POI: Carman Monaco, Jr.

[WINDSOR]

Inspctrgadget,

Thank you so much for the explanations. I also am a strong believer that 'best indication of what someone will do in the future is what they have done in the past'.

I now understand that if you separate SG from the other cases, Monaco begins to look very much like a strong POI.

As sort of an explanation, I have always concentrated of the SG case and believed somehow that there was linkage to the other bodies/cases.

I am not prepared to accept yet, that SG died accidently, but I can accept her case is not related to the others.


Keep up the good work.

 

[Dwntwnslim]

IMHO, inspctrgadget has presented a well researched and plausible theory. IMO, it would be a mistake to ignore this theory.

 

[inspctrgadget]

OK, I got this back today from the Nassau County probation department. In short, my FOIL request to the probation department was denied. I'm still waiting on my FOIL request to the Nassau County Police Dept, but I'm not holding my breath.

If anyone has any experience in getting access to court or police records, please help.

I'm interested in seeing (at least) the charging documents and police reports for Carman Monaco Jr. These should be public information since the case was fully adjudicated. I believe the case was processed in Nassau County 1st District Court. I'm not sure if we need to FOIL the police or the Clerk of the Court. I'm also not sure if court records are covered under FOIL or some other law. Anyone with legal experience, please chime in.

Date of arrest: Aug 26, 2004
First District Court Judge Margaret Reilly (set bail)
Date of Sentencing: May 18, 2005 (I think)

Here's the link to the Nassau County FOIL website:
http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/FOIL/index.php

Here was my response:

Please be advised that material gathered in preparation of a Probation Report is deemed strictly confidential, pursuant to the statutes and regulations, hereinafter listed, and cannot be released without an Order of the Court, for which the Report was prepared.

The Pre-Sentence Reports and case records of the Nassau County Probation Department are deemed strictly confidential, and not subject to disclosure, pursuant to NYS Criminal Procedure Law Section 390.50; NYS Public Officer Law Sections 87, 89 and 96; NYS Family Court Act Section 750; NYS Public Health Law Sections 2135, 2782, 2785, 2805-m, 3371 and 3373; NYS Mental Hygiene Law Section 33.13; and 9 NYCRR 369. Access to Pre-Sentence Report is available only at the time of sentencing, pursuant to an appeal, or pursuant to an Order of the Sentencing Court. Consequently, without such an Order from the Sentencing Court, this Department is unable, at this time, to comply with your request.

In order for you to obtain a copy of the Report and/or case record, you would have to make application through a formal Motion to the County, City, District Court or Family, in Nassau County, that has jurisdiction over the record, for a Court Order directing that the report and/or be made available to you. You must serve copies of any said Motions on both this Department and for a criminal record on the District Attorney’s Office.

 

[Dwntwnslim]

@ inspctrgadget-

Sorry to hear about your FOIL request. Could the fact that the reports you were trying get are sealed mean anything? Like maybe Monaco is being investigated for something?

If you look up in the "Sticky" section of this forum there is a "Professional Posters" link that will take you to a list of several lawyers and one paralegal that have been vetted by Websleuths. Maybe you could try contacting one of them for advice? Just a thought.

 

[WhiteLilly]

Why do you keep referring to Meaghan Waterman's mother as Ela Waterman?

Her LAST name is Ela. Her FIRST name is Lorraine.

 

[inspctrgadget]

@ inspctrgadget-

Sorry to hear about your FOIL request. Could the fact that the reports you were trying get are sealed mean anything? Like maybe Monaco is being investigated for something?

If you look up in the "Sticky" section of this forum there is a "Professional Posters" link that will take you to a list of several lawyers and one paralegal that have been vetted by Websleuths. Maybe you could try contacting one of them for advice? Just a thought.

Thanks Dwntwnslim. This is exactly what I needed. I'll let everyone know how it works.

