The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 18th June - Trial Day 6, Week 2
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Police attended at Bwana-Castle at some stage didn't they? I wonder what they were offered their tea or coffee in? Mugs or cup & saucer?
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Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 53s
Dr Stark says marks on face don't appear to be fresh, not within last couple of hours, but hard to tell. @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay
Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 54s
Dr Stark says photo shows 2 types of injuries. One older than the other. But says it's an interpretation from a photo. #badenclay @abcnews
Dr Stark says marks on face don't appear to be fresh, not within last couple of hours, but hard to tell. @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay
Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 54s
Dr Stark says photo shows 2 types of injuries. One older than the other. But says it's an interpretation from a photo. #badenclay @abcnews
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Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 22s
Dr Stark says two different types of wounds, appears one older than the other. @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay
Jamie McKinnell ‏@jamie86 35s
Dr stark points out it's difficult to be precise about timing of two injuries, would be better to examine in person @NewsTalk4BC #badenclay
Dr Stark says two different types of wounds, appears one older than the other. @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay
Jamie McKinnell ‏@jamie86 35s
Dr stark points out it's difficult to be precise about timing of two injuries, would be better to examine in person @NewsTalk4BC #badenclay
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If Mrs Dickie smelt it Im sure the police would have as well. No mention of bleach though
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Sorry if it has already been answered? I remember something in the early stages about he stated he did the cuts on hand changing a light bulb in another house?
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Not sounding like fresh that morning, then.
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I'm sure she would have testified to that too....
Just a brief comment.
Firstly, I noticed that both Olivia and Gerard used the exact phrase: "don't want to be alarmist". 1) Gerard to emergency and police; 2) Olivia stated that her mother said this to her upon waking her up that morning.
Second, it's coincidental IMO that Allison's phone was identified in the neighbour's backyard after Olivia had been out and about that morning. It wasn't ringing earlier when they checked, then later it is located in the neighbour's backyard and it rings. Gerard had not left the house. NBC was out front with vacumn cleaner, etc. Interesting.
Firstly, I noticed that both Olivia and Gerard used the exact phrase: "don't want to be alarmist". 1) Gerard to emergency and police; 2) Olivia stated that her mother said this to her upon waking her up that morning.
Second, it's coincidental IMO that Allison's phone was identified in the neighbour's backyard after Olivia had been out and about that morning. It wasn't ringing earlier when they checked, then later it is located in the neighbour's backyard and it rings. Gerard had not left the house. NBC was out front with vacumn cleaner, etc. Interesting.
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David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 39s
Asked about the three wider injuries on Gerard's face, Dr Stark says they are 'typical of fingernail scratches' #badenclay
Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Speaking about the wide, large, abrasions, Dr Stark says they are "typical of fingernail scratches". #badenclay
Asked about the three wider injuries on Gerard's face, Dr Stark says they are 'typical of fingernail scratches' #badenclay
Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Speaking about the wide, large, abrasions, Dr Stark says they are "typical of fingernail scratches". #badenclay
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David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 25s
Dr Stark: if someone is clawing at you, as you pull away you won't necessarily get straight scratch lines #badenclay
Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 26s
Dr Stark says the marks won't be straight, "people will pull away" because it hurts. #badenclay
Ebony Cavallaro ‏@ebonycavallaro 27s
Forensic physician has told court marks on Gerard #badenclay's face are "typical of fingernail scratches" @9NewsBrisbane
Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 38s
Dr Stark says injuries are typical of fingernail scratches. Says it's not 100%, but typical of fingernails. #badenclay @abcnews
Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Dr Stark: This is a very typical presentation of fingernail scratches. #badenclay http://bit.ly/badenclayday6
Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 1m
Dr Stark says injuries are typical of fingernail scratches. But it's not 100% @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay
Katrina Blowers ‏@katrinablowers 1m
"These injuries are typical of fingernail scratches" forensic expert tells #badenclay trial. @7NewsBrisbane
Dr Stark: if someone is clawing at you, as you pull away you won't necessarily get straight scratch lines #badenclay
Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 26s
Dr Stark says the marks won't be straight, "people will pull away" because it hurts. #badenclay
Ebony Cavallaro ‏@ebonycavallaro 27s
Forensic physician has told court marks on Gerard #badenclay's face are "typical of fingernail scratches" @9NewsBrisbane
Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 38s
Dr Stark says injuries are typical of fingernail scratches. Says it's not 100%, but typical of fingernails. #badenclay @abcnews
Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Dr Stark: This is a very typical presentation of fingernail scratches. #badenclay http://bit.ly/badenclayday6
Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 1m
Dr Stark says injuries are typical of fingernail scratches. But it's not 100% @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay
Katrina Blowers ‏@katrinablowers 1m
"These injuries are typical of fingernail scratches" forensic expert tells #badenclay trial. @7NewsBrisbane
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12:13pm: Dr Stark said the scratches were "typical of fingernail scratches".
