Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/22 thru 1/26 Break

[LinasK]

You mean besides dressing like a 15 year old tramp who snuck out of the house in her older sisters clothes,caking on way too much make up, passing notes from jodi to her family and friends and tweeting while live in court?

Nothing. The above pretty much sums it up.

Okay, what is her job supposed to be?

 

[wendiesan]

What exactly is her job?

PR Hack for a murderer: tweets a specialty, IMO.

 

[AngelWings444]

A couple of things.

1. I think the Sandy wore the #1 Mom necklace to make the jury think that Sandy, herself, is the one with something loose. Her daughter is on trial for murder, she has been beaten by her, and she (Sandy) thinks it's ok to wear a #1 Mom necklace? Trying to shove it in JA's face of what a great Mom she was/is (jurors eyes not reality.) Does this make sense? It's to try to win pity for JA. Not for one second, do I believe she is doing this to tick off JA and call JA a liar, it's to benefit JA. Orchestrated by Maria. Guaranteed.

2. I think JA sliced her finger while killing Travis, dropped the knife onto her feet, and that is she says her feet were bleeding. I am sure her bleeding feet are the reason the car mats were missing, blood on them. Although, I still believe she kicked Travis. Each one of her lies has some kind of truth to it, most of the time. She's her own worst enemy since the killing. It's her own words, pics, testimony, letters that will land her on death row. The letter to the family will be the final straw.

 

[AZlawyer]

I mean idk, is there? They were saying it was about a pic of Jodi and usually those are ok.

I don't see why it would be an issue. I think people are just guessing if they're saying it's a picture of Jodi that was the problem.

 

[Kamille]

Okay, what is her job supposed to be?

At this point I think she's there to monitor social media and bring things to the DT's attention. I think she just follows this and other forums to find things that they can file motions for mistrial on. We know KN and JW don't have the time for it but she sure does.

MOO

 

[AngelWings444]

I mean idk, is there? They were saying it was about a pic of Jodi and usually those are ok.

That was me. I said 1 of 3 things and included the pic of Arias in 1 of the 3. The other one was McGree and the other one was Cha Cha's twitter pic that she posted while in court today. I think it was Jen, who sent the Cha Cha twitter picture out during court today, and that is why Maria threw the phone down. Clearly, I could be wrong. Lol

 

[MeeBee]

I don't see why it would be an issue. I think people are just guessing if they're saying it's a picture of Jodi that was the problem.

Hmmm ok. So it was pulled for a reason they don't know why, I heard that from Jen. I thought I read something earlier about it being about a pic of Jodi but I can't rememebr if it was speculation or if it was a guess based in something someone said or what. But I will take your word for it. I can just see the defense kicking up a fuss that the public can see the evidence. But if it's not a problem it's not a problem.

 

[MeeBee]

That was me. I said 1 of 3 things and included the pic of Arias in 1 of the 3. The other one was McGree and the other one was Cha Cha's twitter pic that she posted while in court today. I think it was Jen, who sent the Cha Cha twitter picture out during court today, and that is why Maria threw the phone down. Clearly, I could be wrong. Lol

Yeah I remember this that's not what I'm remembering lol. It was a tweet I believe.

 

[RickshawFan]

Tweets from another person in court today, read from bottom up

M @EmsterChic · 5h 5 hours ago
"He held the gun to my head & tried to fire but nothing happened.. Just a click." -#jodiarias letter to TA family.

M @EmsterChic · 5h 5 hours ago
#jodiarias claims female intruder stomped on her legs after she tried to tackle her. -letter to TA family.

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M @EmsterChic · 5h 5 hours ago
"Was conscious but quiet at this point on all fours w/ his right hand on his head.." Letter from #jodiarias to TA family.

M @EmsterChic · 5h 5 hours ago
Juan reading excerpt from letter from #jodiarias to TA family.

M @EmsterChic · 5h 5 hours ago
I was sitting kneeling on the floor next 2 the shower, going thru the pics I had taken when I heard a loud pop.and I heard Travis screaming.

Does anyone think JA could have shot TA both before and after the stabbings? Like this: she planned to shoot him first, and she tried, but the gun wouldn't go off, so she picked up the knife; when she wasn't satisfied with her knife work, she grabbed the gun and tried again. This time, the gun fired.

