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I disagree. KO was applying her own experiences. Ex. Maureen went to NYC because she was facing an eviction. She escorted because she needed rent money. Amber escorted because she was a heroin addict. Seems like MW would have been more than happy to get out of the life. But she had someone by her side who was not going to let that happen. Different reasons for different folks. Escorts and johns dont turn to adds because they are looking for someone to share a line of coke with.

Don't forget the story about Maureen buying weed...i know many people smoke weed but if she's buying marijuana facing eviction well then you know what I'm saying...every penny isn't going to rent thats all
 
Don't forget the story about Maureen buying weed...i know many people smoke weed but if she's buying marijuana facing eviction well then you know what I'm saying...every penny isn't going to rent thats all
I understand what your saying. But its not the common thread.
 
I understand what your saying. But its not the common thread.

How do you know? Coke was present at JBs, Amber was a junky isn't it possible Maureen, Megan and Melissa all used drugs? The manorville males teeth certainly looks like methadone users so I do think drugs could be a common theme. Some AC4 victims were coke users like Kim and Barbara
 
Don't forget the story about Maureen buying weed...i know many people smoke weed but if she's buying marijuana facing eviction well then you know what I'm saying...every penny isn't going to rent thats all

That's harsh. Anyone doing what she did all day might need a bit of weed. And we don't know the details of her money situation.
 
That's harsh. Anyone doing what she did all day might need a bit of weed. And we don't know the details of her money situation.

Yeah, from what I've read about MBB, she was trying to get out of that life, and only went back to it because no one would hire her for a straight job and she was facing eviction.
 
I understand what your saying. But its not the common thread.

The common thread amongst all these girls was not cocaine.

It was lack of education and poverty.

I don't think Amber, Maureen, Megan, Melissa or Shannan had a High School Diploma;
I think all of them had G.E.D's.

Poverty is a very harsh reality in the world of prostitution - some of the girls had children and no husband (or baby daddy) around.
It was left to the mom's to handle all the responsibilities of raising those kids. These girls had kids when they themselves
were kids.

It's a harsh reality, but poverty is an ugly ugly reality in the United States, and when you are poor and hungry and starving
you will make decisions that lead you down a dark dangerous path that you would NEVER EVER EVER do otherwise.

No one wants to be pimped out by pimps. Being beaten on a nightly basis to make the quota of the pimp. Having your birth
name changed to a derogatory name. Catching diseases from clients. Not having health care. Taking a risk with every client that
he could beat you up because he's sick. It's a very dangerous way to make your month's rent.

Sooner or later you start taking drugs to numb the pain of the reality of the hell you're in.

These little girls lost their lives because they were so innocent and naive and thought nothing bad could ever happen to them.
 
Every once in a while someone writes something worth reading ( see above )
 
lol...not even sure where to begin....Maybe back read a page or two...

Some of us had been discussing this guy Harry...and any possible connection. So I wanted to do a bit of research and came up with a few somewhat maybe interesting facts that I was trying to post.... they seem to have got lost/snowed under in the last page...which is cool....BUT...in an attempt to repost some of those things my Ipad decided I wasn't allowed to post and kept crashing every time I wrote something...in sheer frustration I posted a very quick post...which managed to go through - the one De responded too.

OK I m not saying that the girls themselves were into Cocaine.....maybe..just maybe the players around them were.

this is really disjointed.....I apologise...

Lyndsay...I was trying my best to find your Lenny....their were Photographers, crewmen on Captree Boats, Lennys who picked up mates to go fishing off Gilgo.....I couldn't find any that I could directly tie back to J Brewer or that house..

But assuming whom ever was staying there...they had to be a friend... CAN YOU describe if you remember the image of the Lenny you said you saw in a photo??
 
ohhh on a side note...the last address for Harry I could find was 216 29th Street New York.....totally blown away how close to the last sighting of Maureen...

Just another coinky dink....
 
That's harsh. Anyone doing what she did all day might need a bit of weed. And we don't know the details of her money situation.

I agree with you Aleph. I'm not even positive Maureen was buying weed to be honest, I have to check lost girls.
 
If you guys can get your hands on the 1985 Newsday articles on the Feingold family in the drug business you might come up with some new theories of what this is all about. It is not going to jump off the page at you because it rarely does. I believe the reporter was trying to make a point through inferences because he didn't have the solid evidence to put it in print.

Feingold seemed to have immunity and operated with impunity. Flashy cars and living large and didn't seem to care who knew. He crashes and burns and gets arrested and convicted in a suffolk court. It appears as though he is removed to a federal prison when he was convicted in a Suffolk Court. It looks like he did 10 years.

Moves into the *advertiser censored* and sex business and he doesn't care who knows. Openly advertises on the Internet. He is also doing Russian Brides. He has several business and residential locations right near 34th street, Manhattan - a stone's throw from where the gals stroll and the discarded kids hang out.

