KALI
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Humph. Like what? Spell it out jerk. We're taking our people out of your mess. Well, at least we'd better be.
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Watching all of this, I've truly learned to appreciate the USA's 2nd amendment.
Just my opinion.
As I feared and posted earlier, my concerns for lack of food seem to be happening.
All of this with the pandemic.
A very distressing situation.
I find this hard to believe. Come on, who the heck flies in or out of any country without being monitored? Name one country that just anybody can fly into our out of without documentation.
I call this statement typical cya, smoke and mirrors by politicians.
White House explains why it can't pinpoint number of Americans still in Afghanistan
The Biden administration has struggled to offer a specific number of Americans still in Afghanistan in recent days, prompting criticism from conservatives and others about the administration's preparedness to evacuate U.S. citizens.
White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan said Monday the difficulty pinpointing an exact number was because some Americans did not notify the U.S. Embassy when they arrived in Afghanistan or when they left.
"Many people have asked, reasonably, why we can’t provide a precise number of American citizens still in country," Sullivan said at a White House press briefing.
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White House explains why it can't pinpoint number of Americans still in Afghanistan
I thought the same thing. Every single American passport has a record of entering and/or leaving Afghanistan. There is a record of every American legally there, and of everyone who has legally left.
As I understand it, that information would be initially held by border control of the country entered. Given the chaos, it is conceivable, IMO, that the US government does not have access to that information. The US Embassy in Kabul also had staff destroy documents before they fled the Embassy building.
Finally, there is no requirement (AFIK & have read), for US citizens to register their presence with the US government, while they are in other countries. There is a voluntary "Smart Traveller," program, which Americans can sign up to. Here is some more general information about what the US government can/will do in normal times for citizens abroad.
What the Department of State Can and Can't Do in a Crisis
This is behind a pay wall so I can't read the entire article. When Biden took office he whipped out his pen and undid everything that Trump did. I'm supposed to believe that Biden couldn't do the same here? You just do not pull out troops before your citizens are out. There are a lot of mental gymnastics needed to blame this on Trump, who hasn't been in office for 7 months. Who gave the order to pull out on July 2nd? Who ordered the air base to be closed? Who ignored Intel that the Taliban would swoop in and take over? And as far as State Department warnings to leave, those warnings happen so often all over the world it is merely crying wolf. I would ask my son about those when they would pop up when he would call home. What's going on? What does this mean? Is the situation getting worse? He would say it is just another day in the Middle East.
As I understand it, that information would be initially held by border control of the country entered. Given the chaos, it is conceivable, IMO, that the US government does not have access to that information. The US Embassy in Kabul also had staff destroy documents before they fled the Embassy building.
Finally, there is no requirement (AFIK & have read), for US citizens to register their presence with the US government, while they are in other countries. There is a voluntary "Smart Traveller," program, which Americans can sign up to. Here is some more general information about what the US government can/will do in normal times for citizens abroad.
What the Department of State Can and Can't Do in a Crisis
Hanzalah Shinwari, 17, was among a group of Afghan U.S. citizens who were on the arriving flights.
The teenager, who lives in Haymarket, Va., said he had traveled to Kabul to visit friends and family.
Before he realized what was happening, he said, the U.S. military had pulled out and the Taliban was taking over province after province before sweeping into Kabul last week.
The day he was scheduled to leave, the airport was shut down.
Afghan refugees arrive in U.S., relieved and exhausted