Suspect #1: Dellen Millard *Charged* 1st Deg Murder 15 May 2013 #3

[Snoofo]

So who else thinks the 'links' are drugs, chopshopping, and money laundering (with international/across the border ties) and the three unfortunate victims are only dead/missing because they were witnesses to some portion of the illegal scheme.

Doesn't the fact that there are three victims put DM in the category of serial killer?

BBM - only if he killed them.
I've mentioned many times that the major drug busts in Torobto and surrounding areas of late may have led to information In this investigation.

Wouldn't a recommendation be made for multi-jurisdictional case management simply because it's a good idea to share info? Because somewhere along the way someone discovered that if there were prior information sharing there may not have been a need for a third farm search, at least not 4 months later.

 

[Sillybilly]

BBM - only if he killed them.
I've mentioned many times that the major drug busts in Torobto and surrounding areas of late may have led to information In this investigation.

Wouldn't a recommendation be made for multi-jurisdictional case management simply because it's a good idea to share info? Because somewhere along the way someone discovered that if there were prior information sharing there may not have been a need for a third farm search, at least not 4 months later.

Maybe, just maybe, there was nothing at all wrong with the information sharing wrt the searches.

Only some of the thousands of criminal cases get assigned to MCM. They aren't simply "recommended" based on some perceived oversite that the public might entertain. The OPP Criminal Investigation Branch is in charge of MCM, and according to the OPP website, this is how the cases come to them:

from:
http://www.opp.ca/ecms/index.php?id=184

The C.I.B. provides investigative services to assist Municipal Police Services on the direction of the Solicitor General, request from the Crown Attorney, or at the request of the Municipal Police Service

 

[robynhood]

Maybe, just maybe, there was nothing at all wrong with the information sharing wrt the searches.

Only some of the thousands of criminal cases get assigned to MCM. They aren't simply "recommended" based on some perceived oversite that the public might entertain. The OPP Criminal Investigation Branch is in charge of MCM, and according to the OPP website, this is how the cases come to them:

from:
http://www.opp.ca/ecms/index.php?id=184

Thanks for the link above..I am hoping this makes it CRYSTAL CLEAR that this is a heavy duty case...IMO and from the link Sb just posted....this MCM would NOT be involved under the ONt laws without a CLEAR REASON....I believe PB and no more calls will be answered from yesterdays POST and Press is told there will be NO ANSWERS NOW....because of where this is leading... :moo:...robynhood.

 

[Alethea Dice]

Everything you ever wanted to know about MCM.

http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/inquiries/cornwall/en/hearings/exhibits/OPC/pdf/56_MCM_Manual.pdf

http://www.mcscs.jus.gov.on.ca/english/police_serv/MajorCaseManagement/mcm.html

 

[swedie]

Could a weapon such as a gun be the common denominator? Same bullet found in WM was found in TB? Did LB tell someone DM threatened her and showed her a gun? Those links, that link could be so many things. Maybe October 22nd will shed new information. Further charges maybe... JMO

Something to do with sex trade? We've heard LB did escort service and DM had a "romantic relationship" with her. Maybe there was more to that story then just a romantic relationship. Did WM find out DM was doing this sort of business? Did it start with photography and advance from there?

Scary stuff.
Police regularly find underage girls working in Canadian strip clubs. The average age of entry into prostitution in Canada is between 12 and 14 years of age. It's impossible to believe that these young girls and boys are making a rational choice to sell their bodies to 20-40 men a night. Each victim can earn their "owner" as much as $280,800 annually, as reported by the Criminal Intelligence Service Canada.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/joy-smith-mp/sex-trade-canada_b_1710228.html

 

[robynhood]

Swede...I am only guessing like you ...JMO..i agree LB was being photographyed BUT>>it is only my OPINION again...that I think drug trafficking was involved and things were acrossing our borders,,,,and a few other things were mentioned here....on this thread last night...OC...Again as I wrote last night for this to esculate now to for MCM level it MUST be ...( IMO) ..a very heavy case with TONS of evidence ....NOT to be released till court....and I guess than we MAY hear DM so called STORY his lawyer claims he has and DM said he will tell LATER>>>>HMM...lots of talking will go down...IMO it will not clear DM & SM of Murder...and an INDIGNITY to a body....Tim Bosma...I do wonder how confusing is this story really ????....we shall all see...again in COURT....robynhood.:jail:

 

[expat cdn]

It think this case is bigger than first thought by most of us here. Not only do we have MCM for the investigation, the Attorney General granted major case funding for prosecuting the case.

The link is for a article back in August, before the barn search, at that time prosecutor Leitch was quoted as saying that they had a "large amount of evidence seized". That was before the barn search!

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/3...rough-appearances-of-bosma-s-accused-killers/

 

[Eldee]

I believe there are a few of us here, that thought this case was bigger than ever imagined. Some went with OC or drugs, or serial murders, or snuff films or maybe everything mentioned.
Here is the same old same old but I like the last paragraph about bringing out the big guns.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dail...d-two-other-investigations-opp-163210342.html

 

[LoyalSleuth]

I believe there are a few of us here, that thought this case was bigger than ever imagined. Some went with OC or drugs, or serial murders, or snuff films or maybe everything mentioned.
Here is the same old same old but I like the last paragraph about bringing out the big guns.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dail...d-two-other-investigations-opp-163210342.html

Thanks Eldee...
My question is what does this statement from that MSM mean, BBM me;

"The Spectator reports that an "investigative link" has been made between the three cases, prompting the Ontario Provincial Police to bring everything under one roof.
Presumably the link in question is the alleged connection to Bosma, making this move less about expanding the investigation and more about reorganizing the investigations that are already taking place."

