SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #14

[girlhasnoname]

If this is how the Defense is posturing their case, they are in deep doo doo. They are asking the Judge to order specific testing? WTH? They are struggling to get things they want and that is out of the scope of what they are entitled to.

Watching DH & JG makes me a little nauseous, they like to yuck it up and act like the good ole' boys they are.

This Judge is not playing, he is awesome to watch and listen to, I'm grateful he is presiding in this case.

IMO

 

[Elley Mae]

Maggies phone 1/4 mile down rd, Paul’s phone battery dead.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Geez Dick, you got a mini trial out of this hearing. Can't you just sit down and zip it, or better yet, take your afternoon nap.

MOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

HAHAHAHA The State and Judge just shut Dick down big time about Alex not wanting to participate in future hearings. HAHAHAHA

 

[NervousNellie]

HAHAHAHA The State and Judge just shut Dick down big time about Alex not wanting to participate in future hearings. HAHAHAHA

Darnit, I wish I could watch! Would LOVE to see that!

 

[girlhasnoname]

Defense motions to compel denied, no issuance of blanket order for subpoena.

Dick is actually arguing with the Judge. He definitely needs a nap.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Hearing is over. The State went out with a big ole' boom by just being honest, professional and following the law.

Imagine that Dick and Jim?!

MOO

 

[LaborDayRN]

Hearing is over. The State went out with a big ole' boom by just being honest, professional and following the law.

Imagine that Dick and Jim?!

MOO

Thank you for all the informative posts @girlhasnoname
It's much appreciated!!

 

[girlhasnoname]

Thank you for all the informative posts @girlhasnoname
It's much appreciated!!

Thanks LDRN, this case has really gotten under my skin. To realize the level of evil that AM is, to be honest, is shocking. That a world like this exists in modern day society is appalling to me.

I believe AM killed MM and PM in cold blood just because things were going to come out with a divorce and PM's criminal trial for the boating accident.

Cold, cruel, evil man.

MOO

 

[LaborDayRN]

Thanks LDRN, this case has really gotten under my skin. To realize the level of evil that AM is, to be honest, is shocking. That a world like this exists in modern day society is appalling to me.

I believe AM killed MM and PM in cold blood just because things were going to come out with a divorce and PM's criminal trial for the boating accident.

Cold, cruel, evil man.

MOO

I couldn't agree more. It's mind boggling the things that this monster has gotten away with.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1583142833992921089

 

[MassGuy]

Lol.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1583143028360822784

 

[MassGuy]

What a load of crap. Every defense attorney in the world knows that an investigation is rarely complete before a suspect is indicted. In fact, it's common for the investigation to continue right up until trial:

“They indicted him months ago, and now they’re telling us they’re still looking at DNA, they’re still doing an evaluation of DNA,” Harpootlian said. “At what point do they stop investigating this case? They should have stopped before they indicted him.”

Murdaugh investigators comparing Curtis Smith's DNA with evidence found at crime scene

State investigators are in the process of comparing the DNA of Curtis Edward Smith, a reported accomplice in Alex Murdaugh’s alleged drug-trafficking and money-laundering schemes, to DNA found at the

www.postandcourier.com

 

[legalmomma]

Murdaugh investigators comparing Curtis Smith's DNA with evidence found at crime scene

State investigators are in the process of comparing the DNA of Curtis Edward Smith, a reported accomplice in Alex Murdaugh’s alleged drug-trafficking and money-laundering schemes, to DNA found at the

www.postandcourier.com

Waters revealed that investigators have evidence that shows Murdaugh was present at the scene of the crime that evening.

Waters said cell phone data shows Murdaugh was at the hunting estate’s dog kennels that evening, contradicting Murdaugh’s prior statements that he didn’t go down to the kennels before discovering Maggie and Paul’s bodies there later that night.

Investigators have a video that depicts Murdaugh having a pleasant conversation with his wife and son by the kennels just after 8:44 p.m., Waters said. That was shortly before evidence shows Maggie and Paul’s phones went dark — no longer moving or sending messages — Waters told the judge.

 

[MassGuy]

Murdaugh investigators comparing Curtis Smith's DNA with evidence found at crime scene

State investigators are in the process of comparing the DNA of Curtis Edward Smith, a reported accomplice in Alex Murdaugh’s alleged drug-trafficking and money-laundering schemes, to DNA found at the

www.postandcourier.com

Waters revealed that investigators have evidence that shows Murdaugh was present at the scene of the crime that evening.

