GUILTY OR - Brooke Wilberger, 19, Eugene, 24 May 2004 - #2

[Anngelique]

Police still hope to hear from mystery caller

Ryan Gardner/Gazette-Times


‘America's Most Wanted' to air a segment on leads in Wilberger case

By the Gazette-Times

Corvallis police have received more than 75 tips since requesting information about a green minivan possibly linked to the abduction of Brooke Wilberger.

Still no call from Brian, however, said Corvallis Police Capt. Ron Noble.

Police hope to hear from a man named Brian who used a cell phone to call 911 the day Wilberger disappeared.

http://www.gazettetimes.com/articles/2005/06/07/news/community/tueloc02.txt

 

[Anngelique]

http://katu.com/stories/77579.html

Their request came after a letter proposing a violent escape plan and dozens of defaced photos of scantily clad women were found in Kim's cell, lawyers said.

Prosecutors want the 31-year-old man's bail to be increased from $480,000 to $1.32 million.

Kim is charged in Washington County with possessing child *advertiser censored* on a home computer, in addition to the underwear theft charges in Washington, Multnomah, Benton and Yamhill Counties.

According to a police report filed with the bail motion, a deputy at the Multnomah County Detention Center intercepted a letter that Kim gave to his family's attorney during a visit.

The letter outlined several ways Kim's father could help him escape, the jail report states.

"You have my rifles. They are better than anything the police has," Kim wrote, describing how he is transported between various jails by two deputies.

Kim's mother, Dong Kim told The Oregonian that the escape plan was proof of her son's "delusional and deteriorating" thinking, and that he needs mental health counseling, not imprisonment.

Police had also named Kim a suspect in the May, 2004 apparent abduction of 19-year-old Brooke Wilberger near the Oregon State University campus in Corvallis.

But in February, the Wilberger task force removed Kim's name from its "persons of interest" list.

 

[Morag]

Some have mentioned some vague similarities to the Elizabeth Smart case. There is one strong similarity for what it's worth:

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600136317,00.html

"I think most of us as family understand it's been a year, and you almost think that if she is still alive, her condition can't be great, and so I don't know if we almost even want that, but you know, we just want her back," said Hansen. "So I guess it's a closure that we're looking for."

IIRC. one of the Smart family men made a very similar comment about Elizabeth, basically indicating that they would rather her be dead than being held captive (as a sex slave, presumably, or in like conditions) by an evil-doer.

If I could access the Smart threads, I could probably find it, but the sentiment was identical. Wouldn't any parent or relative prefer to get his/her loved one back alive, in whatever condition? Or is the taint of rape too strong for a Mormon family to overlook? (No, I am not anti-LDS, just trying to understand why such remarks are made.)

 

[Anngelique]

Some have mentioned some vague similarities to the Elizabeth Smart case. There is one strong similarity for what it's worth:

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600136317,00.html

"I think most of us as family understand it's been a year, and you almost think that if she is still alive, her condition can't be great, and so I don't know if we almost even want that, but you know, we just want her back," said Hansen. "So I guess it's a closure that we're looking for."

IIRC. one of the Smart family men made a very similar comment about Elizabeth, basically indicating that they would rather her be dead than being held captive (as a sex slave, presumably, or in like conditions) by an evil-doer.

If I could access the Smart threads, I could probably find it, but the sentiment was identical. Wouldn't any parent or relative prefer to get his/her loved one back alive, in whatever condition? Or is the taint of rape too strong for a Mormon family to overlook? (No, I am not anti-LDS, just trying to understand why such remarks are made.)

Being LDS I know that the taint of rape has nothing to do with it. But being a parent I think you would hate your child being victimized or tortured. I know that the Smart's have LOVED having Elizabeth back and I know the LDS community welcomed her back with open arms. If there is anything to do with the LDS faith that would make us view this differently is... leaving earth is not a bad thing. It is sad for us here but it a wonderful thing for those who are back in our heavenly home. They have no more pain, sorrow, sickness, adversity, but only peace and love. I don't think the LDS have the corner market on this sentiment, as I believe most Christian's feel the same way.

