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I just did. So tragic, sounds like he went head first into the tree. Probably didn't brake and wasn't wearing a helmet. When I went, it was very safe.

I feel so sorry for the Flores': this is just awful. But I'm angry, too: it is horrible to me that the camp didn't disassemble the zipline device or lock it so that it couldn't be used without supervision. The harnesses, carabiners, and everything must have been right there. And there was no locked contraption around the people carrier? The access ladders? This is just so all wrong.
 
On another topic entirely, I would guess JA has to take off her mufti clothes and hand them over the moment she leaves the courtroom and goes to her court cell, since in the interviews 10 minutes after her guilty verdict she is already in stripes and chains. But I wonder if she has to hand over the glasses as well because they're considered "court attire" and not jail issue? IIRC, she did not wear them in those interviews. And, surely, if they were jail attire, she would not have been able to auction them off?
 
Ziggy, one of our WS'ers, who was in Court on Monday, January 26, 2015, has written an excellent summary post, very worthy of reading, with her insights and observations on just about everything one might wonder about: jurors, juan martinez, sandy arias, juror questions, juror# 13, etc. . It is on the other thread Day 26, Part 2, page 3 and post# 417 (if you are using the 200 per posts). I hope they bring it forward when they open the new thread Day 27 this morning. (JMO)
 
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First- I just want to thank Bernina for posting all the tweets yesterday. :clap::clap:

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Cathy from Court Chatter- Jury Questions:

Jodi Arias: Defense expert wraps up testimony with jury questions

"Dr. Robert Geffner finally completed his time on the stand and we were able to gain insight into the minds of the jurors. The jury questions with corresponding answers were gathered from several sources. They are not meant to be exact quotes but I have stayed as true to the context as possible..."

http://www.courtchatter.com/2015/01/jodi-arias-defense-expert-wraps-up.html?spref=tw
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Jodi Arias sentencing retrial: cross examination of Dr. Geffner continues (with short clip)

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/279453...-of-dr-geffner-continues#.VMb3jQrp2Po.twitter
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Day 29 of the Jodi Arias trial: 'Shove,' 'push' spark arguments (short clip w Beth Karas)

"...Martinez is flat out calling Arias a professional liar.

"'Don't believe a word out of Jodi Arias's mouth' is basically what he is saying about the trauma she experienced - the PTSD that she has now been diagnosed as having," said legal analyst Beth Karas. "It's Martinez's position that this is a woman who will lie when it's convenient."..."

http://www.kpho.com/story/27939733/...nts?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
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Oklahoma Attorney General Asks The Supreme Court To Suspend Richard Glossip's Execution

"Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt filed Monday to stay the executions of three death row inmates, including Richard Glossip, who is scheduled to die Thursday, in light of recent news that the U.S. Supreme Court will review their case on the use of lethal injections..."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/...on_n_6543876.html?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000024
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In case anyone missed Lawrence's motions:

Motion to Preclude witness

https://docs.google.com/a/wildblue.net/file/d/0ByBlLbpcgb3wVjF6N1FpNjhyWjA/view

Motion requesting a mistrial: prosecutorial misconduct

https://docs.google.com/a/wildblue.net/file/d/0ByBlLbpcgb3wOURBcmlMT245Xzg/view
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From O.J. to 'Serial': We're All Armchair Jurors Now

"Before Casey Anthony was splashed across the cover of People magazine; before CNN was dissecting every detail of Jodi Arias’ volatile relationship with her ex-boyfriend, the O.J. Simpson trial set a new precedence for transforming the criminal justice system into a Hollywood-style form of entertainment and a bankable builder of celebrities...."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-to-serial-we-re-all-armchair-jurors-now.html
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Hope everyone in the Northeast are safe and warm this AM. We received about 5-6" yesterday.
 
This is entire Family is Nuts!!!!!

