SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #2

[Diddian]

Snipped by me -

We still don't have enough information to know if there even were any "invaders". While in college, I accidentally left my apartment door open countless times.

That's true. I'd imagine surveillance will tell the story.

If I'd have been your mother, my hair would have turned prematurely grey!

 

[Elley Mae]

Excellent catch!!!!!

Could be true, MM could have been in the house maybe fixing dinner getting ready for AM to get back from hospital when the shotgun blast rang out running out to check to get run down the driveway towards the entrance. Then drug back on the property.

 

[Warwick7]

Well, who knows if it’s legit. But with a complete blackout of official information, we are left to ponder these snippets of supposed information leaked to the press.

If it’s true, and she was forced to the scene, it does suggest a number of different possible scenarios.First one I think of…she didn’t need to be killed, because she wasn’t at the scene. So her killing was deliberate and not just wrong place, wrong time.

Yes, and if Paul didn't produce what they were looking for or demand, by forcing her to look at the scene may move her to give them what they wanted?

If this is true it really changes things.I always figured she just happened to be there and was killed because she was a witness.But it seems they wanted her dead just as much as Paul.It was pure torture to have to either witness her son's murder or see his dead body.This person/persons really wanted to make her suffer.

That begs the question: who fed the media that she was an innocent bystander ? (or however it was written).
MOO
Hmmmm.......

 

[Warwick7]

Maybe they meant oct 1, j/k.

I found that odd as well, bout 3 months.?

Yeah exactly. Others may be bothered there only being 30 days in that month, but I'm sitting over here thinking excuse me, hello, um, wait a minute....why is there a deadline??
Did I miss something?

 

[Warwick7]

Just another weird detail. Obviously, there is no Sept 31. But does no one proof read at this high powered law firm? A reward for a senior partner’s murdered wife and son might be something that might cause some extra attention to detail before submitting for publication.

But odder than that…is the deadline. So after September, no reward? If you can’t help on OUR schedule…then we aren’t interested? In my humble opinion, this is bizarre.

It’s like they have to control everything…even the timetable to solve the murders.

Exactly.
And this absolutely makes no sense what so ever...

 

[Warwick7]

Could be true, MM could have been in the house maybe fixing dinner getting ready for AM to get back from hospital when the shotgun blast rang out running out to check to get run down the driveway towards the entrance. Then drug back on the property.

I hate to think of it like that, but that is very plausible.

 

[Warwick7]

Or her theory on what happened to MM

Since it rained that night.
Since it seems like MM may be a little heavier build, could it be possible her dragging marks from her body were seen in the mud??

 

[Warwick7]

I'm with you on someone picking up Paul at his apartment (leaving the door open), and someone forcing at least his mother to walk to the kennels, but, from what I've read, the older brother has a connection with Stephen. Paul wouldn't necessarily know about evidence of Stephen's murder.

"According to the investigation file, Buster was rumored to have been linked to Stephen — intimately — but detectives never proved this connection."
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‘A Slap In the Face’: Update In The Stephen Smith Case And Murdaugh Murders

However if Paul was there then there is a connection.

 

[Warwick7]

I've been around stupid drunks and boats a time or two as well and I'll go with PM pushing the throttle after stripping off his clothes in 40 degree weather and slapping/spitting on his GF.

Agreed!

 

[Sustained]

That's true. I'd imagine surveillance will tell the story.

If I'd have been your mother, my hair would have turned prematurely grey!

Nah - I didn't have anything of value to steal. No one wanted my smelly Converse high-tops and we had no laptops or cell phones back then.

 

[Sustained]

Exactly.
And this absolutely makes no sense what so ever...

I thought the M's had hired a publicist ? This article says September 30th.

Murdaugh family offers $100K reward for info leading to murder suspect arrest, conviction

 

[stmarysmead]

Yes, and if Paul didn't produce what they were looking for or demand, by forcing her to look at the scene may move her to give them what they wanted?

That begs the question: who fed the media that she was an innocent bystander ? (or however it was written).
MOO
Hmmmm.......

I have an opinion in regard to that statement that there are ‘no enemies.’

I think this family’s power, wealth, and prominence created this false narrative in their minds.

I’m sure everyone at the Yacht Club wanted to be their ‘friend’, be invited to their parties, benefit if they could from the social connection.

And the’ little people’ who worked for them or waited on them in shops and restaurants..,probably smiled and appeared just delighted to serve them.

But what we are seeing in anonymous comments across the internet is a lot of pent-up animosity…whether deserved or not.

I think it really came to a head with MB’s death. I think there had been gossip about SS but now there was no escaping that a Murdaugh was actually involved in this girl’s death. And whether his hands were on the throttle or not, his drunken behavior was odious. Maybe too many locals had run into ‘Timmy?”

And suddenly the outrage merged. The suspicion of the housekeeper’s death could be thrown in to add fuel to fire. People could see what looked like special treatment, whether the family managed it legally or not. PM was just the carefree college kid…still driving the boat…still able to travel..fun times!

I doubt anyone confronted the family over this…they just continued to think they were well-liked, PM was so popular, they all had so many friends. IMO they must be stunned at how others perceived them…going back years.

But these murders, whether related or random, have now burst that protective bubble…obviously not at first, when they gave that interview. But they can read these articles, the quotes, the disdain. I think they must be stunned.

And sadly, no matter how nice MM was…she was part of all this alleged unfairness and special privilege. There may have been equal anger at her if the killings were related to these events/rumors from the past.

All just opinion, of course.

 

[Elley Mae]

Yet another note in the case file mentions a tip that came from a man who claimed his stepson struck and killed Smith. The man claimed he was instructed to pass this information to investigators because “Randy Murdaugh told him to call,” the report states.

Investigative reports reveal search for clues in reopened 2015 hit-and-run case

This bothers me about Randy.

 

[genuineusa77]

Court mediation fails and 3 days later these people are killed. If it wasn't a couple of drunk hooligans (rebel rousers) who did this, I believe it had something to do with that boat accident. I don't think it was connected to Steven Smith.

 

[Elley Mae]

I would never lend my license for alcohol purchase, i wonder if BM knew PM had it.

 

[Barry]

30 days have September, all the rest I can't remember.

 

[Sustained]

I would never lend my license for alcohol purchase, i wonder if BM knew PM had it.

Common practice among young folks even when I was that age.

 

[Razz]

30 days have September, all the rest I can't remember.

30 days hath September, April, June and November. All the rest have 31.
Except Feb which has 28 but 29 in leap year.

 

[DAMages]

I still want to know where Buster was the night his mother and brother were murdered. Anyone spot this info in any of the coverage or reports???

 

[stmarysmead]

I still want to know where Buster was the night his mother and brother were murdered. Anyone spot this info in any of the coverage or reports???

No. And I’d like to know too.