Identified! TN - Knox Co, 'Shotgun Jane Doe' WhtFem 607UFTN, 21-30, Jun'87 - Tena Marie Gattrell

chaddylex · Aug 11, 2015

chaddylex said:
I already received an email back from Amy. They are still waiting on Janet Knife's DNA to come back. They are looking into the possible match.

I just looked in NamUs. Janet Knife is ruled out as being Shot gun Jane Doe.

Roselvr · Aug 12, 2015

236 Exclusions

The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
ROBYN ADLER 1960 Florida
Ellen Akers 1966 Florida
Tammy Akers 1962 Virginia
Elaine Allenbach 1965 Washington
Angela Ambrocio 1967 Florida
Cynthia Anderson 1961 Ohio
Maria Anjiras 1961 Connecticut
Andria Bailey 1963 Washington
Nancy Baird 1952 Utah
Rose Baker 1940 Texas
SHARI BALL 1963 Florida
Lynn Bandringa 1945 California
Donna Barnhill 1967 North Carolina
Susan Bender 1970 California
Bonita Bickwit 1958 New York
Amy Billig 1957 Florida
Priscilla Blevins 1948 North Carolina
Kristy Booth 1960 Texas
Lisa Borden 1960 Texas
Nancy Brannon 1952 Missouri
Janet Brice 1961 Louisiana
Niki Britten 1953 Oregon
Kimberly Britts 1963 Virginia
Peggy Byars-Baisden 1941 Florida
Rosemary Calandriello 1952 New Jersey
Aida Calfee 1955 Georgia
Joy Cannon 1956 Tennessee
Benita Chamberlin 1953 Oregon
Debra Cole 1969 Indiana
Kathryn Collins 1957 Texas
Darlene Conklin 1959 New York
Jana Coonan 1959 Massachusetts
Carla Corley 1965 Alabama
Jan Cotta 1954 New Jersey
Barbara Cotton 1965 North Dakota
Brenda Crowley 1963 New York
Valarie Cuccia 1953 New York
Beverli Darnell 1961 Florida
Evelyn Davis 1962 Ohio
Linda Davis 1946 Oklahoma
Freda Denman 1947 Missouri
Peggy Dianovsky 1954 Illinois
Carol Donn 1963 Florida
Kimberly Doss 1962 Florida
Kathleen Durst 1952 New York
Diane Dye 1965 California
Christine Eastin 1952 California
Carol Edwards 1955 Washington
Elizabeth Eisel 1962 Washington
Ann Ellinwood 1965 Oregon
Megan Emerick 1956 Alaska
Loy Evitts 1947 Kansas
Sherry Eyerly 1963 Oregon
Leann Faulk 1963 Maryland
Tammy L. Fields 1965
Theresa Fischbach 1969 Texas
Nellie Flickinger 1949 Pennsylvania
Laura Flink 1947 Washington
Dixie Forrester 1939 Missouri
Margaret Fox 1960 New Jersey
Erica Franolich 1960 New York
AMANDA FRAVEL 1966 Nevada
Rose Gayhart 1962 New York
Theresa Geaves 1959 Utah
Trenny Gibson 1960 Tennessee
Sharon Giusti 1943 Washington
Paula Godfrey 1965 Kansas
Martha Green 1970 Tennessee
Shannon Green 1969 Kentucky
Cherry Greenman 1956 Washington
Kathryn Gregory 1957 Washington
Linda Grimm 1961 California
APRIL GRISANTI 1964 Connecticut
Jamie Grissim 1955 Washington
Corinne Groenenberg 1957 California
Julie Grubaugh 1961 Arizona
Billie Jean Hall 1960 Maryland
Joan Hall 1966 Oregon
Teresa Hammon 1963 California
Darla Harper 1960 Arkansas
Diana Harris 1953 Florida
Evelyn Hartley 1937 Wisconsin
Terrie Hefner 1964 Texas
Lorraine Herbster 1962 New Jersey
Frankie Horsley 1964 North Carolina
Michelle Houchman 1967 California
Tinze Huels 1967 Florida
Wendy Huggy 1965 Florida
Barbara Hunt 1964 Virginia
Rochelle Ihm 1966 Arizona
Nancy Jason 1900 Maryland
Rita Jolly 1955 Oregon
Kimberly Jones 1983 West Virginia
Gail Katz-Bierenbaum 1956 New York
Patricia Kelley Tennessee