By the way, if anyone is from Long Island and can get to a library, particularly to a Suffolk County or the Patchogue Medford library, see if you can find any articles related to Carman Monaco Jr.'s arrest on August 26, 2004. Here's the local Suffolk paper: http://www.longislandadvance.net/

Carman was arrested in Nassau County, so if anyone can think of local papers other than Newsday where they may have done some actual thorough reporting, let us know.

I also found this at my library from an old Newsday article (I'll abridge the article and only include new info so I don't have to copy everything":

- "Monaco...works at a trucking company...lives with his mother and brothers...

- "hundreds of sexually suggestive calls and death threats"

- "used public phones in Nassau, Suffolk, Manhattan, Queens and Brooklyn to make the calls."

- had a sexual agenda," said Second Squad commander Det. Lt. Steven Skrynecki.

- didn't have a prior criminal or psychiatric record.

- made calls in waves since 1996, persisting for one or two months at a time, taking a break then starting again

- ...Monaco's younger brother Michael, who runs a prescription delivery service, said he last spoke to him two days ago. Michael, who said he moved out of the family home to Shirley two years ago, said, "I'm surprised at what he did."

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Great job inspectr! Keep going!

BTW, do we know where CM,Jr worked from 2007 to present? Is he still a trucker?

An adult still living with Mother and brothers? Anger issues with women? Hmmm....MOO

wm

 

[inspctrgadget]

Great job inspectr! Keep going!

BTW, do we know where CM,Jr worked from 2007 to present? Is he still a trucker?

An adult still living with Mother and brothers? Anger issues with women? Hmmm....MOO

wm

Well, I believe he worked for Hub Trucks in 2007 because the case I've copied below was originally filed in 2007. As you see, the same lawyer that represented Hub Trucks represented Carman Monaco Jr. I assume this is a personal injury lawsuit as the result of a traffic accident in the Bronx.

I've copied another case that shows a home foreclosure in 2009. I assume this is for 14 Pine Gate.

If you get arrested and are ordered to complete psychiatric counseling, which Carman was, it is not uncommon that your employer will NOT have grounds to fire you. Being that Carman had a public defender, its possible that he was able to keep his job as a delivery driver. However, since Hub Trucks doesn't seem to be in the business of providing drivers (only rent trucks) I am assuming that he worked as something like a "truck pickup" type job, where he would get trucks to where they needed to be and return them to the Hub Trucks shop. Now, Davis Transporation who is also listed in the same lawsuit DOES provide truck drivers, but I think this was just a multi-vehicle accident.


From:
http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcivil/FCASSearch
http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcivilLocal/LCSearch


Here's the info:

Case#1
Court: Bronx County Civil Court
Index Number: TS-300302-07/BX
Case Name: COSS, SUSANNA vs. PENA, JOSE A. DAVIS TRANSPORTATION CO., MONACO JR., CARMAN HUB TRUCK RENTAL CORPORATION MONACO JR, CARMAN HUB TRUCK RENTAL CORPORATION vs. PENA, JOSE A. DAVIS TRANSPORTATION CO.
Case Type: Supreme Court Transfer
Classification: General
Filing Date: 05/22/2007
Disposition Date: 07/08/2009
Calendar Number:
Jury Demand: No
Judge Name:

Attorney/Firm(s) For Plaintiff - SUSANNA COSS:
MICHAEL QUINTANA Attorney Type: Firm
179 COURT ST.
BROOKLYN, New York 11201-
(718)845-1886


Attorney/Firm(s) For 3rd Party Plaintiff - HUB TRUCK RENTAL CORPORATION:
Carlucci & Giardina LLP Attorney Type: Firm
11 East 44th Street, Suite 901
New York, New York 10017-
(646) 865-1590 ext:


Attorney/Firm(s) For 3rd Party Plaintiff - CARMAN MONACO JR:
Carlucci & Giardina LLP Attorney Type: Firm
11 East 44th Street, Suite 901
New York, New York 10017-
(646) 865-1590 ext:


Attorney/Firm(s) For Defendant - JOSE A. PENA:

