have been involved with the courts jails , or a word spinster. In reality that was not even the question. The question was paraphrase, have these folks been involved with LE in the area. It was not have you personally arrested anyone from the family.
IMO, we all are powerless. AG stated again yesterday we are going to tell you "what" we are doing but will NEVER discuss what we find out. Period. When did BJ say the dogs were missing- as an explanation for her using the key. Which I found odd in the first place. She was never asked anything like that by the dispatcher, and threw it in at last. The last thing I would thinking is I better tell them I have a key??
