SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 #18 **ARREST**

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Hi all-

Sorry to interrupt. I've been trying to absorb all the history of this case (while taking a break from absorbing the madness - literally - of the Teleka Patrick threads) and have determined there is not enough time in the day to catch up on all the surreal cases on this site (love it!)

So, in lieu of quitting my day job and declaring every day Pajama Day so I can keep up, I'm going to beg an answer that I apparently skipped over.

What is all the hubbub about a Disney trailer/RV?

Amazing work, you guys! And huge kudos to Cherry for her mad skip tracing sleuth skills on the Teleka case (OT, but still...IMPRESSIVE)!
 
If Tammy did something in a fit of rage, it would have been loud. There would be yelling and screaming. Nothing like that was heard at PTL. So if it were manic and crazy, they were somewhere very private.

OR it was planned and able to be done without drawing any attention the situation.

I don't live in MB and have only been there three times, but.....in the middle of the night, really? People would hear something? Sounds like this was a pretty remote location.
 
I don't live in MB and have only been there three times, but.....in the middle of the night, really? People would hear something? Sounds like this was a pretty remote location.

There is a mobile home type park right next to PTL.
 
Hi all-

Sorry to interrupt. I've been trying to absorb all the history of this case (while taking a break from absorbing the madness - literally - of the Teleka Patrick threads) and have determined there is not enough time in the day to catch up on all the surreal cases on this site (love it!)

So, in lieu of quitting my day job and declaring every day Pajama Day so I can keep up, I'm going to beg an answer that I apparently skipped over.

What is all the hubbub about a Disney trailer/RV?

Amazing work, you guys! And huge kudos to Cherry for her mad skip tracing sleuth skills on the Teleka case (OT, but still...IMPRESSIVE)!


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I've thought the EXACT same thing. I've questioned why he'd go to the hospital the night of the gun incident if he hadn't been harmed... unless he was suffering from extreme anxiety and/or a panic attack, some type of distress, etc.

This is my theory:

SM really was planning to leave his wife. He asked HE to meet him at PTL to talk about it. HE called BW and sounded upset because she was feeling a mix of emotions... happy because this showed her that he truly did care about her and she wasn't just "the other woman", confused and worried because she's only 20 years old & not prepared for a 38 year old man to leave his wife for her & feel obligated to be with him, mad because is this just another attempt to string her along or reel her back in because he found out about her date, and terrified because she knew how explosive and vile TM might be if she finds out they're together.

I think she probably agreed to at least meet him at PTL to sort it all out. TM either followed SM or found/read messages before SM left to go meet her and said the three are going to settle this issue for good and demanded to ride out to PTL to discuss it. From this point on... there are too many different possibilities to theorize but I think she may have A) meant to either scare the crap out of HE & inadvertently killed her or B) killed her in a crazed fit of range.

In either scenario, I think she told SM that he had to help her get rid of the evidence because all signs point to him because he's the last person she talked to... she would play the role of the poor wife who got cheated on and likely make up some BS about him being verbally or mentally abusive and act as if she had no idea he'd still been in contact with her. So, SM felt he had no other choice but to oblige.

He's likely been an emotional wreck the past two months if the theory above applies because he really did care about HE and he knows he'll never see her again & that he helped his wife get away with it... not to mention the threats and harassment made... and he's been sitting there watching his wife post all kinds of non-sense on SM sites to stir the pot.

And so when things started escalating and people started shooting at his truck and/or pointing shot guns at his head, he cracked. He feared for his life. He thought about how the feelings of paranoia and the constant waiting for the other shoe to drop will follow him around for the rest of his life... and then everything he's been holding in for the past two months exploded. He was likely having a panic/anxiety attack when the police arrived to file the PR & they suggested he go to the hospital. He agreed & spilled the beans to a medical professional... who might have encouraged him to tell the police or he told the doctor that he/she should notify the police... he might have expected the arrest and warrant was coming but TM had no clue.

He was questioned more extensively/thoroughly by LE yesterday morning, to get more detailed info about where/what to look for & that's the reason for SM's delayed booking after TM was already in jail.

He would still be charged because he was obviously involved. He felt defeated but also relieved it was all going to be over soon ... hence the look on his face (as opposed to TM's) in the mug shot.

