SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #14

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so for you cell phone experts out there- if Paul's phone had video just taken that night, and his phone was dead (I guess when they found the bodies, time wise?) would it then be plausible that the video at 8:44 has the actual murder on it? I am thinking the phone may have been still recording and that is what caused the battery to run out?

Or, saying the phone was "dead" doesn't mean it ran out of battery, but rather it was turned off?
 
You need just enough evidence to prove to a judge during the preliminary hearing that there is probable cause to support the charges.

Here, his attorneys waived that hearing, conceding that there was in fact enough evidence to move forward to trial.

In just about every case I've followed, there are outstanding lab results and reports. If you waited for everything, you'd have dangerous people on the streets for a heck of a lot longer.

He’s probably not aiming for people that follow these things as we do, tho I’d say that even if people still live in caves they are familiar with this. DH is wanting someone to ask themselves “why
 
Well, per the hearing today, they have AM, MM and PM all together on video being friendly at 8:44 pm and the time of death is listed as 9 pm on the death certificate.

Sounds to me like a cold blooded execution, what else could have happened in 16 minutes that left PM and MM shot execution style and AM driving off chatting with friends on his phone?

MOO
 
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Well, per the hearing today, they have AM, MM and PM all together on video being friendly at 8:44 pm and the time of death is listed as 9 pm on the death certificate.

Sounds to me like a cold blooded execution, what else could have happened in 16 minutes that lead PM and MM shot execution style and AM driving off chatting with friends on his phone?

MOO
Sounds like a great closing statement LOL.
 
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There are at least two pieces of evidence Waters said are still in “draft form,” and therefore have not been yet provided to the defense. One is cellphone data from a nearby tower being conducted by the FBI. Waters said he has called the federal agency repeatedly and the information should be “ready soon.” Waters said the second item is a timeline being worked on by an agent that “once that is ready, I am happy to share that with the defense,” Waters said.

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As much as the defense may want to make this case about Smith, currently indicted for 19 felonies, Waters told Newman, “This case is not about Curtis Eddie Smith. Curtis Eddie Smith is not the center of this particular case.”

Countering Waters, Harpootlian said he isn’t saying Smith committed the murders, but added it “certainly sounds like” Smith could have done it and, as Murdaugh’s attorney, it’s his “duty to pursue.” “Mr. Waters knows that Mr. Smith visits the murder scene on numerous occasions to commit illegal acts by leaving drugs there, so we know he knew how to get there surreptitiously,” Harpootlian said. “We know his DNA, as of today, has not been tested under Maggie’s fingernails.”

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Sure....Harpo isn't saying Smith committed the murders - that's what these motions and hearing was all about. Despite the gag order, this has to get out somehow to the press!
ITA, this hearing along with the motion the Defense filed regarding Cousin ES and the polygraph was nothing but a tactic. The State even pointed out that the Defense filed the motion with a picture of ES getting the poly, the charts, etc. Hah

I believe this backfired spectacularly. DH looked unprepared, rambling, disheveled, and was argumentative at times with Judge Newman. This shows me they are desperately digging for some loophole in the investigation because they know AM looks as guilty as it gets.

MOO
 
ITA, this hearing along with the motion the Defense filed regarding Cousin ES and the polygraph was nothing but a tactic. The State even pointed out that the Defense filed the motion with a picture of ES getting the poly, the charts, etc. Hah

I believe this backfired spectacularly. DH looked unprepared, rambling, disheveled, and was argumentative at times with Judge Newman. This shows me they are desperately digging for some loophole in the investigation because they know AM looks as guilty as it gets.

MOO
Thank you for all the updates!
 

From DNA to Curtis Smith, SC lawyers in Murdaugh double murder trial fight over evidence in court​

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A South Carolina judge on Thursday sought to find a resolution to calm tensions between lawyers that erupted in a Florence County courtroom over evidence in the looming double murder trial of disbarred Hampton County attorney Alex Murdaugh.

Those eruptions, on public display in court, have risen sometimes in anger to the surface in legal motions after Murdaugh’s defense team, Dick Harpootlian and Jim Griffin, accused the state Attorney General’s office of “playing games” and withholding crucial evidence it plans to use against their client.

Creighton Waters, the lead prosecutor, has denied the defense claims that it is withholding evidence, including those made in a scathing 14-page motion filed late Wednesday that accused defense lawyers of “prejudicing the public” by making “inflammatory” demands that could not be granted nor are realistic.

From DNA to Curtis Smith, SC lawyers in Murdaugh double murder trial fight over evidence in court
 
Thanks LDRN, this case has really gotten under my skin. To realize the level of evil that AM is, to be honest, is shocking. That a world like this exists in modern day society is appalling to me.

I believe AM killed MM and PM in cold blood just because things were going to come out with a divorce and PM's criminal trial for the boating accident.

Cold, cruel, evil man.

MOO
I think you hit the nail on the head for that one.
 

Some of the more interesting points here:

According to Waters, video evidence obtained by the state puts Murdaugh and his two victims at the family’s hunting property at 8:44 p.m. EDT on the evening of June 7, 2021. That video evidence – first reported by this news outlet earlier this year – reportedly came from the cell phone of Paul Murdaugh.

Colleton County coroner Richard M. Harvey has placed the time of death of Paul Murdaugh at approximately 9:00 p.m. EDT. That’s according to his death certificate (.jpg), which was released last August by Wilson’s office when it dropped a boating under the influence case that it had been pursuing against him prior to his murder.

According to Waters, Murdaugh departed Moselle at approximately 9:06 p.m. EDT and drove to his parents’ home in Almeda, S.C. Murdaugh’s father – former S.C. fourteenth circuit solicitor Randolph Murdaugh III – was seriously ill at the time and passed away just three days after the double homicide. Readers will recall a massive law enforcement search of the Coosawhatchie River near Murdaugh’s parents’ home in Almeda in late August tied to the ongoing investigation of the double homicide – a search which reportedly came up empty.

Whatever Murdaugh did at his parents’ home, he had only a narrow window of time in which to do it.

Murdaugh placed his famous 9-1-1 call at approximately 10:07 p.m. EDT from Moselle after purportedly discovering the bodies of his wife and son – meaning he made the round trip to and from his parents’ home in Almeda in under an hour.

Given Murdaugh’s parents’ home in Almeda is approximately a twenty-minute drive from Moselle, that would have given the accused killer only around twenty to thirty minutes at that location.

Waters did not divulge any details in Thursday’s hearing, but this news outlet has spoken with multiple sources close to the ongoing investigation who have revealed some incriminating information regarding his short stay there.

Stay tuned for much more on that in future posts …
 
JMO but maybe that's when he grabbed the rifle since MM had taken off running for her life. Shotgun isn't much good for distance.
Hate to reply to my own post but I've read since I posted that he supposedly (according to Defense) retrieved his shotgun in order to protect himself after he "found" his wife and son murdered.
 
so for you cell phone experts out there- if Paul's phone had video just taken that night, and his phone was dead (I guess when they found the bodies, time wise?) would it then be plausible that the video at 8:44 has the actual murder on it? I am thinking the phone may have been still recording and that is what caused the battery to run out?

Or, saying the phone was "dead" doesn't mean it ran out of battery, but rather it was turned off?

If PM's phone was "dead", could it have been in his hand or pocket & been grazed or hit by a bullet when PM was shot?
 
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