 

[wendiesan]

Okay, what is her job supposed to be?

IIRC, she is supposed to be a Death Penalty Mitigation Specialist who is conversant with the laws and practices of Arizona.
It is my understanding that she is part of the JA DT.
As to the work for which she is supposed to be doing, I'll refer to an investigative firm in Arizona for a description of the services they are prepared to offer.

We find that mitigation work is a combination of both art and science. The science part is the ability to know where to look for police records, social workers reports, mental health professionals’ reports, medical records, school records, court records and every other written piece of documentation.

The science is also knowing how to locate:

Witnesses
Friends
Educators
Counselors
Treating physicians
Welfare case workers
Parents
Siblings
Aunts and uncles
Grandparents and great grandparents
Godparents
In-laws and shirttail relatives
Many of the above haven’t seen the defendant since childhood and are now scattered about the country.
It is both art and science, knowing how to finesse these people into talking to you, giving statements and finding out what you need to know, then getting them to testify.

Finally, all of these witness statements, records, reports and findings are useless to the defense attorney unless they can be properly organized and mapped out into a usable format that can be utilized in court. The art is in knowing what factors will truly be considered by a judge or jury in passing sentence against a defendant. It is art in knowing how to present those factors in a manner that the trier of fact will pay attention to and truly take to heart. It is in knowing how to make them connect with the defendant so they see that person as a human being. That the defendant faced challenges in their lives that may have resulted in some wrong decisions, but given the same circumstances a judge or juror can say, “There but for the grace of God, go I.”

http://www.palmerinvestigative.com/mitigation-expert.html

Hope this helps. FWIW, this description doesn't refer to some of the activities of which Ms. de la Rosa has been suspected.

...mitigation specialist Maria de la Rosa is under more scrutiny than ever. The Toronto Relationships Examiner recently reported a leaked audio that was released last week from someone in the Jodi Arias camp. The leaked audio was a telephone recording between Jodi Arias and a member of an organization that has been helping Jodi Arias raise funds. We have learned that all documentation regarding that leaked recording has a trail with many fingers pointing back to Maria de la Rosa as a key member involved in that phone call.

If Maria de la Rosa is in fact associated with that phone call, that would mean she is also aiding and abetting a jail inmate in not only participating in third party phone calls, but also in recording them. She would also be either directly associated with someone that disseminated that call to the public, or be directly involved with that activity herself.

If she is involved in these activities, she would be not only breaking Maricopa County Jail regulations, she may even be seen to be breaking the law.

http://www.examiner.com/article/jod...s-heard-court-mitigation-specialist-under-scr

 

[MeeBee]

Does anyone think JA could have shot TA both before and after the stabbings? Like this: she planned to shoot him first, and she tried, but the gun wouldn't go off, so she picked up the knife; when she wasn't satisfied with her knife work, she grabbed the gun and tried again. This time, the gun fired.

I'm definitely more open to the idea she shot him first, now. The way she describes the gun clicking with her. The way she describes him being shot in the shower. I also thought it was possible she stabbed him first and when he wouldn't die she shot him and then tried again and it clicked so she cut his throat.

 

[Katharine]

First of all, I do believe that Juan Martinez read the 18 page letter (or is it 20 pages ?) long ago when he began this journey. The Alexander family would have included him among the very select few allowed to read the letter. At the time and for a long time, the Alexander family no doubt had made it plain to those select few of their desire to keep the letter private. We could not imagine until now the pain that letter must have caused them, and the pain of hearing the words from the letter again and now in public.

The events that have been occurring in this retrial probably played a large part in their decision to make this letter public (such as secret witness testimony by Jody that took not one but 2 higher courts to deem that it should not be in secret, the secret affidavits of the ?14 or however many unknown witnesses who refuse to publicly testify, the length of this penalty phase, the consistent and constant victimization of their beloved brother and even other close friends such as Chris & Sky Hughes, Deanna Reid, Detective Flores, to name some, the trial within a trial r/t *advertiser censored* on a computer that amounted to once (which does not even matter) and so much more and all with the knowledge that the first jury could not come to a decision for this last part of the trial.

