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No. I don't believe she wanted to be caught so I would have to think she did not set out to become the first female pedo/murderer. (Not sure she would be the first actually...I will have to research it further, but I would find it impossible to believe right now.)
 
I agree. I don't think she wanted to be first. Let's not forget she was taking psychotropic drugs. That is NOT an excuse for murder, but could be a strong contributing factor.
 
Poly, I think the autopsy probably included DNA samples which pointed directly to MH being the exclusive perp, imo. If they had any indication there was a male involved, he would have been arrested along with MH like Sgt. Sheneman keeps saying.
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I have somewhat of a gross question related to this I'm hoping someone on here can answer...I know they can connect DNA to rapists thru semen - how does that work for women? how would MH's DNA have ended up on the victim if a foreign object was used?

again, I know this is gruesome, but female-on-female rape is so rare in the annals of criminal justice that I have to wonder how forensic science will be used in these particular cases.
 
OK. Well, thanks for your responses. Still wondering...as I'm sure many of you out there are as well.

Once again, I'm amazed at the level of human depravity evident in these crimes.
 
all i know is that im certain the drugs she was on (psycotropic drugs) had something to do with this...moo...oh yeah is the priest melissa's father?? just curious....
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where did you get the information that Melissa was on drugs, "psychotropic" drugs specifically?
 
There are cases of female pedo murderers out there. But, they usually work with a male perp.
 
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yeah, I worry about that myself since I google EVERYTHING from "rates of rape by state" to "chloroform", more than I worry about someone finding out that I've googled "yeast infection' or some other embarrassing topic...
 
I agree. I don't think she wanted to be first. Let's not forget she was taking psychotropic drugs. That is NOT an excuse for murder, but could be a strong contributing factor.
However, I have noticed a pattern in your posts and many others. They appear to be looking for reasons or "contributing factors" for her to have committed this heinous crime. I think she could simply be an evil and vindictive B*tch who was obsessed with an 8 year old beautiful child.
 
Hello!

I'm new here. I joined because I live in Tracy and have been just devastated by the Sandra Cantu case. I have a 5y/o daughter, and this has hit us all very hard. The kids at school are talking about it, and my daughter is having nightmares.

Because of all this, I have been following the case very closely, and love this site! Wow, you guys are really on top of it all.

I do believe that MH was the only perp in the murder event. what remains to be seen is if she was involved with other sickos in the manufacture and sale of kiddie *advertiser censored*. I'm sure if it is the case, it will come out very soon. I have read about the "tracy 60", but do not understand why, if the police have knowledge of this, are these people not in jail???? That part confuses me. I will reserve opinion on that subject for now.

As for MH, I have some theories. I know someone who was molested as a child. she would NEVER hurt another child, and actually advocates for child protection/stop family abuse. Approx. 38% of minor females in the US have been sexually abused in some manner, and we do know that the incidence of female abusers is low. Most of the time, these girls, if they do not get help, go on to "self-abuse" through promiscuity, drug/alcohol addiction, suicide attempts, etc. Since abusers tend to blame the victim, a victim usually internalizes this emotion, and turns rage inward. I believe it is uncommon for a female victim of childhood abuse to go on to become an abuser themselves. However, REPEATED, CHRONIC abuse, especially combined with other horrific abuse such as physical, mental, etc (and neglect) will actually change the way a young brain works. It is a true physical change in the brain.. there have been some PET scan investigations into this phenomenon. I believe that it is these poor unfortunate souls that basically can become psychotic or develop severe personality disorders such as dissociative disorders. I would not be surprised if MH were the childhood victim of horrendous abuse, perhaps even ritualistic abuse. I certainly hope that is investigated, and if found to be true, the monsters that created this will be brought to swift justice.

IMHO, once someone is found to be "mentally ill" with a condition such as dissociative disorder or psychosis, AND that person has perpatrated a crime upon children, I do NOT believe they can ever be rehabilitated. I do not think MH will ever be able to overcome her compulsion toward children. We do not have the science at present to cure pedophiles of their compulsive behaviour. Therefore, they need to be locked up for life.

Watching her at the arraignment, she really did look full of shame. I don't think she is a sociopath, although there have been a few who were good fakers at showing remorse or regret. This all remains to be seen. I'm sure we will hear of other children who are victims of MH.

I hear they went back in and searched after her arraignment. Perhaps they got some prelim tox screen back and were looking for drugs?

I just hope people locally can stop blaming Sandra's poor mother. In a case like this, Sandra didn't stand a chance. The local paper commentaries are full of blamers that I wish would just go away. How cruel.

May God bless dear little Sandra's soul, and may He keep all the children safe from monsters.

Snapdragon
 
I have somewhat of a gross question related to this I'm hoping someone on here can answer...I know they can connect DNA to rapists thru semen - how does that work for women? how would MH's DNA have ended up on the victim if a foreign object was used?

again, I know this is gruesome, but female-on-female rape is so rare in the annals of criminal justice that I have to wonder how forensic science will be used in these particular cases.
Saliva is the most frequent way for DNA to be transfered with a female perp, but other bodily fluids could come into play for DNA samples on the victim or on the objects used, imo.
 