"It's not diagnostic, it's not 100 per cent, but in my experience ... this is a very typical presentation of being scratched with fingernails," she said.
12:12pm: The court has been shown a photograph of the scratches on Mr Baden-Clay's face.
"Certainly from the photographs they look as though they are abrasion injuries ... that results from contact with a rough surface," Dr Stark said.
She said there were three clear abrasions on Mr Baden-Clay's face, which appeared to be orange or yellow in colour, as well as smaller "redder" injuries.
"You've got three abrasion injuries; one vertically down the cheek and one running in an elliptical way ... and those injuries are sort of 'orangey' colour and then you've some redder abrasions," she said.
"That's suggesting maybe two sets of injuries caused at different times."
Dr Stark said the "redder" injuries may have occurred more recently than the "yellow" injuries.
"They're not fresh as in being ... in the last couple of hours, but they're hours or days old," she said, referring to the "yellow" injuries.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-6-week-2-20140618-3ackc.html#ixzz34x9NtG45
"It's not diagnostic, it's not 100 per cent, but in my experience ... this is a very typical presentation of being scratched with fingernails," she said.
12:12pm: The court has been shown a photograph of the scratches on Mr Baden-Clay's face.
"Certainly from the photographs they look as though they are abrasion injuries ... that results from contact with a rough surface," Dr Stark said.
She said there were three clear abrasions on Mr Baden-Clay's face, which appeared to be orange or yellow in colour, as well as smaller "redder" injuries.
"You've got three abrasion injuries; one vertically down the cheek and one running in an elliptical way ... and those injuries are sort of 'orangey' colour and then you've some redder abrasions," she said.
"That's suggesting maybe two sets of injuries caused at different times."
Dr Stark said the "redder" injuries may have occurred more recently than the "yellow" injuries.
"They're not fresh as in being ... in the last couple of hours, but they're hours or days old," she said, referring to the "yellow" injuries.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-6-week-2-20140618-3ackc.html#ixzz34x9NtG45
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Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 35s
Dr Stark says there may have been some bleeding. Not as much as with a wound laceration. #badenclay
Leonie Mellor ‏@leoniemellor 1m
Dr Margaret Stark says scratches on GBC's face are "typical of fingernail scratches". @abcnews #badenclay
Jamie McKinnell ‏@jamie86 1m
Dr Stark says the wider injuries are "typical of fingernail scratches" @NewsTalk4BC #badenclay
Dr Stark says there may have been some bleeding. Not as much as with a wound laceration. #badenclay
Leonie Mellor ‏@leoniemellor 1m
Dr Margaret Stark says scratches on GBC's face are "typical of fingernail scratches". @abcnews #badenclay
Jamie McKinnell ‏@jamie86 1m
Dr Stark says the wider injuries are "typical of fingernail scratches" @NewsTalk4BC #badenclay
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They obviously weren't there when he bought and took sausages to BWANA's and girls have not said anything about them being there before they went to bed. So stretching it out - happened between 7.00pm on 19/4 and 8.00am on 20/4. In the appropriate time frame!!
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12:13pm: Dr Stark said the scratches were "typical of fingernail scratches".
"It's not diagnostic, it's not 100 per cent, but in my experience ... this is a very typical presentation of being scratched with fingernails," she said.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-6-week-2-20140618-3ackc.html#ixzz34x9SDbvR
"It's not diagnostic, it's not 100 per cent, but in my experience ... this is a very typical presentation of being scratched with fingernails," she said.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-6-week-2-20140618-3ackc.html#ixzz34x9SDbvR
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David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 32s
Dr Stark asked how long fingernails would have to be, she says you need nails but can't say anything about length #badenclay
Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 48s
Dr Stark says you would have needed to have nails to make the scratches. Couldn't have had nails bitten down. #badenclay
Dr Stark asked how long fingernails would have to be, she says you need nails but can't say anything about length #badenclay
Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 48s
Dr Stark says you would have needed to have nails to make the scratches. Couldn't have had nails bitten down. #badenclay
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