Found Deceased OH - Sierah Joughin, 20, Fulton County, 19 July 2016 #6 *Arrest*

[Ginger8915]

The abuse of the corpse could be because of the way he disposed of tge body. A local funeral home had multiple charges after not properly burying or cremating bodies. It's a vague statute that covers just about anything post mortem.

I'm not saying he didn't do anything post mortem, but it's very possible it was because she was bound and in a shallow grave.

He likely had a "kit" with him that got dumped out in the field, and he was too focused on his plans to gather them. Then getting her out was his main concern. I'd like to believe she never made it to tge barn, but in all likelihood she probably did. He probably went to retrieve his items, saw LE and determined he had to hide her. Can't go North, they are looking, so he went West and South to bury her.

The water bottle with straw and sandwich is what makes me believe she was in the barn. The one pair of regular panties does as well.

I think startling someone with a motorcycle and maybe crowding a lane could make them swerve and crash. This is horrific, and so incredibly scary. Then you factor in reports of craigslist ads.

I believe he is opportunistic, and maybe he had previously used ads to draw people to him. I'm thinking he saw her riding by and maybe was stressed because "stress kills" saw an opportunity and couldn't resist. He wasn't thinking ahead, didn't expect a quick search, and then spun a story.

I'm not sure he directly lies, he said he didn't touch RG sexually, that may have been true. He didn't have a chance because his plan was thwarted.

When he spoke to LE, he may have not "killed her" as of that moment, and related the "I haven't stolen anything" to her bike and phone. I suspect to him women have no value, and did not feel she was "anything". There is another scenario to the I didn't kill anyone, and if the autopsy is released and her cause of death is the same as Neveah Buchanan, well, let's hope it's not. Any scenario is disturbing.

 

[TDW59]

Thank you Otto & I like to Bend Pages!

Your scenario makes perfect sense & answers my questions, Otto.

And that makes sense too ILTBP, since her bike wasn't damaged, I have been skeptical that he bumped into it. the rest does too.

I read thro the 2016 documents very quickly and did not take note of his charges. duh on me!

Now, I am not sure but to be charged with rape, I think that means she was alive for that as it would be a different charge if she were dead. One of those could be the felony 5 of gross abuse of a corpse. His abuse charge is a misdeamenor 3.

More things to look up!

Soopersleuth85, are those charges still marked as pending?

 

[Bravo]

First post aaand the first thing I am going to say is my heart goes out to Ce, her boyfriend and family. I can not imagine how horrific it must be. Also to the folks on here for having such mature and objective discussions.

I think...... that she may have been injured enough to be unaware of what was going on when he took her on the bike, making it easier to transport her. Maybe in all the chaos of the fight, he didnt realize he had killed her. He took her to the barn unaware that she was already deceased. His plans were ruined because he had to fight her much harder than expected, combined with the amazing police work.

:welcome:

 

[elizabeth2679]

Oh and has anyone noticed that when you look up JW in Lucas county inmate search, it only shows him being held on aggravated muder and kidnapping. 2016 warrants say he has additional charges? Is this a error on the part of the jail or has not been charged?

I am trying like mad to catch up -- been an extremely busy work week and unable to sneak a peek in here. But -- this has been my question -- I have seen many references to more charges as well as reading about half of the 2016 docs so far where they state more charges. So someone with more knowledge on this than me --- has he been charged with those additional charges (rape, abuse of a corpse, etc) or are they just listed as possible charges as part of a warrant....?

 

[Notnice26]

Crsr18 need your expertise.
How much more do we have public access to in this case?

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[BoggLed in Ohio]

Does anyone know if there will be additional documents to obtain as the investigation continues? or will everyone be in the dark until the trial? I don't know how this all works ..like say for instance forensics and when they complete looking through his hard drive of the computer They seized... the discoveries they found on that ....will that be published on any documents that can be obtained by the public before a trial or not? I'm just wondering what the remaining follow-ups -how /will that info be relayed ?

