BirdieBoo
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Seeker said:I wasn't attacking you, just asking you some very valid questions to try and understand your pov since you said your mind was not made up until you read the apology. If you think asking you some questions (less agressive than the ones you asked LinasK) was an attack then you might want to reasses the ones you asked LinasK (a victim of rape).
Nope, I don't watch b-ball at all, could care less about him personally. I read the court docs, all of them.
If you haven't followed the case closely then you may have missed where it was reported by her friends (that were there) about the party in the bar where she was giggling about this encounter. I don't have a link offhand, but if I come across it again I'll put it up for you.
And no, even that site you listed doesn't say that right after a rape that women try to have normal sexual relations right after. Look at it again, it says months, not within hours...
I have worked with women who have been raped, not one of them had sex immediately after they were attacked either. Only one other person on this board posted almost the exact same thing...it simply doesn't ring true. Not to the victims of rape, and not to those of us who actually have worked with real rape victims.
I've never, ever come across a real rape victim that went out within hours of being violently raped to have sex with anyone, even a hubby or long term bf! Speaking of that...
The AV's ex-bf refused to give DNA samples to be compared to the sperm found inside her body after the alleged rape. If he hadn't had sex with her why refuse to give a DNA sample?
Read the court docs, they are very informative and they are from both sides.
else. Neither have any of these organizations.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/rape.html
http://www.hopeforhealing.org/
http://www.rapecrisis.org.za/
http://www.ncptsd.org/facts/disasters/fs_foa_handout.html
http://www.actabuse.com/psycho-reactions.html
http://www.ncptsd.org/publications/...l?printable=yes
http://www.911rape.com/impact/
I am not saying nothing happened, I'm saying something doesn't smell right about this case. I think both of them were lying to some degree. She never told Kobe "no" according to the detective who initially interviewed her...yet he's (Kobe) hiding things too.
Maybe it will all come out in the civil case, unless they do a "sealed settlement agreement for an undisclosed sum" which is what Wood usually tries to get.
Whatever Seeker. You clearly showed your contempt for my right to my own opinion by asking if I even read the apology. I obviously don't know anything about rape. How do you think I got the job volunteering in the rape crisis center? Obviously because I know NOTHING about rape. Right down to the part about being held down by the neck.You're right, I'm wrong. Just like you are right about this case and the victim is wrong.
That's why many rape victims never tell a soul. Because people don't BELIEVE them. People accuse them of lying. People who weren't even there.
Did anyone tell you you didn't act like a molestation victim after the fact? Was your molestation portrayed in the media before the entire nation with a sympathetic slant towards your molester? Did people judge you for not getting away from your molester when "things started heating up"? Were you portrayed in the media as someone who seduced your molester with the idea of getting money? The answers to any and all of these questions have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with WHETHER OR NOT AN ACTUAL RAPE OCCURRED.They have everything to do with how our society treats rape victims.
Robert Chambers' attorneys portrayed Jennifer Levin just exactly the same way. According to them, she was a *advertiser censored*. She seduced Chambers. SHE ASKED FOR IT. And someone must have thought it was true. Because Jennifer wasn't just raped. She was MURDERED. And portrayed in the media as a loose woman. Who obviously therefore deserved it. Because things like that don't happen to nice girls. And you can't rape a *advertiser censored*. Someone must have thought it was true because her killer walks the streets today, a free man, 37 years old. He did have to do some prison time. But only because of THAT *advertiser censored*.
Men who are falsely accused of rape don't apologize for it in order to get out of standing trial for it. That's just my opinion, but I do have some experience to back me up.
I also notice you put up a link for South African rape crisis. I'd say that's reaching a little. South Africa is known for a lot, but not for its exemplary treatment of rape victims. As evidenced by the cartoon on that site of the little kid saying "You can get away with rape if you are famous and have a hotshot legal team"
I think Kobe is a rapist. That is my opinion and I won't change it for you. So it's time to leave me alone about it.