Of course... that's MOO & speculation only.


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Good theory/good post! I have had similar thoughts myself. Possibly others as well. Although, I think there is another element missing that I am reluctant to bring here just yet.

I'm not quite sure about SM "spilling the beans" just yet though. IMO, he's still in the denial stage and is likely very confused as to what to do next.

A panic attack is certainly a believable cause for LE to suggest a trip to the ER as well as making his "story" look better, IMO.

Overall, sounds about right. Now, LE needs physical evidence to prove the theory. Or, a confession. And most importantly, Heather.


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I'm finally caught up.
I can't even express how much I want to see the Mickey Mouses go down, down, down...to the big house!
I'm praying & hoping so much that Heather will be found & that justice will be HARSH on those who did her harm.
I will seriously be gleefully jumping up & down with joy if LE has turned up video evidence implicating the Mickeys in whatever happened to Heather.
I'm a pretty peace loving person, but boy, do I want to see things explode against these "people." How dare anyone take away somebody's daughter?!?! There just aren't words.
Keeping the Elvis family & M kids in my thoughts & prayers. They are all suffering so terribly because of the actions of the Mickeys. :(


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That is why I asked earlier if J Reuben posts weight and height. Would like to know about both these characters.

I noticed here in the thread yesterday that TM described herself as being 5'9" - whether she was writing the truth or not, we do not know and nor does she probably, IMO.

I was particularly interested, in case she'd possibly relocated a vehicle that wasn't hers.
 
Question-
I am horrible about sighting sources but I wrote down (randomly) that TM's dad is the one who has the black f150. They impounded that one didnt they? I guess maybe it could be that the dad owns the truck but they use it OR....

Also Im seeing on ancestry that they previously had two addresses in Summerville, SC only a few miles from each other but doesnt give dates of when they lived there.

And Im sure it doesnt mean anything BUT all of the documents for TM state her middle initial as being "R" but we know its "L"

There is another TM that lives nearby I believe.

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Help , this thread got tiny for me? On Ipad...cannot see what i am typing...anyone? A pm please?

Hey, Clu:

Someone clued me in on Ctrl + to enlarge pictures- I've found it enlarges font, too. At least on my Chromebook. Ipad speaks a language I don't :floorlaugh:

ETA: Above BBM, no pun was intended.
 
I am starting to think our best hope for getting this case solved is Sidney confessing everything, agreeing to testify against Tammy, for a deal.
 
I pulled these from the carolinelive.com video segment posted upthread. I believe this is within TOS as it's not unverified tweets of the Ms in court:
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I recognize some people in the background. Reality just hit me. Taking a break now.
 

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Help , this thread got tiny for me? On Ipad...cannot see what i am typing...anyone? A pm please?

That usually happens when the margins are blown when someone posts a photo too large . Best to find the photo and alert mod on that post to allow them or poster to resize it .

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I noticed here in the thread yesterday that TM described herself as being 5'9" - whether she was writing the truth or not, we do not know and nor does she probably, IMO.

I was particularly interested, in case she'd possibly relocated a vehicle that wasn't hers.

And Sid was only 5'8"... per his modeling site, anyway.
 
This is just my speculation but it was known that HE and SM supposedly had trysts that involved being in the car. I think that PTL was their meeting spot for said trysts. I think that SM called or texted HE to meet him there at PTL. I think at that point SM lured HE into his car and took her to a different location. That is why I think neighbor's and such did not notice HE car or anything until the next day. I think SM did this under the direction of TM, because TM wanted a confrontation with HE. I think the confrontation got out of hand, and went beyond what even SM thought was possible. I think TM blames it all on SM, and says that SM has to help her cover it up or the police will come looking for him. I think that SM & TM decide at that point on a quick trip to Disney/Florida, and I think that they took HE out of state. I think that is the reason for all the smugness, as they know that HCPD is looking in all the wrong places. IMO, I think this is close to what may have happened to HE.
 
Hey, Clu:

Someone clued me in on Ctrl + to enlarge pictures- I've found it enlarges font, too. At least on my Chromebook. Ipad speak a language I don't :floorlaugh:

ETA: Above BBM, no pun was intended.

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Did not work. Tiny again wth
 
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