Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #3

[Donjeta]

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/the-lost-girls/
OT story about another show biz creep

http://flavorwire.com/527502/post-cosby-is-it-easier-or-harder-to-expose-famous-predators
Post-Cosby, Is It Easier or Harder to Expose Famous Predators?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...5b75e4-2a5b-11e5-a5ea-cf74396e59ec_story.html

I keep harping on the Smithsonian but they deserve to be harped on I think:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...5b75e4-2a5b-11e5-a5ea-cf74396e59ec_story.html

The exhibition was paid for by, and celebrates in myriad ways small and large, a man who, many women alleged, not only sexually assaulted them but in some cases sought to silence them. It is called “Conversations.”

This isn’t about borrowing art from an unsavory rich guy; it’s about hosting an exhibition that celebrates the family life and character — “the personal importance of family to the collectors cannot be overstated,” reads one exhibition text — of a married man who by his own admission acquired Quaaludes to give to women he wanted to have sex with.

Although the Smithsonian says that it will acknowledge the Cosby controversy with an informational sign, it hasn’t yet done so. And so the exhibition remains an exercise in hagiography, full of soft-focus and flattering images of the Cosbys, a painting by their daughter and multiple citations from the couple explaining their love of art.

Why are there photos of Bill Cosby if it's not about him? Why is his love of art relevant? Why is the importance of the family for the art owners relevant? I mean, for shame... This exhibition opened well after the first allegations, there was time to reconsider. They could have had the paintings without making the texts about Cosby and his awesomeness.

After 40 appearances of his name, I stopped counting.

What to make of a quilt that includes a panel with these words on it: “What about the word no don’t you understand?”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...5b75e4-2a5b-11e5-a5ea-cf74396e59ec_story.html

I

n an interview published in the exhibition catalogue, Cosby repeatedly explains that he isn’t interested in “angry” art.

“I only picked artworks that gave me a feeling of calm, because I couldn’t stand to come home to the stereotypical images of mother and child or angry black people after dealing with some of the racist people I encountered during the day,” he says.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/going...b2b1f6-682c-11e4-b053-65cea7903f2e_story.html
Yeah, it's not about him so why is there an interview of him in the catalogue?

 

[Slebby]

rsbm

At one time, years ago, she seemed quite sharp, but one can't help but wonder what sort of severe brain damage she has suffered by being a co-host on 'The View' for so many years. Watching 10 minutes of that abomination is bad enough, but to participate in it regularly cannot help but make one progressively stupider.

Hear hear! Clap clap! Oh thank you, I couldn't agree more!! The co-hosts are self-important know-nothings blathering on as though every word they say is sooo noteworthy. Yuck.


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[cady]

Hear hear! Clap clap! Oh thank you, I couldn't agree more!! The co-hosts are self-important know-nothings blathering on as though every word they say is sooo noteworthy. Yuck.


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Elisabeth H "progressed" to Fox's curly couch....need I say more? JMO

 

[La Louve]

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/the-lost-girls/
OT story about another show biz creep

http://flavorwire.com/527502/post-cosby-is-it-easier-or-harder-to-expose-famous-predators
Post-Cosby, Is It Easier or Harder to Expose Famous Predators?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...5b75e4-2a5b-11e5-a5ea-cf74396e59ec_story.html

I keep harping on the Smithsonian but they deserve to be harped on I think:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...5b75e4-2a5b-11e5-a5ea-cf74396e59ec_story.html





Why are there photos of Bill Cosby if it's not about him? Why is his love of art relevant? Why is the importance of the family for the art owners relevant? I mean, for shame... This exhibition opened well after the first allegations, there was time to reconsider. They could have had the paintings without making the texts about Cosby and his awesomeness.






http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...5b75e4-2a5b-11e5-a5ea-cf74396e59ec_story.html

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/going...b2b1f6-682c-11e4-b053-65cea7903f2e_story.html
Yeah, it's not about him so why is there an interview of him in the catalogue?

This is not good for my blood pressure so early in the morning

With the same author also making the case for federal charges against Cosby, I think the Smithsonian needs to rethink their strategy here.

Ugh, I was just imagining tourists in D.C. seeing this exhibit or not going to see it because it has the Cosby name so heavily attached to it. There may be some really important pieces in the exhibit, I don't know. Padding the exhibit with works by the donors' daughter and quilts doesn't give me a high level of confidence.

I am going to guess that the Smithsonian was approached by the Cosbys about a potential exhibit of their collection and the Smithsonian management was too star struck to look objectively at the offer.

That sign they want to put up smacks of elitism to me too. Like: "because this is ART we know better than you, dear public, and we've decided that we can overlook our donor's crimes so you should too."

UGH

ETA and I'd still like to see some news outlet submit a FOIA request for the total dollar amount of tax credits the Cosbys have taken for that exhibit. I bet every year that exhibit is up and running they get to take a deduction of some portion of the value of the art.