Attorney/Firm(s) For Defendant - DAVIS TRANSPORTATION CO.,:

Attorney/Firm(s) For Defendant - CARMAN MONACO JR.:
Carlucci & Giardina LLP Attorney Type: Firm
11 East 44th Street, Suite 901
New York, New York 10017-
(646) 865-1590 ext:


Attorney/Firm(s) For Defendant - HUB TRUCK RENTAL CORPORATION:
Carlucci & Giardina LLP Attorney Type: Firm
11 East 44th Street, Suite 901
New York, New York 10017-
(646) 865-1590 ext:


Attorney/Firm(s) For 3rd Party Defendant - JOSE A. PENA:

Attorney/Firm(s) For 3rd Party Defendant - DAVIS TRANSPORTATION CO.:



Case #2:

Court: Suffolk Civil Supreme
Index Number: 045468/2008
Case Name: COUNTRYWIDE HOME LOANS vs. MONACO, CARMAN, JR.,
Case Type: Foreclosure
Track: Standard
RJI Filed: 05/06/2009
Date NOI Due:
NOI Filed:
Disposition Date:
Calendar Number:
Jury Status:
Justice Name: JEFFREY ARLEN SPINNER

Attorney/Firm For Plaintiff:
ROSICKI, ROSICKI & ASSOCIATES Attorney Type: Attorney Of Record Atty. Status: Active
51 EAST BETHPAGE ROAD
PLAINVIEW, NY 11803
516-741-2585

Attorney/Firm For Defendant:
CARMAN MONACO, JR. - Prose Attorney Type: Pro se Atty. Status: Inactive Inactive Date: 06/05/2009


CHRISTOPHER MONACO - Prose Attorney Type: Pro se Atty. Status: Inactive Inactive Date: 06/05/2009


MERS, INC. - Prose Attorney Type: Pro se Atty. Status: Inactive Inactive Date: 06/05/2009


COUNTRYWIDE HOME LOANS - Prose Attorney Type: Pro se Atty. Status: Inactive Inactive Date: 06/05/2009


NEW YORK STATE TAX DEPT. Attorney Type: Attorney Of Record Atty. Status: Active
400 OAK STREET, STE 102
GARDEN CITY, NY 11530
(516) 542-5432

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Just looking at the dates for possible stressors that could set this guy off.

Case #1 disposition date (I guess this is when he was deposed?) is 4 (there's that # again) days before Melissa Barthelemy disappeared on 7-12-09.

The Filing date was 5-22-07. Maureen Brainerd Barnes disappeared on July 9, 2007.

Case #2 filed 5-6-09.

Inactive date 6-5-09. Forgive my ignorance but what is an 'inactive date'? Megan Waterman disappeared almost one year to the day on 6-6-10.

wm

 

[inspctrgadget]

Check this out:

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_12/b3976065.htm

It is possible that this employee was Carman Monaco Jr.

Why do I think he worked for Fresh Direct (http://www.freshdirect.com)?

Here's why: http://www.courts.state.ny.us/reporter/3dseries/2011/2011_01630.htm

FreshDirect leases refrigerated trucks from Hub Truck Rental.

I'd bet FreshDirect receives many of their products (nuts, produce, etc.) in huge jute gunny bags (burlap) from local farmers and wholesalers. The then process these at their processing operations facility in Long Island City.

Now, as far as the press release goes, please note that this was written and released by a corporation that was publicizing their services. I know that many times these can be fudged to make them sound better. So where the press release says that the employee was stalking a customer, I think its just as likely that the employee was stalking someone else (i.e., News 12 Long Island). The timing (late 2004) sure fits. The questions that I have are:

1) Was this Carman Monaco Jr.?
2) Does the FreshDirect company use or dispose of burlap bags as part of their operations?

Take this post with a grain of salt. Not sure if this was indeed Carman.

 

[inspctrgadget]

Just looking at the dates for possible stressors that could set this guy off.