 

[Paulas88]

The abuse of the corpse could be because of the way he disposed of tge body. A local funeral home had multiple charges after not properly burying or cremating bodies. It's a vague statute that covers just about anything post mortem.

I'm not saying he didn't do anything post mortem, but it's very possible it was because she was bound and in a shallow grave.

He likely had a "kit" with him that got dumped out in the field, and he was too focused on his plans to gather them. Then getting her out was his main concern. I'd like to believe she never made it to tge barn, but in all likelihood she probably did. He probably went to retrieve his items, saw LE and determined he had to hide her. Can't go North, they are looking, so he went West and South to bury her.

The water bottle with straw and sandwich is what makes me believe she was in the barn. The one pair of regular panties does as well.

I think startling someone with a motorcycle and maybe crowding a lane could make them swerve and crash. This is horrific, and so incredibly scary. Then you factor in reports of craigslist ads.

I believe he is opportunistic, and maybe he had previously used ads to draw people to him. I'm thinking he saw her riding by and maybe was stressed because "stress kills" saw an opportunity and couldn't resist. He wasn't thinking ahead, didn't expect a quick search, and then spun a story.

I'm not sure he directly lies, he said he didn't touch RG sexually, that may have been true. He didn't have a chance because his plan was thwarted.

When he spoke to LE, he may have not "killed her" as of that moment, and related the "I haven't stolen anything" to her bike and phone. I suspect to him women have no value, and did not feel she was "anything". There is another scenario to the I didn't kill anyone, and if the autopsy is released and her cause of death is the same as Neveah Buchanan, well, let's hope it's not. Any scenario is disturbing.

He was charged with rape.

 

[Ginger8915]

I can try, I believe a lot of them go to the Fremont, IN and Angola area, both have had creepy disappearances. 2011 is a long time, but there may be documents through the counties as you have to have a specific route, an escort and permits. I don't know how long they keep those records. Both areas are fairly close to home for him.

As far as the cdl, I went on a previous rant about how Ohio Rehabilitation Programs pay for cdls and training for felons. I'm very against this program for numerous reasons, but if I can actually validate he got his cdl through this program, my reps will be hearing from me.

I'd guess he kept the cdl to drive for farmers. They are exempt from a lot of dot regs during farm season.

 

[Kadoober]

JDW has not been charged with abuse of a corpse. It was used a a basis for the search warrants.

He has been charged with Abduction and Aggravated Murder.

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[otto]

He is charged with rape, and abuse of a corpse, so he raped her after he killed her , and took her somewhere before he buried her?


He might of acted like he was going into her lane and she reacted and ran off the road. But his helmet is off first at what point, to use it as a weapon, and he brought her down with a blow to the head? and he dragged her just far enough in to hide them. This all would of happened fast. He gained control and bound her.

If she was found intact (not dismembered or burned) then it is most likely that he committed necrophilia on Sierah's body, which could mean that he killed her with blows to the head in the cornfield.
Duct tape with both his and Sierah's DNA was found at his property, which suggests that he took her to his property between the abduction and burial. It also suggests that he may have had the duct tape with him at the time of the abduction. If he bound her hands together at the abduction scene, maybe he put her on the back of his bike with her duct taped hands around his chest? Did he duct tape her legs to her bike? Was his bike in the cornfield as well? What was he doing at that time - during the two hours that his phone pinged in the area?

I liked the earlier suggestion about the helmet (from Hatfield?): that he hit her back tire with the front tire of his motorcycle, knocked her into the ditch (just like the 1990 victim), they both lost their sunglasses, he took off his helmet, offered to help, and, when she resisted he dropped the helmet, she perhaps kicked him in the shins, lost a sock in the process as he grabbed her feet to stop her from kicking, so on. That is when he might have hit her in the head with the helmet. A hard enough hit to the head would not only cause a lot of blood, but it could kill.