 

[bluesneakers]

rsbm

At one time, years ago, she seemed quite sharp, but one can't help but wonder what sort of severe brain damage she has suffered by being a co-host on 'The View' for so many years. Watching 10 minutes of that abomination is bad enough, but to participate in it regularly cannot help but make one progressively stupider.

This is so true! I distinctly remember admiring and respecting Barbara Walters. I thought maybe she'd been replaced by a pod person but your Brain Damaged by The View theory works too.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Obama: There's no precedent for revoking Bill Cosby's Medal of Freedom, but drugging and having sex with someone wihtout consent is rape

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...evoke-Cosbys-Medal-Freedom.html#ixzz3fzGPn7UE

 

[Inthedetails]

Obama: There's no precedent for revoking Bill Cosby's Medal of Freedom, but drugging and having sex with someone wihtout consent is rape

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...evoke-Cosbys-Medal-Freedom.html#ixzz3fzGPn7UE

Please post on every campus in the country. And add a note that rape is a felony. Maybe that's the way some good will come out of this mess.

JMO.

 

[LinasK]

Obama: There's no precedent for revoking Bill Cosby's Medal of Freedom, but drugging and having sex with someone wihtout consent is rape

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...evoke-Cosbys-Medal-Freedom.html#ixzz3fzGPn7UE

And there you have it: Angela Rose, executive director of Promoting Awareness Victim Empowerment, said: 'By President Obama's own definition, Bill Cosby is a rapist.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...evoke-Cosbys-Medal-Freedom.html#ixzz3fzOOZ8Fl

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[Blondie in Spokane]

And there you have it: Angela Rose, executive director of Promoting Awareness Victim Empowerment, said: 'By President Obama's own definition, Bill Cosby is a rapist.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...evoke-Cosbys-Medal-Freedom.html#ixzz3fzOOZ8Fl

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Yeah, but BO will still let the rapist keep the Medal of Freedom. Grrrr.

ETA: then why don't we just set a precedent, Mr President????? This really annoys me!

 

[bluesneakers]

Yeah, but BO will still let the rapist keep the Medal of Freedom. Grrrr.

ETA: then why don't we just set a precedent, Mr President????? This really annoys me!

I think he specifically used language that would leave the option open. He didn't say he can't and won't. At least I hope that's what he meant.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

I hope you're right Blue!

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

I think he specifically used language that would leave the option open. He didn't say he can't and won't. At least I hope that's what he meant.

I see where my confusion started...I was reading the updated title on the Daily Mail article.

It now reads:

"Obama berates Bill Cosby saying 'if you give a woman a drug then have sex without consent, that's rape' - but comedian WON'T lose Presidential Medal of Freedom"

very confusing & misleading!

(ETA: and it doesn't help that, once again, I am following along from work and
I KEEP GETTING INTERRUPTED lol!)

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

New on my Xfinity homepage:

Jul 15 2015, 5:12 pm ET

Obama on Bill Cosby: No Way to Revoke Cosby's Medal of Freedom

by Erin McClam

President Barack Obama answered a question about Bill Cosby on Wednesday by saying that no civilized country should tolerate rape.

Obama, at a White House press conference, said that there was no way to revoke the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Cosby, who has been accused of sexual assault by dozens of women. Obama declined to address those allegations...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/obama-bill-cosby-no-way-revoke-cosbys-medal-freedom-n392656

 

[Donjeta]

'If you give a woman, or a man for that matter, without his or her knowledge, a drug and then have sex with that person without consent, that's rape,' the president said.
'And I think this country, any civilized country, should have no tolerance for rape.'

Obama punted on the Medal of Freedom question, saying that 'there's no precedent for revoking a medal. We don't have that mechanism.'
'And as you know, I tend to make it a policy not to comment on the specifics of cases where therre might still be, if not criminal, then civil issues involved.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...evoke-Cosbys-Medal-Freedom.html#ixzz3fzzDeYCE
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I'm not reading that as a definite no but more as, "i don't know yet", and "let's not have the POTUS interfering with the current civil cases".

 

[LinasK]

Yeah, but BO will still let the rapist keep the Medal of Freedom. Grrrr.

ETA: then why don't we just set a precedent, Mr President????? This really annoys me!

Agreed, so he should start a precedent. I think he and Whoopi are afraid to speak out against a black person, which is silly. Shouldn't matter what your race is when you are a criminal. Bill Cosby has held himself up to be the paragon of Black Virtue all while hiding his rapes and he's garned all the degrees he didn't earn, and the star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, that they also don't want to revoke... disgusting! And the Smithsonian should take the Cosby name off the exhibition at least. And most importantly, Bill Cosby should be federally prosecuted for rape. Who is going to start the ball rolling???

