The Rumor Mill -- unsubstantiated, yet possible relevant information

[deedee21]

KUDOS to John Ray and Mari Gilbert for fighting the fight. Im glad she found him.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

zero, I realize the site is more a study of the nut jobs in the case, and yet your still is still informative in any many ways. For instance there is one comment on your site where a poster says that John Bittrolff built garages in Oak Beach in the 90's and the poster personally saw bittrolff in Oak Beach. That is a huge relegation! But it kind of got glossed over with all talk of whacked out people. That comment alone should have sparked a huge discussion and you should have got to the bottom of it. If there is a real connection between OB and John Bittrolff, that is a big deal

 

[mcme]

...there is one comment on your site where a poster says that John Bittrolff built garages in Oak Beach in the 90's and the poster personally saw bittrolff in Oak Beach...

I'm pretty familiar with both Oak Beach and the O.I.B.A.,the two ends of "Oak Beach" and can only think of three separate building garages in the entire community. They're as old as the homes they service, not added or built later.

 

[deedee21]

Maybe the poster is not referring to building garages. Maybe Bittrolff built one or two car garage for a resident.

 

[Aleph]

What is a "building garage"? A workshop or shed?


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[mcme]

What is a "building garage"? A workshop or shed?


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A separate building, vs. one incorporated into the home. One can be built later, one is part of the home. There are three that are separate buildings, and none of them are from after the actual home was built.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

It sounds like you are an OB resident. If so, you should have a lot of information we are not privy too! It's too bad you didn't let us know sooner because your information could be very helpful. What can you tell about Lenny mcme? You are pretty adamant there was no one in Brewer's house with him that night. What do you know about that night that makes you say another man wasn't there? What happened that night?

 

[zero dinh]

It was me who first wrote in a post that Bittrolff worked on a home in oak beach. Later o few others talked about it in comments. There are reasons I've let it get glossed over so far. I am hoping the info is being checked on. If it s true and at this moment I don't have any reason not to believe it then it still might not mean nothing. This case is plagued with coincidences. But I found it hard not to wonder who at oak beach knew Bittrolff.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

It was you? But I thought it was tooclosetohome who claimed they personally saw bitrolff in Oak Beach in the 90s

 

[LindsayLohan6]

He didn’t want to be identified but told us, “The nail polish from the pedicure was still fresh when I found them.”

http://pix11.com/2016/06/09/early-evidence-of-li-serial-killer-appeared-20-years-ago-on-fire-island/

 

[LindsayLohan6]

"whats ur fetish?" page 6
****** Feb 23 2007 : Hmmm. I like really nice feet...petite "fire-engine" red nail polish

 

[mcme]

It sounds like you are an OB resident. If so, you should have a lot of information we are not privy too! It's too bad you didn't let us know sooner because your information could be very helpful. What can you tell about Lenny mcme? You are pretty adamant there was no one in Brewer's house with him that night. What do you know about that night that makes you say another man wasn't there? What happened that night?

It's never been a secret that I live in Babylon's barrier beach community. Part of the problem, as I see it, is that you imagine I or any other resident would be privy to any info that isn't already known. The thought that there's some conspiracy between neighbors to cover up something, or that everyone knows what happened and won't talk is silly.
LL6, to be clear, I'm not adamant that there wasn't anyone else besides MP and JB at the home that night with SG, I'm adamant that the theory there was a third person flies in the face of what's been said in interviews with people we know were there and what police sources with a name and a face have said. One N.Y.Post article with zero supporting info doesn't change my mind about that.
I don't know anything about "Lenny" or anyone else who might have stayed with JB.

 

[zero dinh]

I first mentioned it in a post called The JB's of LISK. Then TooClose commented about it confirming it could be true. Again I don't know if it means anything but if it's true it was something new at least and should be looked into and I believe it is. I know which home he supposedly worked on but again am waiting to see what it all comes to. I'm sure it will be discussed quite a bit when it comes out. Whether it has meaning or not. Being as that I seemed to be the first with the info it was not easy to not discuss it. But if it is new solid info, it needs to be dealt with before it's infected by the internet. Like this whole third person thing: some say it's a fact others aren't so sure. Everyone reads or hears something and it's fact. This case has had an echo chamber on it for so long that it's worse than any telephone game they showed us in school.