There's nothing to suggest that he left her in the field while he changed vehicles. I highly doubt that he left all that evidence and the body in a cornfield while he drove 10 miles to change vehicles, and another 5 miles back to his property. Furthermore, police are interested in witnesses who saw a motorcyclist wearing an open face helmet (was visor found at Worley's property?) between 6:30 and 8PM on the night that Sierah was abducted.

 

[Ginger8915]

Isn't one of the local sports teams the Vikings? Evergreen?

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Oh C'mon now, I'm sure they had a truckload of pink mace at Marko's Electronics in 1980something right next to their handcuffs !!!@@

I'm not convinced of that. There was blood on Worley's helmet, and Sierah's blood was found on his motorcycle. With all that blood, I'm doubtful that she had a chance to resist Worley. He had scratches on his arms - most likely from corn stalks, and bruising on his legs - perhaps from colliding his motorcycle into her bicycle.

I suspect that his decision to abduct Sierah was spontaneous and opportunistic. The combined facts that he was on a motorcycle at the time of the abduction, and that it was dusk when he left the abduction scene, made it impossible for him to remove all evidence: bicycle, helmet, etc.

He could literally have victims hidden anywhere. For example, many family farms got split. In the middle if all those fields are woods...you see them out in the middle of the fields 2-3 miles in from the road. The only access routes are farm lanes. The families would get their firewood from there, but also use it as a dumping ground for old stuff, furniture, whatever they would normally have to pay to take to the landfill. You would be surprised what piles of junk are in the woods of NW Ohio. He wouldn't even have had to bury victims...just hide them under so old junk, farm equipment, old cars, etc.

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There were witness reports of a motorcycle in the area at the time she went missing, plus the blood on the motorcyle, and the helmet at the scene. All that is pretty good evidence.

If memory serves, rigor mortis begins about an hour and half afterr death, gradually loosens then further degradation begins. I could be wrong but that is what I have witnessed. Many times also, pardon here, but upon death and often a violent one, there are releases of the other bodily functions as well. This can become very tell-tell

I've been wondering this very time someone posts that they think she died at the attack site. What purpose would it serve moving the body is she was already deceased? He would have had a much better chance of not getting caught if he would have left Sierah at the attack site and just gone home. MOO

JDW has not been charged with abuse of a corpse. It was used a a basis for the search warrants.

He has been charged with Abduction and Aggravated Murder.

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He technically needs indicted first. In the courts he has 2 charges, abduction and murder, he is suspected of the other but not formally charged. They used it to get the warrants. According to Fulton County he has only been charged and arraigned on murder and abduction. They can add any charges and officially arraign him.

 

[kat913]

I can try, I believe a lot of them go to the Fremont, IN and Angola area, both have had creepy disappearances. 2011 is a long time, but there may be documents through the counties as you have to have a specific route, an escort and permits. I don't know how long they keep those records. Both areas are fairly close to home for him.

As far as the cdl, I went on a previous rant about how Ohio Rehabilitation Programs pay for cdls and training for felons. I'm very against this program for numerous reasons, but if I can actually validate he got his cdl through this program, my reps will be hearing from me.

I'd guess he kept the cdl to drive for farmers. They are exempt from a lot of dot regs during farm season.

Thanks Ginger...there is an unidentified woman found in Angola, IN and I will post that in the other thread, Have just started to look at Indiana. Thanks for finding whatever you can.

 

[Elainera]

If she was found intact (not dismembered or burned) then it is most likely that he committed necrophilia on Sierah's body, which could mean that he killed her with blows to the head in the cornfield.
Duct tape with both his and Sierah's DNA was found at his property, which suggests that he took her to his property between the abduction and burial. It also suggests that he may have had the duct tape with him at the time of the abduction. If he bound her hands together at the abduction scene, maybe he put her on the back of his bike with her duct taped hands around his chest? Did he duct tape her legs to her bike? Was his bike in the cornfield as well? What was he doing at that time - during the two hours that his phone pinged in the area?