This stuff is not hard to do if you know what you are doing. If you had the resources of the government it should be a piece of cake. Our friend PUGGLE is in Australia and has come up with more information than all of us that live right here.
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What is more interesting about the Stricoff connection ( top dog with Bellone) is when he runs out of government funded jobs he winds up with other pals at 6901 Jericho Turnpike, Syosset, NY. This is the same location Adam Skelos wound up for his no show job. It is also the same place I found about $250,000.00 being funneled through for a DA in another county.

But the crooks need a presence on the South Shore. 1 Cross Island Plaza, Rosedale, NY has all sorts of curious characters.
 
Hawk, I'm curious...in your opinion, why isn't anyone listening to you? I mean, at this point, there is proof you were right all along. Aren't there any reporters who want to bust this story wide open? At this point I think we all see a connection between the "fine gold" family and Spota. I don't understand why no media is doing an expose on all this. And I imagine that even if no other major media outlet wanted to touch it, the NY Post would *love* to get credit for bringing down Democrat Spota. Or even if local media is in his pockets, what about The National Enquirer? It's just crazy to me that there is so much here to explore and no one with the power to publish is going deeper.

ETA: Awesome work, Puggle!!
 
Truth is nobody really knows what they are doing. for the most part what we see is 'smoke and mirrors.' For whatever it is worth I have a story that makes what you see in Suffolk County looks like a Peter Pan story in comparison. It is HUGE and a BLOCKBUSTER and IMO will have a lot of people running for cover. We are aware of the obstacles in putting this case forward. I believe if this story is resolved someone is going to write a check to the victim for at least 10M. We think $25M is closer to the actual damages.

My friend you put too much faith in the system. The system is designed to perpetuate itself, not seek out the truth because they CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

I think the reason why Spota has not yet resigned is it is all attached to the timing when he will resign and who will replace him. July 18 is a critical moment as to who will replace him. The object of the exercise is to ensure the status quo.

Look at it this way. Bernie Madoff stole 50B over 25= years. A guy was jumping up and down saying he was doing it. You saw the movie. NOBODY cared. You had 19 terrorists come to this country and hi-jacked our planes. How does the government you might think it is miss this?

I believe the FBI investigation in Suffolk is being run out of NY/Brooklyn by agents from there. Public Corruption out of D.C. may also be a factor. Figure it out for yourself.

I did get a couple of big and working stories in the press with Newsday. Got the Times involved to some extent. NOBODY CARES !!!

If Shannon hadn't gone to Brewer's house and disappeared do you think what you see today would have happened? If a stink wasn't raised.....ditto....if a DOG didn't find 4 bodies..etc.,
 
If you guys can get your hands on the 1985 Newsday articles on the Feingold family in the drug business you might come up with some new theories of what this is all about. It is not going to jump off the page at you because it rarely does. I believe the reporter was trying to make a point through inferences because he didn't have the solid evidence to put it in print.

Feingold seemed to have immunity and operated with impunity. Flashy cars and living large and didn't seem to care who knew. He crashes and burns and gets arrested and convicted in a suffolk court. It appears as though he is removed to a federal prison when he was convicted in a Suffolk Court. It looks like he did 10 years.

Moves into the *advertiser censored* and sex business and he doesn't care who knows. Openly advertises on the Internet. He is also doing Russian Brides. He has several business and residential locations right near 34th street, Manhattan - a stone's throw from where the gals stroll and the discarded kids hang out.

This stuff is not hard to do if you know what you are doing. If you had the resources of the government it should be a piece of cake. Our friend PUGGLE is in Australia and has come up with more information than all of us that live right here.
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I'd love to get my hands on the 1985 article your talking about......Unfortunately I don't have a Newsday account......all I can get is a few sentences and then blackened out blurb.

If someone has an account .... you can just type in searches using Newsday Archive .....Archive Newsday Suffolk news

Maybe we might get lucky ... Hawk it sounds like you have read.. it as you mentioned what you believe the reporter may have been hinting at....Do you have the Link?
 
Rule of thumb for serial killer investigations.. there is rarely, if ever, a monetary incentive among corrupt cops to deliberately fudge, or mishandle, the case. Lack of evidence, lack of necessary PC, lack of reliable tips, etc.. trump all nefarious conspiracies. Even the most on the take cop would most likely not protect a co-worker or friend if they were suspected of murdering prostitutes.
 
I can't say I disagree with your over-all premise on this case. I also believe even a less than good cop would gie his left nut to bring this case in. The problem is not the detectives, the problem is with the people that are running it. IMO
 
thing is they claimed they had a suspect in 2011 so i'm not sure what happened...it seems like they know but can't prove or he's dead i.e. (RH or HF)
 
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