South Africa - Anni Dewani, 28, shot to death, Gugulethu, 13 Nov 2010 #1

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Carte Blanche Legal Round Table: The Shrien Dewani Trial.

The show will be an hour-long weekly round-up of the Shrien Dewani trial, and will be broadcast every Sunday night on M-Net Channel 101.

Presented by David O’Sullivan and Editor-In-Chief of Primedia’s Eye Witness News, Katy Katopodis, it will feature a number of guests including legal experts, social media experts and psychologists to weigh in on the proceedings of the Dewani trial as it unfolds. Carte Blanche presenter John Webb will attend the trial in Cape Town and bring his observations to the round table.

http://mnet.dstv.com/2014/10/09/carte-blanche-to-cover-dewani-trial-in-new-exclusive-weekly-show/
 
Personally I think he started being uber nice to her once he had sealed her fate with Tongo and cronies. Unfortunately she bought this hook, line and sinker, hence her happier texts to her cousin. The callous wimp tried to cover his backside by PDAs in the final days as witnessed in the Cctv footage from hotel. Tragic beyond belief. X

Hence buying Anni the red rose that he knew would be on the CCTV.
 
I wonder if he really had this HRT. It doesn't seem to make sense to go for such treatment until he had tried and failed to father a child. Both he and Anni were young enough to wait a couple of years before resorting to alternatives. Or is he claiming to be incapable of having intercourse?

Testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) can bring your testosterone levels back to normal and restore your sex drive.

But if you want to have children, there's one downside to TRT you should know about. It gives you back your sex life, but it might also reduce your ability to father children as long as you're on it.

"Testosterone replacement therapy has a profound impact on a man's reproductive potential. It's been studied as a method of birth control, because 90% of men can drop their sperm counts to zero while on testosterone. By increasing testosterone, you're not going to increase fertility."

http://www.webmd.com/men/features/infertility

So I understand that to mean that by using TRT since 2009, to increase his sex drive for gay sex, Dewani might have decreased his fertility levels by the time he married Anni in 2010 so he would have to go off it if he wanted to restore his fertility.


Is this correct?
 
Carte Blanche Legal Round Table: The Shrien Dewani Trial.

The show will be an hour-long weekly round-up of the Shrien Dewani trial, and will be broadcast every Sunday night on M-Net Channel 101.

Presented by David O’Sullivan and Editor-In-Chief of Primedia’s Eye Witness News, Katy Katopodis, it will feature a number of guests including legal experts, social media experts and psychologists to weigh in on the proceedings of the Dewani trial as it unfolds. Carte Blanche presenter John Webb will attend the trial in Cape Town and bring his observations to the round table.

http://mnet.dstv.com/2014/10/09/carte-blanche-to-cover-dewani-trial-in-new-exclusive-weekly-show/


They're going to be pushing it to get 60 minutes worth of material to discuss given that there's only about 10 min of testimony per day!
 
Sneha Hindocha, Anni’s cousin and best friend, said she was suspicious of millionaire businessman Shrien Dewani. In her statement, seen by The Mail on Sunday, Sneha, 30, claims that:

1. Anni would not want to visit a township on her honeymoon, or in the middle of the night. ‘She was elegant and sophisticated... it was not that she looked down on people but she never would have wanted to do that.’

2. Dewani’s first words to his bride on their wedding day were: ‘Your sari is not proper.’

3. He scolded his new bride for leaving clothes unfolded in their honeymoon suite.

4. Anni told her that the couple were ‘acting’ all the way through their wedding ceremony.

5. Dewani blamed his lack of interest in sex on infertility treatment –and went on a Thai boxing course to ‘raise his hormone level’.

6. He spoke of wanting to turn Anni from an ‘ugly duckling into a swan’.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bride-s-closest-confidante.html#ixzz3FuTB52kB
 
What are the five charges?

1. murder
2. kidnapping
3. robbery
4. conspiracy to commit all three
5. obstructing the adminstration of justice.