 

[zero dinh]

The whole fetish thing is very plausible. Again depending on the echo chambers accuracy. But if indeed stories of nail polish or missing shoes are correct, a foot fetish of some sort could be a key. I'm hoping we are gonna find quite a bit out with the Bittrolff case

 

[Notorious]

Hello...she tried to do this! Gus colleti wouldn't let her inside, she was locked outside helpless! He says hold on let me call 911....she's like "**** that I'm already on the phone with 911 and that's not going to safe my life RIGHT NOW! Let me in you old ****!" Nope he won't let her in, so she keeps running..lucid, common sense decision

Lindsey, hello....how do you even know this? According to his version of events he told her to come in and he offered to call police. Did you hear the 911 tape?

His exact words taken from this CBS interview:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/profile-of-potential-li-serial-killer-released/

Coletti recalled, "I opened the door and she came in and she just stood there, staring at me yelling, 'Help, help me.'"

He called 911 for help, but Gilbert ran away, slipping down his steps, and then briefly hid under his boat before running off."

I don't see how that's a common sense decision if we are going by his version of events. Him calling 911 would've made sense because he lives there in Oak Beach and can explain tell the police exactly where they are, whereas Shannan had no idea where she was.

 

[Notorious]

About this drifter guy..... I don't know much about him. I only learned of him after coming here. I can understand his possible involvement in Shannan's case but I cannot see where he fits into the other cases. Now maybe I am wrong but the name "drifter" implies that he has no home and is most likely living a nomadic lifestyle. "He has a penchant for strippers.".....so do a lot of men. Strippers and hookers are not the same thing. If he's homeless, we have to assume he's also penniless. If that's the case, how would he even afford an escort? I don't see how he even fits into this whole thing. How is he posting on Utopia Guide? Where would he have a computer or he's homeless?

 

[LindsayLohan6]

Notorious, your logical deductions are brilliant! He's penniless yet he has a penchant for strippers. Just because he was described as a drifter and he was staying at Brewer's doesn't mean he doesn't have money. There are many possibilities. He could have a job where he always works from laptop doesn't need to be in any set location. I'm not sure why you are assuming he wasn't paying Brewer rent. You don't see how fits into the whole thing. Yea...right....since he was only there in the house with the Shannan and Brewer.

About Coletti, he changed his story later on to making Shannan wait outside while he called 911.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

Here's a version where she doesn't go inside:

“I hear somebody screaming and bang-bang on the door,” said Coletti. “I opened the door, and she [Shannon] stood right there. I said, ’What’s the matter?’ And she kept saying ‘Help me.’

http://www.examiner.com/article/long-island-serial-killer-and-shannan-gilbert-featured-documentary

It's going to take some digging through the threads but I'm pretty sure there is a version where he doesn't let her inside. If some girl was pounding on my door at 5 am I certainly wouldn't let her inside and I doubt Gus did. I suspect he talked to her through the closed door or just opened it a crack.

 

[Notorious]

Notorious, your logical deductions are brilliant! He's penniless yet he has a penchant for strippers. Just because he was described as a drifter and he was staying at Brewer's doesn't mean he doesn't have money. There are many possibilities. He could have a job where he always works from laptop doesn't need to be in any set location. I'm not sure why you are assuming he wasn't paying Brewer rent. You don't see how fits into the whole thing. Yea...right....since he was only there in the house with the Shannan and Brewer.

About Coletti, he changed his story later on to making Shannan wait outside while he called 911.

Oh so now he's a telecommuting drifter. Lmao.

Again, read what I wrote. I said that I can se how he relates to Shannon's case but not the rest of the women. If this "drifter" was such an important piece of the puzzle, we'd know his name. Someone, somewhere along the way would've figured it out.

As far as the Gus Coletti stories, I will take CBS's reporting over the Examiner. Yet another gossip site.

 

[LindsayLohan6]

Oh so now he's a telecommuting drifter. Lmao.

Again, read what I wrote. I said that I can se how he relates to Shannon's case but not the rest of the women. If this "drifter" was such an important piece of the puzzle, we'd know his name. Someone, somewhere along the way would've figured it out.

As far as the Gus Coletti stories, I will take CBS's reporting over the Examiner. Yet another gossip site.

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