I liked the earlier suggestion about the helmet (from Hatfield?): that he hit her back tire with the front tire of his motorcycle, knocked her into the ditch (just like the 1990 victim), they both lost their sunglasses, he took off his helmet, offered to help, and, when she resisted he dropped the helmet, she perhaps kicked him in the shins, lost a sock in the process as he grabbed her feet to stop her from kicking, so on. That is when he might have hit her in the head with the helmet. A hard enough hit to the head would not only cause a lot of blood, but it could kill.

There's nothing to suggest that he left her in the field while he changed vehicles. I highly doubt that he left all that evidence and the body in a cornfield while he drove 10 miles to change vehicles, and another 5 miles back to his property. Furthermore, police are interested in witnesses who saw a motorcyclist wearing an open face helmet (was visor found at Worley's property?) between 6:30 and 8PM on the night that Sierah was abducted.

Yes a visor was on the inventory.

Thanks Ginger...there is an unidentified woman found in Angola, IN and I will post that in the other thread, Have just started to look at Indiana. Thanks for finding whatever you can.

She is already on the map.

 

[Ginger8915]

Thanks Ginger...there is an unidentified woman found in Angola, IN and I will post that in the other thread, Have just started to look at Indiana. Thanks for finding whatever you can.

I'll call Williams and Henry counties in Ohio on Monday to see what records they have and how far back. Route 20 is the easiest route. I know your supposed to have a guide vehicle there, but not sure about back.

 

[TDW59]

My heart sinks. If he is charged with rape, then that occurred while she was alive...from Ohio statutes. It is a different charge if necrophilia.

So, as asked above...what about that 2 hours of phone ping at the abduction site?

I just think it would be too risky to transport her on the motorcycle where it could be seen that there were 2 "riders". moo

as to additional documents, in the Theresa Sievers case, many additional documents and records have been released, but I am told Florida has an especially liberal sunshine law.

 

[otto]

Does anyone know if there will be additional documents to obtain as the investigation continues? or will everyone be in the dark until the trial? I don't know how this all works ..like say for instance forensics and when they complete looking through his hard drive of the computer They seized... the discoveries they found on that ....will that be published on any documents that can be obtained by the public before a trial or not? I'm just wondering what the remaining follow-ups -how /will that info be relayed ?

Notsure. Notnice was kind enough to collect the documents we have, and had put in a request for additional documents. It would be very unfortunate if there is no incentive to collect the remaining documents.

 

[Ginger8915]

http://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...rantless-cell-phone-location-tracking/400775/

Interesting snoppet on cell tracking. It's how my phone randomly tells me I'm *advertiser censored* away from work with traffic delays when I've never suscribed. It creeps me out Google knows my schedule and location. If location services are on it knows where you are. The police seem pretty confident in their time line of events unfortunately.

 

[otto]

He was charged with rape.

Perhaps there is evidence of 'rape', but uncertainty as to whether that was pre- or post- mortem, therefore charges of rape and potential charges of abuse to a corpse.

 

[Soopersleuth85]

Regarding the shoe box with the documents and undergarments.....do you all think that he may have only had three or four victims....corresponding with the quantity found...likely "trophies". Would a serial predator not keep a trophy from every victim...and it sounds like his trophies of choice were undergarments. Whats the saying...simple explanation is usually right....

Does anyone read into only one pair of panties having blood on them?? Were the other victims, as someone said, lured in some way to him?

The shoe charm in the basement crawlspace is getting me. How would that have gotten there. Nothing is mentioned aboit SJ having a charm. Took a victim into the house? Creeps........

 

[Willows563]

I've been wondering this very time someone posts that they think she died at the attack site. What purpose would it serve moving the body is she was already deceased? He would have had a much better chance of not getting caught if he would have left Sierah at the attack site and just gone home. MOO

Areed. I also wondered...can someone remind me the time frame when the police first canvassed his house and had contact with them? Was that the following day after she went missing?