 

[Eldee]

What does BBM me mean?? I'm new and still wet behind the ears. I still don't know exactly what LE means for sure. Took me months to figure out what MSM meant.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Completely random, but early on didn't someone find a tweet from DM claiming he was about to do some heroin? This just randomly popped into my head and now it's going to bug me because I can't remember if it was this case or another one.

EDIT: Okay, I found it, it was an alleged QUOTE of DM's on a friend's twitter.

 

[nettie_82]

What does BBM me mean?? I'm new and still wet behind the ears. I still don't know exactly what LE means for sure. Took me months to figure out what MSM meant.

BBM = Bolded By Me

LE = Law Enforcement

 

[Juballee]

Completely random, but early on didn't someone find a tweet from DM claiming he was about to do some heroin? This just randomly popped into my head and now it's going to bug me because I can't remember if it was this case or another one.

EDIT: Okay, I found it, it was an alleged QUOTE of DM's on a friend's twitter.

I recall the "quote" you are referring to, and I believe it was a statement made in jest, as many tweets are meant to be humorous in nature, in my opinion.

 

[Archangel7]

Thanks Eldee...
My question is what does this statement from that MSM mean, BBM me;

"The Spectator reports that an "investigative link" has been made between the three cases, prompting the Ontario Provincial Police to bring everything under one roof.
Presumably the link in question is the alleged connection to Bosma, making this move less about expanding the investigation and more about reorganizing the investigations that are already taking place."

It is possible the "investigative link" they found is tied to other cases the OPP is aware off/working on, meaning case 4, case 5.......

Likely it is simply a way to efficiently finance, supervise, share information, and remove any jurisdictional issues.

 

[Sillybilly]

Something to do with sex trade? We've heard LB did escort service and DM had a "romantic relationship" with her. Maybe there was more to that story then just a romantic relationship.

<rsbm>

from:
http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/missing-w...tionship-with-suspect-in-bosma-case-1.1310375

"I can say that (Laura and Dellen) were romantically linked although I would not say they had a traditional dating relationship," Carbone said.

<bbm>

If DM was one of LB's johns, one would not normally use the term "romantically". If they had a conventional romantic relationship, one would not normally say it was not traditional.

The non-traditional aspect makes me wonder if he was her pimp (escorts will frequently refer to their pimps as their "boyfriend") OR he was in another romantic relationship and seeing LB on the side.

 

[Alethea Dice]

Thanks Eldee...
My question is what does this statement from that MSM mean, BBM me;

"The Spectator reports that an "investigative link" has been made between the three cases, prompting the Ontario Provincial Police to bring everything under one roof.
Presumably the link in question is the alleged connection to Bosma, making this move less about expanding the investigation and more about reorganizing the investigations that are already taking place."

I think that was just a mistake. I think it was supposed to say "connection to Millard". If you read the linked Spec article that it refers to, it says:

While Chamberland would not say what the investigative link is between these three cases, it seems clear: Dellen Millard.

JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

<rsbm>

from:
http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/missing-w...tionship-with-suspect-in-bosma-case-1.1310375

<bbm>

If DM was one of LB's johns, one would not normally use the term "romantically". If they had a conventional romantic relationship, one would not normally say it was not traditional.

The non-traditional aspect makes me wonder if he was her pimp (escorts will frequently refer to their pimps as their "boyfriend") OR he was in another romantic relationship and seeing LB on the side.

My opinion's always been simply "friends with benefits".

 

[Bertie]

Or perhaps DM and LB were romantically involved while LB was with others as an escort as well. That could be described as a romantic relationship but not a traditional monogamous one, IMO.

 

[dizzy1]

Another Globe & Mail article:

On what triggered the major case management system
&#8220;Every once and a while, we will get linkages. Now, I can&#8217;t tell you what the linkages are because they may form part of the evidence possibly at some future court proceeding. But there were linkages made and that basically triggers the major case management model. &#8230; It&#8217;s three cases within one case, let&#8217;s say.&#8221;

On what it means to have a linkage
&#8220;The linkages could be as easy as a street name or a street address, could be a person&#8217;s name. Could be an object. It could be through [the Centre of Forensic Sciences], could be through DNA. Fingerprints. Those are linkages. Could be a statement, could be somebody that gave a statement in Hamilton&#8217;s case had information on a Toronto case. I&#8217;m not saying that&#8217;s the case.&#8221;

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/n...linked-opp/article14704340/?service=mobile#!/

 

[Bertie]

Could money be the possible link between the 3 cases?

The following are theories only:

1) Stole truck to get something for free and save his money, killed TB so he couldn't identify him. - motive: money
2) Killed WM to receive full inheritance if DM's funds were being restricted, or there was fear of it all being lost with the new projects, or there was fear of the new wife getting his share of the wealth. - motive: money
3) Killed LB if she was after his money. Perhaps through blackmail or if she were pregnant and he'd have to pay child support. motive: money

All MOO