Waters said cell phone data shows Murdaugh was at the hunting estate’s dog kennels that evening, contradicting Murdaugh’s prior statements that he didn’t go down to the kennels before discovering Maggie and Paul’s bodies there later that night.

Investigators have a video that depicts Murdaugh having a pleasant conversation with his wife and son by the kennels just after 8:44 p.m., Waters said. That was shortly before evidence shows Maggie and Paul’s phones went dark — no longer moving or sending messages — Waters told the judge.

That's a nice tight window. They know Paul and Maggie were alive at 8:44, their phones go dark at a certain point, and Alex leaves just after 9.

Their phones not being active after he left is absolutely damning.

 

[worm]

What a load of crap. Every defense attorney in the world knows that an investigation is rarely complete before a suspect is indicted. In fact, it's common for the investigation to continue right up until trial:

“They indicted him months ago, and now they’re telling us they’re still looking at DNA, they’re still doing an evaluation of DNA,” Harpootlian said. “At what point do they stop investigating this case? They should have stopped before they indicted him.”

Murdaugh investigators comparing Curtis Smith's DNA with evidence found at crime scene

State investigators are in the process of comparing the DNA of Curtis Edward Smith, a reported accomplice in Alex Murdaugh’s alleged drug-trafficking and money-laundering schemes, to DNA found at the

www.postandcourier.com

A local case was dropped and the state complained about “still gathering evidence” but it leads to the question about what evidence was used for the charge? I see the point both ways but it’s an easy shot for lawyers to take.

 

[cnmccarthy]

Murdaugh investigators comparing Curtis Smith's DNA with evidence found at crime scene

State investigators are in the process of comparing the DNA of Curtis Edward Smith, a reported accomplice in Alex Murdaugh’s alleged drug-trafficking and money-laundering schemes, to DNA found at the

www.postandcourier.com

Waters revealed that investigators have evidence that shows Murdaugh was present at the scene of the crime that evening.

Waters said cell phone data shows Murdaugh was at the hunting estate’s dog kennels that evening, contradicting Murdaugh’s prior statements that he didn’t go down to the kennels before discovering Maggie and Paul’s bodies there later that night.

Investigators have a video that depicts Murdaugh having a pleasant conversation with his wife and son by the kennels just after 8:44 p.m., Waters said. That was shortly before evidence shows Maggie and Paul’s phones went dark — no longer moving or sending messages — Waters told the judge.

This also puts his statement on the 911 call about his son into question if he was seen talking to BOTH of them beforehand.

 

[MassGuy]

A local case was dropped and the state complained about “still gathering evidence” but it leads to the question about what evidence was used for the charge? I see the point both ways but it’s an easy shot for lawyers to take.

You need just enough evidence to prove to a judge during the preliminary hearing that there is probable cause to support the charges.

Here, his attorneys waived that hearing, conceding that there was in fact enough evidence to move forward to trial.

In just about every case I've followed, there are outstanding lab results and reports. If you waited for everything, you'd have dangerous people on the streets for a heck of a lot longer.

 

[worm]

So they dribble out that there is DNA from the scene.

 

[legalmomma]

https://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article267606202.html

...
There are at least two pieces of evidence Waters said are still in “draft form,” and therefore have not been yet provided to the defense. One is cellphone data from a nearby tower being conducted by the FBI. Waters said he has called the federal agency repeatedly and the information should be “ready soon.” Waters said the second item is a timeline being worked on by an agent that “once that is ready, I am happy to share that with the defense,” Waters said.

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As much as the defense may want to make this case about Smith, currently indicted for 19 felonies, Waters told Newman, “This case is not about Curtis Eddie Smith. Curtis Eddie Smith is not the center of this particular case.”

Countering Waters, Harpootlian said he isn’t saying Smith committed the murders, but added it “certainly sounds like” Smith could have done it and, as Murdaugh’s attorney, it’s his “duty to pursue.” “Mr. Waters knows that Mr. Smith visits the murder scene on numerous occasions to commit illegal acts by leaving drugs there, so we know he knew how to get there surreptitiously,” Harpootlian said. “We know his DNA, as of today, has not been tested under Maggie’s fingernails.”

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Sure....Harpo isn't saying Smith committed the murders - that's what these motions and hearing was all about. Despite the gag order, this has to get out somehow to the press!