 

[Morag]

for your explanation of this. I suppose that many parents might prefer that their child be spared the suffering by entering into the "heavenly home."

 

[annemc2]

Of course, I watched last night, but didn't see anything regarding Brooke's case. Did I miss something? (I was tired!) Or did they maybe postpone it so that they could air footage of a couple of recent captures? I was really eager to see it!

 

[scandi]

Hi Annemc2,

I waited for something on Brooke last night too. I don't think this means AMW isn't working on her case though. Their office is probably helping LE as we speak!



Gee, I got so excited when I saw a new post here. Thought there might be breaaking news. LOL

Scandi

 

[CaliKid]

That was kind of interesting. Last week AMW said they'd be updating Brooke's case last night, and then nothing. The strangest part was that there wasn't anything on last night's AMW that could be considered "breaking" news- no new kidnappings or murders they profiled. Everything was old stuff except the Lake Pontchartraine Jane Doe mystery, and those developments aren't exactly new either. So why nothing about Brooke?

 

[Anngelique]

I hope we hear more about the green van soon!

 

[Timex]

WS is NOT a religious debate forum. Keep the religious debates off of the boards.

 

[mysteriew]

The Corvallis Police Department is dispelling rumors that a green van associated with the Brooke Wilberger disappearance was found in Arizona, giving investigators what they needed to solve the case.

"We've always known where the van was," Corvallis Police Lt. Ron Noble said.

About two weeks ago, the police department began asking for information about a 1997 green Dodge Caravan, possibly connected with Wilberger's disappearance on May 24, 2004. The van is associated with a person of interest in the case.


http://www.gazettetimes.com/articles/2005/06/17/news/community/friloc03.txt

 

[annemc2]

Brooke's case is coming on to AMW next (West Coasters)!

Well, no new info, really. They did a good job. Still looking for the mysterious "Brian." I don't understand how they have a POI and know the whereabouts of the van but are still looking for people that saw it on that particular day (5/24/04). Brooke is such a beautiful girl, so full of life. It was really, really strange to see our little town on AMW. Hopefully this will help move things along with the investigation.

 

[RobertStJames]

Brooke's case is coming on to AMW next (West Coasters)!

Well, no new info, really. They did a good job. Still looking for the mysterious "Brian." I don't understand how they have a POI and know the whereabouts of the van but are still looking for people that saw it on that particular day (5/24/04). Brooke is such a beautiful girl, so full of life. It was really, really strange to see our little town on AMW. Hopefully this will help move things along with the investigation.

Because LE isn't interested in where the van is *now*. They want to know if anyone saw it on May 24th, 2004. If you look closely at the crime scene pictures I took, you'll see a dark green van with tinted windows with mud on its wheels. Wrong make, but one incredible coincidence, no?

LE is looking very, very hard at someone. They do not want to say who it is, and KATU and the rest of the news people aren't getting info via their usual sources. To me, that says "insider" and someone other than a known perp, someone important, someone LE cannot afford to publicly name as POI if they cannot back that up.

There is no "Brian." There never was. There was, however, a green van north of Corvallis, and that is what LE is interested in. That green van all but certainly belongs to someone in that complex.

AMW is a real disappointment. It's the People Magazine of true crime. I want to see the 48hrs guys do a segment on this case. They might ask some questions like why Brooke's sister absolutely refuses to talk to the press.


RstJ
www.thebushyhairedstranger.com

 

[Anngelique]

Because LE isn't interested in where the van is *now*. They want to know if anyone saw it on May 24th, 2004. If you look closely at the crime scene pictures I took, you'll see a dark green van with tinted windows with mud on its wheels. Wrong make, but one incredible coincidence, no?

LE is looking very, very hard at someone. They do not want to say who it is, and KATU and the rest of the news people aren't getting info via their usual sources. To me, that says "insider" and someone other than a known perp, someone important, someone LE cannot afford to publicly name as POI if they cannot back that up.

There is no "Brian." There never was. There was, however, a green van north of Corvallis, and that is what LE is interested in. That green van all but certainly belongs to someone in that complex.