Case #1 disposition date (I guess this is when he was deposed?) is 4 (there's that # again) days before Melissa Barthelemy disappeared on 7-12-09.

The Filing date was 5-22-07. Maureen Brainerd Barnes disappeared on July 9, 2007.

Case #2 filed 5-6-09.

Inactive date 6-5-09. Forgive my ignorance but what is an 'inactive date'? Megan Waterman disappeared almost one year to the day on 6-6-10.

wm

Disposition is when the case was settled. So the lawyers were probably going back and forth with settlement offers just in advance of when the case would go to trial.

Inactive date: Carman and his brother were representing themselves. That's what "pro se" means. They probably filed some paperwork that gave them pro se status until that date, after which their ability to represent themselves expired.

RJI stands for request for judicial intervention.

I'm not sure if this was adjudicated or if they were able to come up with the money and keep the house.

 

[inspctrgadget]

Check this out:

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_12/b3976065.htm

It is possible that this employee was Carman Monaco Jr.

Why do I think he worked for Fresh Direct (http://www.freshdirect.com)?

Here's why: http://www.courts.state.ny.us/reporter/3dseries/2011/2011_01630.htm

FreshDirect leases refrigerated trucks from Hub Truck Rental.

I'd bet FreshDirect receives many of their products (nuts, produce, etc.) in huge jute gunny bags (burlap) from local farmers and wholesalers. The then process these at their processing operations facility in Long Island City.

Now, as far as the press release goes, please note that this was written and released by a corporation that was publicizing their services. I know that many times these can be fudged to make them sound better. So where the press release says that the employee was stalking a customer, I think its just as likely that the employee was stalking someone else (i.e., News 12 Long Island). The timing (late 2004) sure fits. The questions that I have are:

1) Was this Carman Monaco Jr.?
2) Does the FreshDirect company use or dispose of burlap bags as part of their operations?

Take this post with a grain of salt. Not sure if this was indeed Carman.

OK, scratch the above post about Carman working for FreshDirect. It's disproven. I found the following:

METROPOLITAN DESK
Metro Briefing | New York: Manhattan: Deliveryman Charged With Stalking

Published: October 8, 2004, Friday

A deliveryman for the online grocer FreshDirect was charged yesterday with stalking and harassing five female customers — two of them eight months pregnant — by using threats of sexual violence. Prosecutors said Erik Reynolds, 33, of Manhattan, admitted that he had taken telephone numbers and addresses from the order forms of FreshDirect customers and used the information to harass East Side women during the past three weeks. An assistant district attorney, Duncan Levin, said at Mr. Reynolds’s arraignment in Criminal Court that the suspect, a FreshDirect driver since July, called pregnant customer two weeks ago and told her, ”I’m going to come up and rape you” Mr. Levin said Mr. Reynolds was caught after one of the women allowed the police to monitor her phone and trace the calls.

Published: 10 – 08 – 2004 , Late Edition – Final , Section B , Column 4 , Page 5

 

[inspctrgadget]

Can someone find out how to get the original court filing (the plaintiff's complaint) for the Hub Truck Rental case?

I think this will clear up what Carman did for work at the time. I made some assumptions, but I'd like to know for sure.

 

[Just K]

Wow, that Fresh Direct case exemplifies the type of job that gives freaks access to personal information. Chances are good that the employee served little to no time for threats/harassment and stalking. Yet, that is the exact type of person who escalates.

 

[Aleph]

For those who are into Monaco as a suspect:

Monaco made hundreds of harassing phone calls to one person. To me, that suggests someone who is wildly out of control. As we know, the killer of the GB4 also likes to make phone calls, but he made only a few and he was careful how he did it. It seems to me that these are distinctly different styles, serving different needs. They suggest different personalities to me, in the same way that the Manorville killings and the GB4 do (but less so, and that's another kettle of fish).

