Found Deceased PA - Linda Stoltzfoos, 18, Bird-in-Hand, Lancaster County, 21 June 2020 *arrest* #2

[crhedBngr]

Thank you Daisy1980 very useful and informative link. They found stockings (presumably her's) tied in a knot.

RBBM

A question, please, for one of our Amish posters - do Amish typically tie their socks into a knot when going barefoot in the summer?

I don't like where my mind is going with this . . .

TIA.

 

[MsMac]

And why was he looking in the window?

Yes. My question, too. And where was he when the business owner took pics of the car interior?

 

[crhedBngr]

And why was he looking in the window?

Maybe he was worried about being observed when he buried her clothing.

JMVHO.

 

[Curiosity1234]

The affidavit under #21 mentions "would be tied in a knot for her to carry as she walked barefooted home" but that seems like an assumption unless the girl who last saw her says so....which is not specifically mentioned. Side note, that girl who saw her last, I can't even imagine.

They could' have been tied in a knot while she was walking home. I just go by what I read, it's just my way. Oh, I know the girl who saw her last must be sad.

 

[Blue Ridge]

Thank you, ScrappyCat!

Ok.. so I drove by the garage about an hour ago. The road is no longer closed like it was yesterday, but the Stoltzsfoos property has cones blocking their driveway, presumably to stop people from “turning around” on their property.

There is a black extension cord with plug hanging over the middle bay BUT there is a white object that looks like a camera mounted in the right hand corner of the garage that is not in any of the satellite imaging. Here’s a close up of where it is located currently but absent from pictures. I couldn’t stop to get a picture because there was some kind of utility working in the area. I didn’t get a great look, but it was something similar to what is pictured in the attached photo.

 

[Curiosity1234]

If Amish women do not wear black hair coverings to church, then why was Linda wearing one, and where did it come from?
Could it be she wrapped the dark stockings around her head and tied them in a knot to show a sign she was in trouble?
Something's not adding up here.

Good old Rocky1 thinking outside the box. That's a real possibility.

 

[Rocky1]

RBBM

A question, please, for one of our Amish posters - do Amish typically tie their socks into a knot when going barefoot in the summer?

I don't like where my mind is going with this . . .

TIA.

Are you thinking he may have used the stockings for ligature strangulation?

 

[MsMac]

Yes. My question, too. And where was he when the business owner took pics of the car interior?

If it were my business I would have kept a close eye on someone looking in my windows. He didn't see him go off and dig a hole? Instead he hung out in the parking lot and took pictures of the inside of the car? Not accusing the business owner of anything, just questioning what the heck was going through his mind!!

 

[Coppertop15]

If Amish women do not wear black hair coverings to church, then why was Linda wearing one, and where did it come from?
Could it be she wrapped the dark stockings around her head and tied them in a knot to show a sign she was in trouble?
Something's not adding up here.

Black covering would be consistent with a young girl's church clothes in Lancaster.

 

[Hereshecomes75]

If Amish women do not wear black hair coverings to church, then why was Linda wearing one, and where did it come from?
Could it be she wrapped the dark stockings around her head and tied them in a knot to show a sign she was in trouble?
Something's not adding up here.

Each church district has slightly different customs. In Linda’s district, unmarried women wear black coverings to church only and white all the rest of the time. In other districts like the one the people on Amish Road must belong to, black coverings aren’t a thing for anyone. It’s white coverings all the time. So the Amish Road people knew this woman was from a different area from them. Sounds like when they realized there was a missing girl they put 2 and 2 together to realize what they saw.

 

[Rocky1]

Yes. My question, too. And where was he when the business owner took pics of the car interior?

And why only bury those two articles of clothing, and not the rest?

 

[crhedBngr]

Are you thinking he may have used the stockings for ligature strangulation?

Possibly. Unfortunately.

JMVHO.

Bras have also been used to strangle people.

Man strangles girlfriend with bra, police say

Russian woman strangles neighbour with bra

The fact that both of these clothing articles were buried together, and not with any other clothing, makes me speculate. However, we have no proof she was strangled, at this time.

Again, my speculation only.

 

[Mind your biscuits]

Maybe after abducting her he hid her somewhere, then on his way home he realized that he still had her clothes and needed to dispose of them. Moo.

 

[Rocky1]

Black covering would be consistent with a young girl's church clothes in Lancaster.

Okay, thank you.
That explains why the people that spotted her found it odd that someone would be in a car traveling to or from church, with black being church clothes.

 

[Rocky1]

Maybe after abducting her he hid her somewhere, then on his way home he realized that he still had her clothes and needed to dispose of them. Moo.

That may very well be, but why not bury them all together at the same time?

 

[Hereshecomes75]

And why only bury those two articles of clothing, and not the rest?

I know. Why a bra and stockings? Where’s the rest? I wonder if they both have blood or other bodily fluid, one has blood/fluid, or neither has blood/fluid. Just trying to think why he might have chosen those two items to hide on Harvest Rd. Since they have his car, maybe something in there indicated that Linda had been harmed, and the clothing doesn’t.

 

[crhedBngr]

That may very well be, but why not bury them all together at the same time?

Yep. I have that question as well.

 

[Curiosity1234]

Are you thinking he may have used the stockings for ligature strangulation?

• Difficult to choose like on this one. I thought they may have been used for strangulation (not easy to digest the details). I wonder if something about the stockings told LE she was strangled and that's where the reference "believed to have been harmed" came from.

 

[Rocky1]

Possibly. Unfortunately.

JMVHO.

Bras have also been used to strangle people.

Man strangles girlfriend with bra, police say

Russian woman strangles neighbour with bra

Now that I know Amish women wear black hair coverings to church, and she wouldn't have used her stockings for a hair covering, I'm starting to lean that way too.
I've gone barefoot many times, and I always put one sock in each of my shoes. I've never tied them in a knot. But then again, many tie them together when they are washed so she may have done it out of habit. Mine are always folded one into the other, not tied in a knot, after they are washed.

 

[Hereshecomes75]

RBBM

A question, please, for one of our Amish posters - do Amish typically tie their socks into a knot when going barefoot in the summer?

I don't like where my mind is going with this . . .

TIA.

I don’t know. I’m assuming these stockings are like black knee highs, made out of pantyhose material, based on what I’ve seen Amish women wearing when they must dress up. Some people tie pairs of those in a loose knot just to keep the pair together—others put the tops together and fold them down. She might have stuffed them in a shoe so as not to lose them as she walked. But there would definitely be a difference between a knot you’d tie to keep your knee highs in a pair and a knot someone would tie to use them as a ligature or restraint. Or gag, I guess :/