Just to be clear, when you sign your rights away to a child, you are no longer their parent. So in keeping things real, AB is not MJ's daughter, nor is MJ AB's dad.
I'm reading where some are saying that AB should be able to choose where she lives because of her age. So in saying that do you think she should be able to choose to go live with a friends family? Seriously? So if she chose to just go live with one of her friends she should be able to do that? MJ has no legal rights to GB's child. Period.
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And it's not like GB and JB were the only people fooled by AM. There have been plenty of people interviewed who never dreamed AM would do anything like this.
I also wonder if the "say no evil" syndrome was in play.
People are really reluctant to say bad things about someone to a person who may be that person's friend. Once that person has been hurt, then people in the know start to speak up because they feel it's becoming common knowledge. But until that person has been hurt, people just don't talk.
I agree and this happens a lot. Most times it seems people don't speak up to do what I consider the right thing (warn people). It's as if they don't care unless it's happening to them. Sad times.
I don't believe AM was still around when GB woke up, because of the specualtion by GB and LE they all ran off together.
I don't recall reading that LE and GB thought that AM and JB ran off together. Can you give me a link, please?
As for the relationship being strong between JB and GB, hey we all have our days, but they were married for eleven years. That means a lot to me. I have a friend that when she was younger she and her husband would argue and she'd get in her car and leave, cool down and go back. Sometimes it would be for a couple of hours or a couple of days. I never understood it but it happens that way with some people.
I feel sick. wreg3 should never have posted that, IMO, and they should remove it. What is wrong with people?! (rhetorical)
I am glad they got it out there what MJ is up to. He is not a victim. JB, AB, AB, KB, and GB are. He needs to back up.
The issue here is that the biological father is concerned that if Gary takes them out of state he will MOVE out of state.
Before the abductions they were preparing to do what?
Move out of the state.
Exactly!
Also, MJ and GB should probably get some kind of counseling or mediation together, to make sure they are in agreement about how to keep the girls safe.
It makes me mad that some people commenting on the WREG site are outright accusing MJ of trying to cash in on his daughter by getting custody and selling her story. There is NO indication that is his motive! This guy just lost one daughter... can people at least understand why he might want to cling to the other daughter right now?
With all due respect~
MJ doesn't need to be in counseling with this family. They are no longer a part of his family, by his choice!
I do feel like MJ is trying to cash in on this, sorry if that offends but I call it like I see it. I may be right, or you may be right, only time will tell. Regardless with the funds that is being collected for his family, which his family does not include AB any longer, then that shouts volumes. If he's not trying to cash in then take those funds and deposit them into the account for the B family.
He didn't lose a daughter. He lost a child he use to have rights to.
Yes, I'm bitter about people doing this to the kids. I've seen it to many times to be affected but yet I am deeply, especially by the one in my own family.
MJ's problem is that he did something that the court would have made absolutely crystal clear was irrevocable: relinquish his parental rights. That is MJ's problem and he is using extremely poor judgment in making it his daughter's problem as well. That child needs stability in her life, not more questions about where she is going to be living.
I am not familiar with Tennessee law and I'm not a lawyer. I don't think I've ever heard of a state where someone who relinquished their parental rights voluntarily could come back and say "oops, I wish I hadn't done it. I know what, let's have a DO OVER!"
MJ was apparently fine with it when the Bains were planning to move back to Arizona at the end of the school year.
The Bains weren't moving for frivolous reasons; two of the three girls had/have asthma, which is eased by the drier climate of Arizona. The family has ties to Arizona because they lived there for quite a long time.
I'm hoping that when MJ finds a lawyer, that lawyer tells him that there's a snowflake's chance on a red hot griddle that the courts will even hear the case.
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Loudly Thank you for the excellent post!
Perhaps the girls' asthma was a serious and costly condition and the insurance that biodad might have provided only covered the state he lived in, so it would make sense for the stepdad's insurance to pick them up. Not sure how all of the technicalities of insurance work, each state is different, many insurers are becoming more picky about who they will insure. So it could have been something like that which motivated the decision to sign them over.
Dad was self employed so I am doubting that he had insurance. I am not doubting that he probably is a more stable and better provider for his family than MJ.
This could have been handled so much better.
Saying you don't care who you make mad, you want a lawyer to get the child you allowed to be adopted back... Probably wasn't the best route. Now he's basically declared war... and isn't likely to get much cooperation.
I would never trust MJ as far as I could spit now. Too fickle, imo. You can have them, pay for them, love them, care for them and be their dad. Nope, changed my mind I want them back. Nope I changed my mind again you can have her back again. :banghead:
This is my opinion. I don't know if AM had a relationship with her bio dad. It said he signed his rights away only a year ago. He also is married with smaller children and is around JB's age. Gary is well into his 60's and now a widower. He is going to have a hard time just taking care of the 8 yr old. I can also understand MJ's concerns. He believed that he was doing what was best for AM when he signed the rights over to JB and GB, they were a happy family and combined together as a family. I can also understand MJ's feelings now, after not knowing all that had gone on with Adam in their life. And the charges from 2009 against Adam. I think that they should take in to consideration how Alex feels about this. And I think that should be the deciding factor. But I do understand MJ's feelings on this. I really can't understand how GB was so blind to Adam for all these years and why he was allowed to be in their life so much.
Age of the dad and birth dad make no difference in the love and care of a child. I'm betting that MJ has more kids than he takes care of now and would love to know if those children are benefiting from state assistance, and nothing wrong with that if it's needed. One of my issues with MJ is that he has two children, gives them away, pops out three other children with someone else and probably isn't providing well enough for them either. So if they split will he sign his rights away again? Enough already for me!
Since this was so obviously NOT the case, he has every right to change his mind at this time, and make sure his daughter is protected and given every appropriate type of help she might need now that EVERYTHING about her life situation has changed. IMO, the very fact that this whole thing happened absolutely proves that this child and her little sister MUST have someone step forward to protect them and make better decisions about who is allowed access to them in the future. Their current family failed them miserably, IMO of course.jmo
The reason MJ didn't make this same mistake could be because he wasn't the one taking care of AB and AB. I'm betting GB is feeling very taken and hurt that someone he allowed access to his children, all of them not just the two that he adopted, with this psycho.
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