SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 #27***ARREST**

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Good morning everyone.

Just a quick question:

Do we in fact know that SM was arrested at a different place and a later time?

I know that the booking times at JRL are a little less than two hours apart, but here in Horry County that doesn't mean much.

I know of two people that were arrested over simple possession of marijuana charges, and even though they were both arrested and escorted to jail by the same cop, at the same time, there booking times differentiated by almost 3 hours.

It all depends on who is working where that day at the jail, how many people they have to process in, in which order they process in, etc. Sometimes certain inmates have different needs than others; for example needing to see a nurse, or waiting for copies of the warrants to be delivered, some may not be cooperative, therefore having to sit in a holding cell for a bit longer, etc, all of which will affect the time it takes them to be processed into the jail.

Even if everything goes smoothly, two people escorted to jail at the exact same time will have different booking times. Obviously one will be booked in before the other one, a process that can take anywhere from 30 minutes and longer. So even though they showed up at the same time, for the same offense, even if everything goes smooth with the booking process, ones time will be at least 30 minutes later than the other.

At least that is the way that it currently works at the Horry County Department of Corrections (J Ruben Long Detention Center).

I'm just curious as to if we actually know that SM was arrested at a later time, or are we making assumptions based on the booking times?

Thanks for clearing this up for me.

As closely as I am following this case, I am sure there are things I have overlooked or don't recall reading.

-Restless in Horry County

-JL

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travelbug said:
It occurred to me the fact that "all 5 were asleep in the master bedroom" may be a telling fact. The arrest and booking information indicate that TM was arrested immediately at the home. However, SM was arrested "later and at a different location". IMO that means perhaps SM was allowed to stay with the children until DSS arrived or escort them to a safe location. If that happened then maybe LE already views TM as the primary perp.
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I don't remember reading or hearing that SM was arrested "later and at a different location". What is the source for this? I thought they both were arrested at the home. I wondered why the lag in booking time for SM and if I had known he was arrested later it would have been obvious as to why the later booking time. Do we have a source for the arrested later and at a different location detail?
Eta: this was in the latest WMBF article, "A police report from February 21 - the day Tammy and Sidney Moorer were arrested at their home on Highway 814. . ."
Maybe SM was allowed to hang around, in custody, at the home with the kids while TM was immediately removed from the home? I think it was crucial that TM and SM were separated and not allowed to communicate once arrested and it appears that that is exactly what went down.
 
To me it seems as TM is lazy and sloppy. You don't go from clean to leaving food out and maggots and such. This is what they are probably used to. I also think they were sleeping in the master bedroom because they were afraid of people and of getting caught too. I am in the "not very likely" group when it comes to Sydney being shot at, but they were threatened more than a few times. IMO Heather was a Disney princess, I think she was raised that way. And HELLO, princesses do not clean house!
 
I wonder if the state of cleanliness in the house made it easier for LE to find things or more difficult. I would think a spotless house would be easier to find things in. One could also easily determine if areas had been "cleaned up" in a tidy home. In a disorganized home it seems it'd be more difficult to find things that are significant. One may find a lot but that doesn't necessarily equate to significant. And if there were stacks and piles of things (this is not mentioned in the article I read) then they could be stacked in a particular spot for a reason. I'm hoping everything was taken. Everything. Though I doubt it was.
A messy home may indicate carelessness or it may indicate great hiding places. I wonder about the rotting food. If it was just some fruit going bad or bread that expired and was overlooked that's one thing but if it were more than that again I'd have to wonder about the reason. Is it there to distract or cover something more damaging? If LE was at the home early in the investigation and there was no indication of an unkempt home and now there is, it could be indicative of a life/lives falling apart or it could be a way to distract from evidence in the home. Just my thoughts.
 
I also wonder if LE wanted to make sure they kept them apart from the very beginning. Remember that article about the reporter who went through the booking process? Everyone is together in the same room waiting to be processed and booked. I wonder if it's similar to the show “Jail" that comes on tv where there are rows of seating and when your name is called you go to one of the stations of the processing like medical, photo, etc.

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rlfield said:
To me it seems as TM is lazy and sloppy. You don't go from clean to leaving food out and maggots and such. This is what they are probably used to. I also think they were sleeping in the master bedroom because they were afraid of people and of getting caught too. I am in the "not very likely" group when it comes to Sydney being shot at, but they were threatened more than a few times. IMO Heather was a Disney princess, I think she was raised that way. And HELLO, princesses do not clean house!
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I think you mean Tammy, NOT Heather
 
travelbug said:
It occurred to me the fact that "all 5 were asleep in the master bedroom" may be a telling fact. The arrest and booking information indicate that TM was arrested immediately at the home. However, SM was arrested "later and at a different location". IMO that means perhaps SM was allowed to stay with the children until DSS arrived or escort them to a safe location. If that happened then maybe LE already views TM as the primary perp.
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Do you have a link for this? I have only seen LE state that they were both arrested at their home and booked at the same prison but TM was booked a couple of hours before SM.
 