I wonder what the SENTENCE could be if found guilty of all of these?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bride-s-closest-confidante.html#ixzz3FuXXPKKE

The sentences for charges 2-5 will all probably run concurrently with the sentence for murder. This would be the normal practice. If, but not in this case, he had raped someone and then murdered the victim, the sentences for those two offences would be cumulative. After looking at many judgments in SA, this seems how it's done.

PS Estelle, three times today you've posted something I was about to post. We must be on the same wave length. :)
 
Anni’s cousin and best friend Sneha will be giving evidence at the trial. They shared their most private and intimate details with one another. She said Anni told her that the lack of intimacy in the relationship with SD bothered her the most. Anni and Sneha thought he was perhaps a virgin or didn’t want sex before marriage.

When SD told Anni that he was receiving hormone treatment for his infertility, Anni broke off the relationship because she wanted children in the future and didn’t want to be pushed away from intimacy. The relationship got back on track in January 2010 when he told her that the treatment was working, he could now be intimate and would be able to have children.

The relationship improved but deteriorated again when he went to Thailand to do a Thai boxing course. He told Anni this would further improve his hormone level. It never occurred to Anni or Sneha that his sexual interests lay elsewhere.

SD testified that even though he had visited male prostitutes, he was still attracted to Anni and had no reason to kill her. Anni would send her daily text messages, emails and phone calls saying she was uncomfortable with SD.

Anni’s parents went to the UK in order for Anni to introduce them to the Dewani family. When the families met, SD’s sister-in-law came down the stairs with a silver tray with a holy relic to bless the relationship, this blessing being a sign they were engaged. This came as a surprise to Anni, her parents and Sneha. The engagement was due to be officially announced later that month. Anni sent SD an email calling off the engagement. SD “urged her to reconsider, professed his love and promised to change his ways” so the engagement went ahead.

From July, Anni sent Sneha further emails describing more doubts, but the wedding preparations continued. She sent Sneha disturbing text messages saying there was a huge amount of animosity between she and SD, she threw her engagement ring at him, said they were fighting all the time and that she slept in the bed but SD chose to sleep on the sofa. However they reconciled and a wedding date was set.

After the first ceremony, Sneha noticed Anni was upset and asked what was wrong. Anni asked her if she thought she looked beautiful because the first thing SD said to her “as she approached him on the red carpet was, ‘your sari is not proper’”. Anni asked Sneha “if we looked in love”. Sneha asked, “Why would you ask me that?” and Anni replied that she and SD had agreed to “act out the rest of the wedding ceremonies”.

Within days of the wedding Anni asked Sneha to help her leave SD. “Then Anni found out she was going to South Africa on her honeymoon. Sneha said, “Anni was calling me on a daily basis explaining she did not want to go anywhere with Dewani, to South Africa or anywhere else, as she wanted a divorce”.

The last time Sneha saw Anni was at a dinner attended by SD and others. She said, “The mood was very tense as Dewani was criticising Anni about her hair colour”’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ims-honeymoon-bride-s-closest-confidante.html
 
Reading Anni's close friend Sneha's account is so upsetting. Whatever is at play when an intelligent young women, from a wealthy supportive family, living independently had all those doubts about Dewani but still goes ahead with the marriage to this appalling man, at best putting herself into a life of misery. If it's cultural, how is that level of control maintained so powerfully when living in western society? Maybe she just wanted a conventional family life for herself but is that really a valid explanation when she had such serious doubts about this man? I am struggling to understand the psychology that is presented in this case. Dewani may have needed to portray himself as a conventional hetersexual man to his family despite the dishonesty involved, but he is clearly more complex in his self absorbed, devious personality.
 
Reading Anni's close friend Sneha's account is so upsetting. Whatever is at play when an intelligent young women, from a wealthy supportive family, living independently had all those doubts about Dewani but still goes ahead with the marriage to this appalling man, at best putting herself into a life of misery. If it's cultural, how is that level of control maintained so powerfully when living in western society? Maybe she just wanted a conventional family life for herself but is that really a valid explanation when she had such serious doubts about this man? I am struggling to understand the psychology that is presented in this case. Dewani may have needed to portray himself as a conventional hetersexual man to his family despite the dishonesty involved, but he is clearly more complex in his self absorbed, devious personality.
BIB - I can't imagine it was anything but cultural. It doesn't seem as if Anni confided in either of her parents about her doubts. Maybe she was concerned about disappointing them? I see a few similarities here between Dewani and OP, in that they were both critical about the women they allegedly loved, and both women complained of 'distance'. By the way, Sneha was Anni's cousin, not just her friend, and it doesn't seem as if Sneha confided in anyone about what was going on either. Some of those texts, like where Anni said she hated Dewani, were so extreme, it's hard to understand why she just didn't get the hell out - unless it was a cultural thing, and she thought she would bring shame on her family if she left him?
 