I've been tracking this petitions progress since yesterday They got 3 signatures.....all day. They still need 246 signatures to have..........500 whole signatures. LOL

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International Holocaust Remembrance Day January 27

70th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz


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"The UN General Assembly designated January 27—the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau—as International Holocaust Remembrance Day...."

http://www.ushmm.org/information/ex...focus/international-holocaust-remembrance-day
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The US Holocaust Memorial Museum opened in April, 1993 in Wash, DC. My older son and I visited the Holocaust Museum when it first opened that summer in 1993 and, believe me, it was an education in what evil really is. The college in Pa. was selling tickets and we decided to go with them instead of driving. It was very crowded that day we went and we only were there for about 4 hours- not enough time to really see everything, IMO.

If you ever have an opportunity to visit, go, if you are so inclined. We were humbled/sad (and in the presence of so much evil) to what people can do to others, to what the survivors went through, and we were outraged. If you can't do that, visit the website:

UNITED STATES HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL MUSEUM- Washington DC

http://www.ushmm.org/

Only guard yourself and guard your soul carefully, lest you forget the things your eyes saw, and lest these things depart your heart all the days of your life, and you shall make them known to your children, and to your children’s children.
Source: Deuteronomy 4:9

Holocaust Memorial Day 27th January ( some explicit, distressing pics)

[video=youtube;jQFgI32oxP8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQFgI32oxP8&index=36&list=PL4rQI7UPjorTmBqis3c43sbD1ggu7s4EF[/video]

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When I lived in the Bronx, I knew an old woman that worked in a bakery, who had numbers tattooed on her arm because she was in a concentration camp- her name was Shoshannah, which is "lily" in Hebrew, but she was called Shani. She was the kindest person; she just loved my younger son, who was about 7-8 years old at the time, and always gave him a cookie whenever we stopped by the bakery to buy something. I always remember her when I go to chapel and light a candle for her. My son remembers her, too. :)
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Holocaust survivor's chilling tale prompts bond with young German mom

"...Lebovics is Jewish and a Holocaust survivor, liberated at age 11 from Birkenau concentration camp. On her left forearm, she bears the Nazis' tattooed identification number...."

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-beat-holocaust-friendship-20141207-story.html#page=1
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Holocaust Survivor Paula Lebovics Testimony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRbWU4iQ8o4
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Holocaust survivor forgives the Nazis

"Eva Mozes Kor is a survivor of the Holocaust who was subjected to human experimentation under Josef Mengele. She became a world famous public speaker after publicly forgiving all the horrors the Holocaust put upon her and her murdered family members. She says that forgiveness truly liberated her from the suffering of the Holocaust, and urges other survivors to do the same...."

http://www.quora.com/Should-Holocaust-survivors-forgive-the-Nazis?ref=slate&rel_pos=1
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Ukranian Jewish Woman's Holocaust Story Teaches Us How to Survive

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(Etcia, Mania and Dunia Goldberg, photo courtesy of Valeriy Gristiv)

"...We do not read survival stories merely because people physically endure; but to learn from other people's spiritual endurance, to prove to ourselves that if had to contend with such horrors, we would retain the fragile seed of our humanity...."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/danielle-wolffe/ukranian-jewish-womans-ho_b_
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לעולם אל תשכח, לעולם לא עוד
Never forget, Never again
 
If you're interested- some more on the Holocaust:
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Race to preserve Holocaust legacy

"..."This is a race against time, we must record as many names as possible before the generation that best remembers them is no longer with us.
"We call on families around the globe to help honour the memories of their ancestors by recording their names.
"The availability of the database to everyone everywhere through the internet is critical to the effort to collect more names."..."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4088443.stm
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Last witnesses of the Holocaust

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"For more than 20 years, Harry Bibring has been telling his story to thousands of pupils. He's been a living witness....

"There is something about hearing a story first-hand that gives it more meaning," she says.
"It will be a massive loss when we don't have anyone to come in."...

...there is something inescapably poignant about this dignified man telling his story, looking into the eyes of someone whose eyes saw such persecution in the dark heart of the 20th Century.
"These are my memories," he says.

http://www.bbc.com/news/education-30815104
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Pastor Martin Niemöller

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Source: Attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller, as stated in Franklin H. Littell’s foreword to Exile in the Fatherland: Martin Niemöller’s Letters from Moabit Prison, edited by Hubert G. Locke (Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdman’s Publishing Company, 1986), p. viii
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Ronald Reagan

We who did not go their way owe them this. We must make sure that their deaths have posthumous meaning. We must make sure that from now until the end of days all humankind stares this evil in the face...and only then can we be sure it will never arise again.

