YellowDog
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I agree about the missing link(s). Did he do this, or just telling another bizarre story that's what someone wants to hear. If he did, what sets him off, etc. Like you say, he could rob her without killing her. I don't think there's any way at this stage that we can know if he has some kind of episodes he can't control (whether blackouts, disoriented episodes, psychotic episodes, flashbacks, or whatever) or if he gets delirious from drugs or lack of sleep or mania and thinks a situation is something that it's not, or if he has some kind of misplaced self-defense reaction to some stimuli due to experiences in his life.....or if he has a panic sort of thing or rage thing when put in certain situations. Or some killers are obsessive compulsive, they have a compulsion to do certain bizarre things. Of course some are schizophrenic and hear voices telling them "Kill so and so before she kills you!"..... No telling. Could be steroids...who knows. Elbowing someone in the nose is kind of unusual isn't it, most of us would probably not think to do that move even to defend ourselves, it seems more like a trained fighting technique, doesn't it, or something someone might do who was used to being jumped on a lot and having to defend themselves. Wonder where he picked that up (if it even happened like that). It seems like it would almost be easier to hit someone in the nose with your elbow by accident than on purpose IMO
And why do it? What would be the purpose for hitting someone in the nose with his elbow? If you're going to rob, just rob, if you're going to kill, just kill, but why that? Doesn't make any sense so far does it
Talking about the wijn (I mean wine) in P DeVries face (told you guys I'd been watching too many of those Dutch media clips), and Joran's comments to P DeVries, as well as Joran's comments regarding being interrogated "rudely" in Peru, being treated rudely seems to not sit well with him, that's true.
The wine throwing incident was interesting. Joran is actually polite and well spoken in interviews, maybe he was held to hard standards himself when he was a child and can't handle other people being rude. The challenging way he called PDeVries on his comments in the wine-throwing interview was interesting. When he asked him "When it turns out your accusations against me are wrong, are you going to apologize then, would you be man enough to do that?" And DeVries said "Yes I would" and Joran snapped right back immediately, "I don't think so." The quickness of his response, it was a little charming and funny as well as insulting and dismissive, and also kind of like trying to provoke a fight. Anyway, puzzling. He seems to really dislike rudeness.
Maybe she caught him going through her purse, tried to take it away from him, he shoved her back with his elbow hitting her in the face. He's a big, strong looking guy and could have packed quite a wallop with his elbow.