AMW is a real disappointment. It's the People Magazine of true crime. I want to see the 48hrs guys do a segment on this case. They might ask some questions like why Brooke's sister absolutely refuses to talk to the press.


RstJ
www.thebushyhairedstranger.com

The van in the picture is definitely a coincidence as it has nothing to do with the case as it is the wrong make and model. Do you have any idea how popular green vans are? In fact I had a green Dodge Mini-van right before I bought my Suburban. My neighbor down the street has a green mini-van. Is this coincidence that I had one and my neighbor had one? Just because a green mini-van is in the parking lot does not mean there is anything strange in the least.

AMW does a GREAT job at finding people and criminals.

Why don't you personally contact Brooke's sister and ask her yourself why she does not speak out and while you are at it, tell her you suspect her husband for the disappearance of Brooke. I think that is the only way you will find peace with this case, to personally ask the family themselves. Would you like me to get their phone number for you?

 

[CaliKid]

Robert, with all due respect, you seem to have an axe to grind against Brooke's family, especially her brother-in-law? Do you factually know something that LE doesn't? If so, maybe you should contact them.

 

[RobertStJames]

The van in the picture is definitely a coincidence as it has nothing to do with the case as it is the wrong make and model. Do you have any idea how popular green vans are? In fact I had a green Dodge Mini-van right before I bought my Suburban. My neighbor down the street has a green mini-van. Is this coincidence that I had one and my neighbor had one? Just because a green mini-van is in the parking lot does not mean there is anything strange in the least.

AMW does a GREAT job at finding people and criminals.

Why don't you personally contact Brooke's sister and ask her yourself why she does not speak out and while you are at it, tell her you suspect her husband for the disappearance of Brooke. I think that is the only way you will find peace with this case, to personally ask the family themselves. Would you like me to get their phone number for you?

Yes. Please do. Stephani Hansen. Zak Hansen. They live in Corvallis. And please don't give me their old phone number, as I'm sure you're well aware that they've moved since the "abduction."



RstJ

 

[RobertStJames]

Robert, with all due respect, you seem to have an axe to grind against Brooke's family, especially her brother-in-law? Do you factually know something that LE doesn't? If so, maybe you should contact them.

I know there was a dark green metallic van with tinted windows and mud on its wheels parked about 10ft from the lamppost Brooke was supposedly cleaning the day she vanished. But LE already knows who that van belongs to. They've known for a long time.

If you want to go on blindly supporting them, fine. Me, I'd like some answers. Answers that are not forthcoming by pursuing some mystery abductor who doesn't exist.


RstJ

 

[KrazyKollector]

I know there was a dark green metallic van with tinted windows and mud on its wheels parked about 10ft from the lamppost Brooke was supposedly cleaning the day she vanished. But LE already knows who that van belongs to. They've known for a long time.

If you want to go on blindly supporting them, fine. Me, I'd like some answers. Answers that are not forthcoming by pursuing some mystery abductor who doesn't exist.


RstJ

So, does this dark green, metallic van with mud on it's wheels belong to Stephanie and/or Zak Hansen?
If not, who does it belong to?

I'm confused.

 

[RobertStJames]

So, does this dark green, metallic van with mud on it's wheels belong to Stephanie and/or Zak Hansen?
If not, who does it belong to?

I'm confused.

I have no idea who it belongs to. However, that apartment complex has assigned parking. So it's a very good bet that it belongs to someone who lived there at the time.

As someone pointed out, there are a lot of green vans around. A lot of metallic green vans. And the one in my picture is an Aerostar, not a Dodge Caravan.

But the fact its parked so close to the lamppost she disappeared from four days after she was last seen and that it is a very, very close match to the van LE wants to know about very strongly suggests to me that it is *that* van they are interested in. In particular, where the van was on May 24th. If whoever parked in that space was the one who grabbed her, he wouldn't have to haul her very far and the van itself would block a clear view from almost all apartments.

However, this does not explain how her flip-flops got far enough out in the parking lot to be run over by trucks. That part I think is staging.


RstJ



RstJ

 

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