I have somewhat of a gross question related to this I'm hoping someone on here can answer...I know they can connect DNA to rapists thru semen - how does that work for women? how would MH's DNA have ended up on the victim if a foreign object was used?

again, I know this is gruesome, but female-on-female rape is so rare in the annals of criminal justice that I have to wonder how forensic science will be used in these particular cases.

It could be anything like, fingerprints on the instrument, skin sluffs {?}, bodily fluids of an orgasmic nature {?}, spit, urine, stool, blood, etc.

I've wondered what the instrument could be and wonder if it was a sex toy? If this is inappropriate I'll delete this post. It is a simply awful subject ;}
 
I do believe such people exist (i.e., people who are born evil), and I think that is probably true in other cases but I don't think it's true in this case.
 
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where did you get the information that Melissa was on drugs, "psychotropic" drugs specifically?
I have read some articles that suggested that she was dealing with a lot of mental issues and had seen doctors for this which leads me to my own theory that she was indeed on psychotropic meds, plus i believe i did read that she was coming down off of them when this happened, if you want a link, message me and ill find it for ya, I have a theory, believe it or dont, that many of the women that have commited these types of crimes are on some types of psychotropic drugs, and this is not something i just came up with, if you look at many women who were commiting some type of violence or murder agsaint kids, many were on these type meds, either too much or mixing these drugs, like andrea yates, susan smith etc etc. I can look up a whole list if you like, many people like to use the excuse that they were crazy before the drugs but If that were the case why didnt they display that behavior before the drugs??? I have seen three of my personal friends totally disinegrate under psychiatric medicinal care, im talking college buddies of mine. who were completely normal, go to the doctor s for situational depression, and come back with all these medications!!! one trying to take her life three times AFTER she was put on drugs, another one is completely bonkers now all she does is smile at you and nod her head, and another one is on regular street drugs because she was put on so much adderall that she became addicted to methamphetamines...so this is why I feel that way about the drugs doctors prescribe for these people...remember these are my oppinions only...
 
I'm in the very few who believe that Melissa was involved in child *advertiser censored* and the only thread I had to discuss this was on was the Tracy 60 as my thoughts were not well received. I'm not specifically interested in the Tracy 60 but more the child *advertiser censored* theory behind this murder. Since this news report has sprung up, I'm interested in creating a thread as well if more information comes out. I suspect that it will in due time as the LE wouldn't want to tip off that they know of bigger things. That seems par with this investigation, i.e., let the perps feel safe.
 
There is one started on the Tracy60...but I think we should wait until they come out on KOVR (CBS13) with an actual report we can quote. ;) Then...yes...I would say we start another one so we do not mix the 60 into what the parents are saying. Make sense?!

I couldn't tell from his report if those parents only SUSPECT it or if their children are telling them things. I would like to know the circumstances since there is such a push about the Tracy60 before we jump on it.
I too heard today that LE is investigating other children who she may have molested, but it was probably from the same news source. What I heard is they are asking for people to come forward with information. MOO
 
I am not sure if she is wanting to be recognized as the "original woman pedo" and/or I am not sure if it's the desparation of gaining the ultimate attention? (I don't know if the act itself fulfilled her as per the pedophile behavior OR if she was aiming for attention copying pedophile behavior. Does that make any sense at all?)

Women who kill are a mystery to me. Post partum psychosis is almost understandable (IMO), there was a lady who ran her husband over with a car because of his infidelity (not saying it's a good reason or plan but almost understandable?) I just can't fathom a reason for murdering a neighbor kid? Even if I look at it like a "John Couey" situation, I can't for a minute grasp a woman being this heinous.
 
However, I have noticed a pattern in your posts and many others. They appear to be looking for reasons or "contributing factors" for her to have committed this heinous crime. I think she could simply be an evil and vindictive B*tch who was obsessed with an 8 year old beautiful child.

IMO, there are always contributing factors as to why anyone commits these heinous crimes. Be it mental illness, abuse, whatever. The reason I feel it is necessary to understand them is to help people later on down the road. For instance, we know that it is important to attempt to help kids who hurt animals, trying to prevent them from going down the road to start hurting people. Maybe it's the Sociologist (ok, just the Sociology degree) in me that sees this as part of the bigger picture of our society.

People should not be taken off the hook when they commit atrocities against other people, but it is very important for the future to take lessons from the past.
 
I'm in the very few who believe that Melissa was involved in child *advertiser censored* and the only thread I had to discuss this was on was the Tracy 60 as my thoughts were not well received. I'm not specifically interested in the Tracy 60 but more the child *advertiser censored* theory behind this murder. Since this news report has sprung up, I'm interested in creating a thread as well if more information comes out. I suspect that it will in due time as the LE wouldn't want to tip off that they know of bigger things. That seems par with this investigation, i.e., let the perps feel safe.
I would think that if she was involved in a *advertiser censored* ring, her computer and cell phone would hold a lot of information. Also, if she had any video camera/equipment. MOO
 
No, it is not inappropriate since we do know it was rape by a foreign object. This could be a sex toy or any other object.

Personally, I don't think it was a sex toy...but something she found in the church to use. I believe her intent was to inflict as much pain as possible. Then again, it was premeditated.

We know in Brooke Bennett's case, the uncle ordered a torture type sex set up to be used. It was also used to inflict as much damage and pain as possible. GRRRR!
 

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