Probably with very heavy hearts and much discussion with each other and those they trusted (to include Juan Martinez), the Alexander family made the decision to make the private letter public. At what point they made this decision, perhaps they will let us know in time. But we must remember that timing is everything. I prefer out of the defense expert witnesses that have testified in both the first trial and this part of the trial that it was through Dr. Robert Geffner that parts of this long letter has been revealed. Since he became the one that some of the secret affidavit witness testimony was to be relayed to the jury and the Court, the timing seemed perfect. Dr. Geffner has not displayed Court disrespect. Even though he has been diligent in his opinion (unfortunately), Dr. Geffner has not shown thus far the behavior we have seen in Samuels, AVL, and Fonseca.

Lastly, as I see several others are coming forward as I am, this letter finally made me get off the fence of indecision and can finally say that yes, Jody does deserve the death penalty. As I read the date July 28, 2008 (Travis birthday) for her letter to the Alexander family, I wondered was Jody still in the Yreka jail when she wrote the long letter. Remember it was the female officer who encouraged Jody to write a letter to the family. I checked the timeline of dates, July 15, 2008 she was arrested at her home and then booked at the Siskiyou County jail on suspicion of 1st degree murder, and it was September 5, 2008 that Jody was extradited to Arizona.

For those of you who have penned so well your thoughts on this long letter, I do agree. Jody described just what she herself had done to cause the death of such a good, caring, and kind man who had shortcomings as we all do but never deserved death by the hands of Jody. She did indeed want the family to know just what was done and why she thought their brother Travis deserved to die. Now we understand why his grandmother died of a broken heart. Now we understand why the Alexander family desired the harshest punishment possible to be inflicted upon the murderer. It does not matter that Jody may never be put to death, but it does matter that she be in isolation from all others. That eventually Jody will die in prison.

Rest in Peace Travis Victor Alexander. (Just My Very Humble Opinion)

 

[AngelWings444]

First of all, I do believe that Juan Martinez read the 18 page letter (or is it 20 pages ?) long ago when he began this journey. The Alexander family would have included him among the very select few allowed to read the letter. At the time and for a long time, the Alexander family no doubt had made it plain to those select few of their desire to keep the letter private. We could not imagine until now the pain that letter must have caused them, and the pain of hearing the words from the letter again and now in public.

The events that have been occurring in this retrial probably played a large part in their decision to make this letter public (such as secret witness testimony by Jody that took not one but 2 higher courts to deem that it should not be in secret, the secret affidavits of the ?14 or however many unknown witnesses who refuse to publicly testify, the length of this penalty phase, the consistent and constant victimization of their beloved brother and even other close friends such as Chris & Sky Hughes, Deanna Reid, Detective Flores, to name some, the trial within a trial r/t *advertiser censored* on a computer that amounted to once (which does not even matter) and so much more and all with the knowledge that the first jury could not come to a decision for this last part of the trial.

Probably with very heavy hearts and much discussion with each other and those they trusted (to include Juan Martinez), the Alexander family made the decision to make the private letter public. At what point they made this decision, perhaps they will let us know in time. But we must remember that timing is everything. I prefer out of the defense expert witnesses that have testified in both the first trial and this part of the trial that it was through Dr. Robert Geffner that parts of this long letter has been revealed. Since he became the one that some of the secret affidavit witness testimony was to be relayed to the jury and the Court, the timing seemed perfect. Dr. Geffner has not displayed Court disrespect. Even though he has been diligent in his opinion (unfortunately), Dr. Geffner has not shown thus far the behavior we have seen in Samuels, AVL, and Fonseca.

Lastly, as I see several others are coming forward as I am, this letter finally made me get off the fence of indecision and can finally say that yes, Jody does deserve the death penalty. As I read the date July 28, 2008 (Travis birthday) for her letter to the Alexander family, I wondered was Jody still in the Yreka jail when she wrote the long letter. Remember it was the female officer who encouraged Jody to write a letter to the family. I checked the timeline of dates, July 15, 2008 she was arrested at her home and then booked at the Siskiyou County jail on suspicion of 1st degree murder, and it was September 5, 2008 that Jody was extradited to Arizona.