Source: Ronald Reagan, 40th president of the United States, at the cornerstone-laying ceremony for the Museum, October 5, 1988
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Why Should We Remember? (warning: some explicit, distressing pics)
Bhm Holocaust Education Center

"..Overview of the Holocaust and its relevance in today's world."

[video=youtube;Ag7_VvruVNk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag7_VvruVNk[/video]
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Steven Spielberg speaks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Ar5D7auRY
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Germany marks Buchenwald 'shame'

"...German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder has led a commemoration of the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the Nazis' Buchenwald death camp.
He urged the world never to forget the horrors perpetrated by the Nazis....
The US commander was so horrified by what he found in Buchenwald that he forced the residents of nearby Weimar to visit and see what had been done in their name.
Mr Schroeder said: "We cannot change history, but this country can learn a lot from the deepest shame of our history." ."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4430133.stm
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For Every Person There is a Name - Pt 1
"Firsthand accounts of three Holocaust survivors who describe their experiences of abuse and familial loss."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3oog7tSMmE

For Every Person There is a Name - Pt 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufCHQh9QuuI
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Schindler's List and the Holocaust

Sir Ben Kingsley talks about playing Itzhak Stern in Schindler's List

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0lUUGD0rFk
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Schindler's List : what is power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lQA3bipHc
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Good Morning. Was pleasant surprised when I woke up and we weren't blocked in by a few feet of snow. We dodged the bullet with only maybe 6-8 inches, if that. Can't really tell because the wind blew it around. I am not going to complain. The Eastern part of the state got slammed.
No plows up here yet and it is still snowing a fine, light snow with a little more to come throughout the day. Staying home.
The governor just lifted the travel ban for our county and one other. All other counties it is still in effect.
 
That reallybigmeandog is so funny. I was laughing so hard I had to read to DH. He said it was hysterical:applause:
 
I know this may be off topic, but I have a question maybe someone can answer? I just read Jodi's letter to Travis' family on Beth K's site. Oh my Lord! I know that Juan read excerpts from this letter. Does that mean the whole thing was admitted into evidence? Will the jury have an opportunity to read the entire thing? It is something else. TIA.
 
Ziggy, one of our WS'ers, who was in Court on Monday, January 26, 2015, has written an excellent summary post, very worthy of reading, with her insights and observations on just about everything one might wonder about: jurors, juan martinez, sandy arias, juror questions, juror# 13, etc. . It is on the other thread Day 26, Part 2, page 3 and post# 417 (if you are using the 200 per posts). I hope they bring it forward when they open the new thread Day 27 this morning. (JMO)


Thanks! Very good summary, and a description of jurors, spectators. Good info here. Ziggy did a great job with her day in court.

From Ziggy's comments, did anyone else catch this yesterday? I didn't :facepalm:. That should shoot the DT's claim of prosecutorial misconduct!
"Somehow everyone knows who "Witness 1" is anyway. Even Geff called him by name twice by accident."


Post #417 on this page:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Sentencing-of-Jodi-Arias-Day-26-Part-2/page17
 
Big thanks to everyone for all the informative posts and tweets :tyou:
 
Thanks! Very good summary, and a description of jurors, spectators. Good info here. Ziggy did a great job with her day in court.

From Ziggy's comments, did anyone else catch this yesterday? I didn't :facepalm:. That should shoot the DT's claim of prosecutorial misconduct!
"Somehow everyone knows who "Witness 1" is anyway. Even Geff called him by name twice by accident."


Post #417 on this page:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Sentencing-of-Jodi-Arias-Day-26-Part-2/page17

What was Ziggy tweeting under? Was it "Shh I'm a juror"?
 
I haven't been able to check much into websleuths during the retrial. I keel hoping to catch up!! Please forgive if this has been posted, and I imagine it has, about Estaban Flores' son being killed in the zip lining accident this weekend. I was really heartbroken for "our" detective and everyone personally touched by the tragedy.

http://www.kpho.com/story/27946139/east-valley-boy-scout-dies-in-zip-line-accident
 
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