 

[bluesneakers]

'If you give a woman, or a man for that matter, without his or her knowledge, a drug and then have sex with that person without consent, that's rape,' the president said.
'And I think this country, any civilized country, should have no tolerance for rape.'

Obama punted on the Medal of Freedom question, saying that 'there's no precedent for revoking a medal. We don't have that mechanism.'
'And as you know, I tend to make it a policy not to comment on the specifics of cases where therre might still be, if not criminal, then civil issues involved.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...evoke-Cosbys-Medal-Freedom.html#ixzz3fzzDeYCE
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


I'm not reading that as a definite no but more as, "i don't know yet", and "let's not have the POTUS interfering with the current civil cases".

That's how I read it too.

 

[bluesneakers]

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/the-lost-girls/
OT story about another show biz creep

http://flavorwire.com/527502/post-cosby-is-it-easier-or-harder-to-expose-famous-predators
Post-Cosby, Is It Easier or Harder to Expose Famous Predators?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...5b75e4-2a5b-11e5-a5ea-cf74396e59ec_story.html

I keep harping on the Smithsonian but they deserve to be harped on I think:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...5b75e4-2a5b-11e5-a5ea-cf74396e59ec_story.html

Why are there photos of Bill Cosby if it's not about him? Why is his love of art relevant? Why is the importance of the family for the art owners relevant? I mean, for shame... This exhibition opened well after the first allegations, there was time to reconsider. They could have had the paintings without making the texts about Cosby and his awesomeness.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...5b75e4-2a5b-11e5-a5ea-cf74396e59ec_story.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/going...b2b1f6-682c-11e4-b053-65cea7903f2e_story.html
Yeah, it's not about him so why is there an interview of him in the catalogue?

Don't apologize for harping. I love the Smithsonian, but they made this all about Bill and it's on them to break free.

How many times have you gone to an exhibit or seen a collection that was there thanks to an "anonymous" donor? I'm not saying they should pretend this didn't come from Bill, but it shows the exhibit doesn't have to be about the owner/donor. If they can't exhibit the work without Bill they need to simply NOT exhibit the art. Why is this taking so long?

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Agreed, so he should start a precedent. I think he and Whoopi are afraid to speak out against a black person, which is silly. Shouldn't matter what your race is when you are a criminal. Bill Cosby has held himself up to be the paragon of Black Virtue all while hiding his rapes and he's garned all the degrees he didn't earn, and the star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, that they also don't want to revoke... disgusting! And the Smithsonian should take the Cosby name off the exhibition at least. And most importantly, Bill Cosby should be federally prosecuted for rape. Who is going to start the ball rolling???

Absolutely, totally agree 1,000 percent!

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Ah, yes.......here we go:


ABC forced Whoopi Goldberg to change her stance on Bill Cosby rape allegations 'after overwhelming number of viewer complaints'

Whoopi Goldberg announced on The View Tuesday that she had changed her stance on allegations of rape against Bill Cosby

After learning about the statute of limitations on rape cases Goldberg said that Cosby did appear to be guilty

She also urged Cosby to speak up and defend himself if these allegations were not true

An insider is now revealing that ABC executives pressured her to stop defending Cosby

Goldberg had been a vocal supporter of the disgraced actor for months and the network was receiving an overwhelming number of complaints


"ABC reportedly asked the daytime host to stop defending Cosby and to admit that he was likely guilty."

"The reason it seems was the overwhelming number of complaints the network was receiving from fans that were upset with Goldberg's vocal support of the disgraced actor."

'ABC put pressure on her to back down in a big way as they were inundated with anti-Whoopi [complaints]. Execs were putting hard pressure on her, that’s the reason she backed down,' an insider told Fox 411."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-number-viewer-complaints.html#ixzz3g0GBC7Ci

 

[Morag]

The Medal of Freedom (and almost any award, in fact) is given based on what is known about the person at that time (early 2000's). When horrible and damning information like that comes to the fore, what can you do? "Hello, Cosby, this is the Secret Service. We'll be over to pick up that medal in a few minutes." Even if that worked, you'd still have to get the name off the list- or wherever the name is published.

But rest assured that whenever anyone hear's Cosby's name from now on, they won't be thinking, oh, yeah, the guy with the medal (or the Emmy, or the Grammy, or the art collection). They'll be thinking, oh, yeah, the rapist. And even though Cosby can wear that medal around his neck all day long for the rest of his life, and even though he can fondly remember having it hung around his neck in the White House, it will no longer have any meaning to anyone else.

And sad to say, there may be other ignoble folk (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Blair?) among the recipients. It's kind of like OJ Simpson's Heisman Trophy. If there were a mechanism to revoke the award, it would become a political hot potato, with various factions demanding that a particular person be stripped of the Medal. Right now, lots of people are mad at Harper Lee! And almost any politician would be fair game for a case to be made for stripping the Medal. A true case of nothing can be done...