BIB - I can't imagine it was anything but cultural. It doesn't seem as if Anni confided in either of her parents about her doubts. Maybe she was concerned about disappointing them? I see a few similarities here between Dewani and OP, in that they were both critical about the women they allegedly loved, and both women complained of 'distance'. By the way, Sneha was Anni's cousin, not just her friend, and it doesn't seem as if Sneha confided in anyone about what was going on either. Some of those texts, like where Anni said she hated Dewani, were so extreme, it's hard to understand why she just didn't get the hell out - unless it was a cultural thing, and she thought she would bring shame on her family if she left him?

Maybe there were other strands too, like the psychological needs for each of them in an interplay with the cultural needs and the separate advantages and disadvantages for them.

The engagement was due to be officially announced later that month. Anni sent SD an email calling off the engagement. SD “urged her to reconsider, professed his love and promised to change his ways” so the engagement went ahead.

From July, Anni sent Sneha further emails describing more doubts, but the wedding preparations continued. She sent Sneha disturbing text messages saying there was a huge amount of animosity between she and SD, she threw her engagement ring at him, said they were fighting all the time and that she slept in the bed but SD chose to sleep on the sofa. However they reconciled and a wedding date was set.

After the first ceremony, Sneha noticed Anni was upset and asked what was wrong. Anni asked her if she thought she looked beautiful because the first thing SD said to her “as she approached him on the red carpet was, ‘your sari is not proper’”. Anni asked Sneha “if we looked in love”. Sneha asked, “Why would you ask me that?” and Anni replied that she and SD had agreed to “act out the rest of the wedding ceremonies”.

Within days of the wedding Anni asked Sneha to help her leave SD. “Then Anni found out she was going to South Africa on her honeymoon. Sneha said, “Anni was calling me on a daily basis explaining she did not want to go anywhere with Dewani, to South Africa or anywhere else, as she wanted a divorce”.

The last time Sneha saw Anni was at a dinner attended by SD and others. She said, “The mood was very tense as Dewani was criticising Anni about her hair colour”’
It's all reminiscent of "The Games People Play" Eric Berne, M.D. transactional analysis from the '60s - normal in some situations and can be destructive in others, but highly dangerous with a man like Dewani.

I agree re the similarities with OP

MOO
 
For those who are following the trial, just a reminder about the Carte Blanche Legal Round Table on M-net tonight, Sunday. According to the TV guide below it commences at 2145 SA time (9.45pm for those who don't like 24 hour clocks).

http://www.iol.co.za/tonight/tv-radio/tv-guide

Here's a link to tell you what time it is in your location.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldcloc...ce.html?p1=111

That's 6.45am Monday Sydney time or Sunday 7.45pm GMT

Better link is here:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20141012T2145&p1=56&p2=240
 
The sentences for charges 2-5 will all probably run concurrently with the sentence for murder. This would be the normal practice. If, but not in this case, he had raped someone and then murdered the victim, the sentences for those two offences would be cumulative. After looking at many judgments in SA, this seems how it's done.

PS Estelle, three times today you've posted something I was about to post. We must be on the same wave length. :)

Dare I say it? Great minds think alike. LOL
 
“The Internet and Shrien's tortured inner world”

“Perhaps the most startling and perplexing admission in the Cape High Court murder trial of Shrien Dewani this week was that he visited gay dating and fetish websites a day after his bride Anni had been murdered. What are we to make of Dewani’s behaviour? Did he, either driven by guilt or anxiety, return to the one place he felt the safest and entirely able to be his true self, the Internet?”

http://ewn.co.za/2014/10/10/OPINION...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
 
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