SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #8

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Calli said:
Yes, Skully, it was your post. Sorry! I tried to quote it, but I must not have hit the button right. I understand what you mean, but having grown up there, I know people could get mixed up and start thinking another location was involved. No worries!

I also agree with your opinion now that more information has come out. I also think PTL could've been a "convenient" dumping place for someone, too. I know it was posted a while back, and it may have been rumor, that the car seat was still set to her height. I don't know if that was ever verified by verified insiders or not, but I do recall Lady Hawwke mentioning that people were discussing things that weren't released by MSM regarding this, but I don't recall it being discredited by her. Regardless, **if** someone else drove Heather's car to PTL, and **if** the car seat was still set to her height, it's possible her make and model of car has programmable settings for the seat and such. We have a vehicle that has a "1" and "2" setting for the seat, mirrors, etc., and the key fob is programmed to return things to that driver's settings when the car is unlocked. **If** Heather's car has this feature, someone could've feasibly driven her car there and returned everything to her settings quite easily. They could've hit "unlock" and "lock," and voila! Just an idea...
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We are assuming that the person who may have driven it, wasn't her height or needed to adjust the seat, what if it wasn't needed?
 
Saved some interesting comments that have been deleted on fhefb page for hopefully future discussion....
 
Skully said:
After sort of walking myself through it, as her, I can't understand going there after the date. It was late, cold and why go? So I keep thinking maybe someone knocked on the door, someone she knew, she gave them a ride and then something went very wrong. I think they drove her car there to confuse LE, to make it look like she went there and left with someone. JMO. No proof, just going there to take a boat ride or giving someone a ride there, makes no sense to me. There are so many places better to meet up.
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That's pretty much how I see it. It just doesn't jive. I think the car in that location has more to do with distracting from where she is or what happened. And I think it may have required two people to leave it there. Unless someone was up for a walk and I doubt that.
 
Skully said:
After sort of walking myself through it, as her, I can't understand going there after the date. It was late, cold and why go? So I keep thinking maybe someone knocked on the door, someone she knew, she gave them a ride and then something went very wrong. I think they drove her car there to confuse LE, to make it look like she went there and left with someone. JMO. No proof, just going there to take a boat ride or giving someone a ride there, makes no sense to me. There are so many places better to meet up.
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As to your question of it was late, cold and why go?

I was once a young and independent 20 year old girl, and I can imagine a few reasons I would have gone back out.

We still have no idea what time she went there, if she went there, but thinking as my younger self, time probably wouldn't have mattered. The things that would've brought me out, would've brought me out at any hour.
 
spiritseeker31 said:
I have found Mr. Elvis to be an awesome writer. He expresses his feelings well enough that we can all capture his grief, despair and even his hope. I pray that he will be able to use his writings to heal in the years to come.
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I'm at work and this article can't be displayed here... I can't wait to get home and read this article! I've heard such great things about what TE has written.
 
jillycat said:
That's pretty much how I see it. It just doesn't jive. I think the car in that location has more to do with distracting from where she is or what happened. And I think it may have required two people to leave it there. Unless someone was up for a walk and I doubt that.
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jillycat, I agree that the car is likely a deflection, but disagree that it required two persons to leave it there at the boat landing. Websleuthers worked two recent cases; one where a man killed his wife and attempted to make it look like the work of a predator, and another serial killer/predator, which was responsible for taking many innocent lives across the USA. Both subjects were half marathon runners..

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NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - #11 *ARREST*

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220900&highlight=Israel+Keyes
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SharetheLight said:
As to your question of it was late, cold and why go?

I was once a young and independent 20 year old girl, and I can imagine a few reasons I would have gone back out.

We still have no idea what time she went there, if she went there, but thinking as my younger self, time probably wouldn't have mattered. The things that would've brought me out, would've brought me out at any hour.
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LOL, I forget I was 20 and young and went out at all hours too. I get your point. Looking back I can't believe I went out to some of the places for some of the things I wanted to do, LOL.
 
christee said:
Link to HE's scanner thread...

[url="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229853”]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/url]
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Bumping for anyone interested in the scanner thread.

We are not allowed to talk about scanner thread (basement) info on this thread … what you see or hear in the scanner thread stays there. You can post see scanner thread, but that is all that is allowed.
 
I don't like how they are allowing the fb page to be run. I for one, went there to "like" the page and refuse. I will not like a page that is going to conduct themselves in that manner. It is very distasteful. I really hope they find their daughter and will continue to follow along on here, but can't on a page that allows that. I understand that if someone did something to her she is the victim. I get that. Even if she did make those bad choices, that doesn't allow someone to hurt if...if true. I would agree. With all that said, I found her twitter and there is so much on there I found that red flags are going off. My prayers are with the family.
 
Foxfire said:
jillycat, I agree that the car is likely a deflection, but disagree that it required two persons to leave it there at the boat landing. Websleuthers worked two recent cases; one where a man killed his wife and attempted to make it look like the work of a predator, and another serial killer/predator, which was responsible for taking many innocent lives across the USA. Both subjects were half marathon runners..
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Yes, I'm just saying it could indicate two people were involved in the car dump. Sometimes people panic and call for help with covering their crime...have no idea in this case because there's too much we don't know about her activities beyond a certain point, or for what reason she would have had contact with anyone after her date.

The car location has just always stood out to me like a sore thumb and its presence seems so contrived. Will be interesting when this breaks to discover the sequence of events and how the car placement figured into the perpetrator's activities.
 
Flutterflies said:
Bumping for anyone interested in the scanner thread.

We are not allowed to talk about scanner thread (basement) info on this thread … what you see or hear in the scanner thread stays there. You can post see scanner thread, but that is all that is allowed.
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Thank you for the post but the link is not working. Could you please try again because I would like to see what is happening on there. TIA
 
Is the scanner thread closed? I can't connect. Can someone repost the link? Thank you.
 
Could CUE search be postponed due to SLED search? Just a thought.
 
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