For those of you who have penned so well your thoughts on this long letter, I do agree. Jody described just what she herself had done to cause the death of such a good, caring, and kind man who had shortcomings as we all do but never deserved death by the hands of Jody. She did indeed want the family to know just what was done and why she thought their brother Travis deserved to die. Now we understand why his grandmother died of a broken heart. Now we understand why the Alexander family desired the harshest punishment possible to be inflicted upon the murderer. It does not matter that Jody may never be put to death, but it does matter that she be in isolation from all others. That eventually Jody will die in prison.

Rest in Peace Travis Victor Alexander. (Just My Very Humble Opinion)

Standing ovation. Thank you.

 

[AngelWings444]

Yeah I remember this that's not what I'm remembering lol. It was a tweet I believe.

I believe both of these happened, but it may not be what you were asking. lol

1. There was a twitter threat to McGee or something in twitterland, combined with JM releasing the name in court yesterday that will be an issue.

2. I think Maria threw the phone on the table today, because Jenn and/or someone, shared Cha Cha's twitter picture that Cha Cha posted while court was in session today.

 

[MeeBee]

I believe both of these happened, but it may not be what you were asking. lol

1. There was a twitter threat to McGee or something in twitterland, combined with JM releasing the name in court yesterday that will be an issue.

2. I think Maria threw the phone on the table today, because Jenn and/or someone, shared Cha Cha's twitter picture that Cha Cha posted while court was in session today.

When did she throw her phone? Thanks.

 

[Wing Ding]

Well I just now finished nearly every message in today's trial thread, and all I can say is... wow!

Juan absolutely decimated Geff (and Fonseca by association) and he also seemed to put to rest any questions re: pr0n or abuse claims. Oh, and did we also learn today that she and Travis may not have actually been in an exclusive boyfriend/girlfriend relationship together as she has claimed?

And knowing what little content I now do of the letter Jodi wrote and mailed the family makes the pain they are feeling 100% crystal clear to me now.

To anyone who's been playing along at home for the last two years, Juan Martinez has single-handedly changed the entire case's focus from the abuse excuse to spurned lover. Detective Flores was right when, in his first interview with Jodi, he told her "you do not want him (Juan) to paint that picture for the jury".

Prayers to the Alexander family. Stay strong. Justice is on the way!

 

[Tillicum]

I've followed this case from the beginning and I've always felt that Jodi deserved the DP but deep down I've known that I could never have made that choice if I were on the jury.

Years ago a family member was a random victim of a serial killer. After several years the pieces came together and the suspect was brought in for questioning. He knew he didn't have a chance because his DNA was found on at least 4 of the victims. He began to brag about his methods with each victim, disgusting, vivid details. He was proud of himself and the ways his victims suffered. This man was so evil that his public defender was terrified of him and she was replaced. There was one trial for all the murders and he sat there and gloated as the gruesome images were put up. I can't... there are no words to describe this level of evil inside him. The stun belt was used three times during the trial, twice in the courtroom and once in the hallway when he growled and lunged at the family when they were escorting him in. I was glad he received the DP, not because I wanted it as a form of punishment but because I was terrified of who he would torture and kill otherwise.

I have never compared our case with Travis Alexander's until today. Until I read Jodi's words in the letter. Different crimes, but that same evil. I know now that if I were on that jury, I would choose the death penalty.

 

[AngelWings444]

When did she throw her phone? Thanks.

I'm going to try to find tweets from today. They were all at the same time. JA's pic was taken, pool camera guy got thrown out, Cha Cha posted her twit pic while in court. I thought someone wrote she showed it to defense and threw phone on the table? I'll search more. I'm only good by memory, not researching, but I'll give it my best. Here is one.

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 9h 9 hours ago
Pool camera got booted so maybe took a pic of #jodiarias Nurmi didn't like and now we have a new motion filed

 

[MsJosie]

I believe both of these happened, but it may not be what you were asking. lol

1. There was a twitter threat to McGee or something in twitterland, combined with JM releasing the name in court yesterday that will be an issue.

2. I think Maria threw the phone on the table today, because Jenn and/or someone, shared Cha Cha's twitter picture that Cha Cha posted while court was in session today.

If Cha Cha does not want her stuff shared then she should not put it on social media to begin with.

 

[AngelWings444]

Could be this? Cathy@Courtchatter posted secret/not so secret pics of the copyright test.

https://twitter.com/courtchatter/status/558405795247702016/photo/1