Catlady2 said:
With exception of their staircase and remodeled bathroom (which I bet aren't real) I've not seen any pic of inside their home. That seems unusual for someone who is a photographer and takes as many pics as she does. Maybe they needed an outdoor kitchen because the inside one was always dirty. Sm had to grill and cook. Look at the arial pics: pretty from the front to all outsiders then you see that back lot that looks like sanford and son junkyard. I think their life was that also. These actions by these people are symptoms of a sickness inside. Imo

Drinking/drugs? Maybe... the rosacea tm has can be made worse by drinking. A purple nose is a common thing on severe alcoholics.
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When I saw the pic of the stuffed animals on that staircase, i thought that it was a fake staircase. No one could walk on it with all those animals. It looks like there is a wall at the top. There even looks like painters tape around the top. JMO
 
MommyPlatt said:
When I saw the pic of the stuffed animals on that staircase, i thought that it was a fake staircase. No one could walk on it with all those animals. It looks like there is a wall at the top. There even looks like painters tape around the top. JMO
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When I looked at the picture I thought it looked like a stairway to an attic with some kind of flat door/door in the ceiling. IMO
 
Its interesting about the condition of the home and them all sleeping in 1 room. I do think that paranoia got to them and just a guess that it got to TM more than the others and then she kind of forced the whole family to start freaking out. Here is why I think that.

TM's rant alluded to her kids and protecting her kids. TM seemed to be the most verbal and lashing out at others and even threatening to sue everyone.

SM seemed to be under control of her and I think he more or less took directions from her. Like getting tatoos with her name and maybe carrying guns wasnt his thing at first but became his thing because of her. She was the one that mentioned about liking guns and he looked awkward in that posed picture with a gun on his belt. Like who does that unless being told to do that.

Remember when the reporter asked SM for an interview and he hid behind the door. He seemed to be hiding behind that door and he probably would have never let anyone inside to see the condition of the house. It almost looked like someone else was with him at the door and he was making sure to say things that was approved by others.

In a strange way, you can almost envision when he was out doing jobs by himself he probably felt some freedom for a change. Which could explain his behavior with others at certain employment places with other girls.

All the talk of condition of their home reminds me of a time long ago where almost everyone my family knew had those plastic covers on the furniture that your body stuck to. As kids, we were told to not sit on the "good" furniture but you really did not want to anyway because of the thick plastic covers. LOL There was this 1 good living room that nobody used. And it seemed no company was ever good enough to take the covers off. They were on all the time. Like we were saving the furniture for a special event that never came. It was the "thing" way back all those years ago. I dont want to say the year but to give a hint. It was the same years when silver Chistmas trees were the "thing" and instead of christmas lights, we had that 3 color wheel that would shine 3 different colors on the tree as the plastic colored wheel spun around.

Those were the "days". LOL Great times though. I got my brand new bicycle with training wheels that year. LOL
 
Good morning!
I keep thinking about the living conditions, and granted, the situation probably worsened over the last month or so due to fear and all BUT...I don't think TM was Martha Stewart before This situation. Having said that, if she is that lazy with her own home, it would make sense that she would be even lazier with Heather and covering/cleaning up. Ugh.

Um yea...JMO MOO
 
Momoffourboys said:
Good morning!
I keep thinking about the living conditions, and granted, the situation probably worsened over the last month or so due to fear and all BUT...I don't think TM was Martha Stewart before This situation. Having said that, if she is that lazy with her own home, it would make sense that she would be even lazier with Heather and covering/cleaning up. Ugh.

Um yea...JMO MOO
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It is so frustrating that they have been able to hide heather so well. I am thinking more and more that either they had help or they did something with the body that made it go away. Like fire or covered under rocks or down a well or something along those lines. Or stealing that other murderers idea of placing body in a hollowed out tree.

It always amazes me how certain people cannot be found. There are just too many cases where the body is really hard to find. I did not think this case would be like that. I thought she would be found by now.

I am still holding out hope that one of them gives up information for a reduced sentence.
 
I think that the sleeping in the room is no big deal. I would have done the same in her situation (NOT that I would ever put myself in that situation). To me, the guns ARE a big deal and I am major pro-gun.

To me, the reason the messy house part is important is because of the way she portrayed herself to be supermom on the Disboards. IOW, she was SO busy and had SO much to do, but because she was SO efficient she was able to get it all done AND post the equivalent of War and Peace at that site.

So, she is either a liar or freaked out. IMO it is both, and it is further confirmation of her being a huge liar which is really important to know.
 
Snowyowl just posted this in the PL:

Murder suspect in Heather Elvis case is from Berkeley County

http://www.berkeleyobserver.com/2014/03/06/murder-suspect-heather-elvis-case-berkeley-county/

The unnamed source says after graduating high school Sidney later moved to Myrtle Beach for work where he at some point met his wife Tammy in a strip club. He reportedly hasn’t spoken to his parents who still live in Berkeley County for a number of years because they don’t “approve of his life style”. The source describes Sidney’s parents as “good people.”
 
Maybe we should wonder why so many murder victim's remains are found.
 
SStarr33 said:
I think that the sleeping in the room is no big deal. I would have done the same in her situation (NOT that I would ever put myself in that situation). To me, the guns ARE a big deal and I am major pro-gun.

To me, the reason the messy house part is important is because of the way she portrayed herself to be supermom on the Disboards. IOW, she was SO busy and had SO much to do, but because she was SO efficient she was able to get it all done AND post the equivalent to War and Peace at that site.

So, she is either a liar or freaked out. IMO it is both, and it is further confirmation of her being a huge liar which is really important to know.
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