Granted, a lot of time passed between the Manorville discoveries and the Gilgo Beach murders, but if you're a hundreds-of-phone-calls-making person, how much do you change in one decade?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

FWIW, I am not convinced that Manorville and GB are connected (in fact, I lean towards then not being connected), but I do find Monaco a viable suspect for Manorville.

Keep up the good work, Inspectr.

 

[inspctrgadget]

For those who are into Monaco as a suspect:

Monaco made hundreds of harassing phone calls to one person. To me, that suggests someone who is wildly out of control. As we know, the killer of the GB4 also likes to make phone calls, but he made only a few and he was careful how he did it. It seems to me that these are distinctly different styles, serving different needs. They suggest different personalities to me, in the same way that the Manorville killings and the GB4 do (but less so, and that's another kettle of fish).

Granted, a lot of time passed between the Manorville discoveries and the Gilgo Beach murders, but if you're a hundreds-of-phone-calls-making person, how much do you change in one decade?

Monaco targeted 3 different women and one male from 1996 to 2004. Monaco was careful to place these calls from payphones in the city, demonstrating a rational fear of apprehension.

The serial killer made: 7 calls to Amanda, 30 calls to Terry and 1 call to MBB's cell phone (total of 38) over 1 year 2008-2009.

So, if you look at the average, Monaco made an average of 37.5 calls per year. The serial killer made an average of 38 calls per year.

 

[dcgrumpy]

Monaco targeted 3 different women and one male from 1996 to 2004. Monaco was careful to place these calls from payphones in the city, demonstrating a rational fear of apprehension.

The serial killer made: 7 calls to Amanda, 30 calls to Terry and 1 call to MBB's cell phone (total of 38) over 1 year 2008-2009.

So, if you look at the average, Monaco made an average of 37.5 calls per year. The serial killer made an average of 38 calls per year.

Who is Terry?

 

[inspctrgadget]

Here's some more info about the calls:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/10/phone-young-teen-biggest-lead-search-long-island-killer/

The killer always phoned in the evenings, spoke briefly and in a low voice -- and only to Amanda. He calmly spewed taunts and allegations. He sent text messages.

"He wouldn't talk to anybody but her," said Lynn Barthelemy, who documented the barrage in a journal she gave police. "One time I answered, and he hung up as soon as he heard my voice."

Cops began to triangulate the phone, pinpointing the caller's location to Times Square, Madison Square Garden and Massapequa, a short drive from Gilgo Beach. They showed Melissa's picture around at strip clubs. Did her murderer work in Midtown and commute from Long Island?

The girls were close, and their family wondered: Had the killer gotten a glimpse of Amanda, who twice came to stay with Melissa?

"When Amanda went down there, the first thing they did was to get a manicure and pedicure," said their mom. "They went to the zoo and the Statue of Liberty."

But the sister did not recall anyone who might have been a suspect.

The calls abruptly stopped in August 2009 after a Buffalo TV station revealed their existence.

 

[inspctrgadget]

Who is Terry?

Johnny Terry is Melissa Barthelemy's boyfriend and/or pimp.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...tims-secret-life.html?cid=hp:beastoriginalsL9

From the article:

Other numbers were traced to throwaway phones purchased in Manhattan. One of the phones was linked to the name Mickey Mouse.

Around the same time, Terry said he began to get his own taunting phone calls. His calls were from a "white guy," he said.

"He was threatening me," recalled Terry. "He said, you like to do some crazy stuff with Melissa, I know where you be at. Most of the time he seemed to be drunk. He knew who I was. He knew I had tattoos on my back. Maybe he felt [Melissa] was doing something he didn't like."

Terry said the anonymous caller called him more than 30 times over a period of eight months. He said he reported the calls to the cops. Months later, Terry said, he was approached by the police again, but this time not as a suspect. They wanted to know about the john on Long Island. They asked if he could describe the house and if he could pick it out if he was taken there. He said he could.

"They already knew about the guy in Long Island," he said. "I said if they come to get me I would go. They didn't come."