Terry Kelley 1953 California
Rebecca Kellison 1954 Colorado
Patricia Kelly Unknown Tennessee
Patricia Lousie Kelly 1957
Kimberly Kersey 1968 Washington
Cindy King 1961 Oregon
Tracy King 1960 Pennsylvania
Hazel Klug 1962 Virginia
Janet Knife 1959 Missouri
Vicke Lamberton 1949 Massachusetts
Ruth Leamon 1966 California
Patricia Leblanc 1968 Washington
Karen Lee 1961 Oregon
Tammy Leppert 1965 Florida
Cynthia Leslie 1959 Arizona
Jackie Leslie 1961 Arizona
Lori Lloyd 1961 Ohio
Mary Long 1964 California
Charlotte Loomis 1958 New Jersey
Debora Lowe 1958 Florida
Carol Lubahn 1954 California
Annabelle Ludwig 1941 Ohio
Lynn Luray 1948 California
Dorothy Madden 1948 Ohio
Sheree Magaro 1956 Maryland
Elizabeth Maggard 1961 Kentucky
Tammy Mahoney 1961 New York
Cynthia Maine 1959 California
Aleca Manning 1952 Arizona
Sherry Marler 1971 Alabama
Carolyn Martin 1957 Michigan
Leslie Martin-Porter 1959 California
Jonelle Matthews 1972 Colorado
Shirley McBride 1969 New Hampshire
Tammie McCormick 1972 New York
Sharon McCully 1959 Texas
Tamera McCurry 1960 Texas
Angela Meeker 1965 Washington
Deborah Meyer 1958 Wyoming
Diana Miller 1962 Pennsylvania
Elizabeth Miller 1969 Colorado
Connie Minchaca 1960 California
Barbara Monaco 1960 Virginia
Barbara Monaco 1960 Virginia
Kimberly Moreau 1969 Maine
Kelly Morrissey 1968 New York
Michelle Mulcahy 1961 Florida
Debra Murr 1956 Tennessee
Pamela Nater 1946 Florida
Pamela Neal 1960 Colorado
Audrey Nerenberg 1958 New York
Dana Null 1963 Florida
Donna O'Banion 1960 Louisiana
Mary Opitz 1963 Florida
Patricia Otto 1952 Idaho
Jeanne Overstreet 1963 Arizona
Jennifer Pandos 1971 Virginia
Eleanor Parker 1962 Louisiana
Kristina Perkins 1953 Arizona
Cynthia Perry 1968 North Carolina
Dean Pyle Peters 1966 Michigan
Linda Peterson 1949 Utah
Elizabeth Pfeifer 1965 Texas
Mary Plavnick 1962 Florida
Madeline Ponds 1969 Mississippi
Denise Porch 1954 North Carolina
Tamara Porrin 1971 Pennsylvania
Wanda Priddy 1958 Texas
Debra Pscholka 1958 California
Behdokht Pyke 1952 Florida
Kathryn Quackenbush 1964 Maryland
Deborah Quimby 1963 Massachusetts
Laureen Rahn 1966 New Hampshire
Sondra Ramber 1969 Texas
Angela Ramsey 1961 Florida
Kathleen Randall 1958 Georgia
Mary Rawlinson 1966 California
Donnis Redman 1943 California
Michele Reidenbach 1964 Pennsylvania
Michelle Reidenbach 1964 Pennsylvania
Leichia Reilly 1963 New York
Marcia Remick 1962 Virginia
Linda Reynolds 1952 Arkansas
Simone Ridinger 1960 Massachusetts
Susan Riedling 1967 Kentucky
Susan Riedling 1967 Kentucky
Sherry Roach 1959 California
Rochelle Robbins 1951 California
Elaine Robertson 1955 Washington
Christine Rodriguez 1966 California
Alma Root 1965 California
Nancy Rose 1950 Idaho
Cindy Rowles 1968 New York
Doris SCANDALIS 1930 California
Lucinda Schaefer 1962 California
Gayla Schaper 1951 Idaho
Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia
Diane Schulte 1954 Idaho
Suzanne Schultz 1961 Wisconsin
Lynne Schulze 1953 Vermont
Khymbrly SCRUGGS 1960 California
Beverly Sharpman 1930 Pennsylvania
Denise Sheehy 1954 New York
Martha Shelton 1944 Kentucky
Mary Shinn 1953 Arkansas
Barbara Shumac 1953 Pennsylvania
Catherine Sjoberg 1957 Wisconsin
Bertha Smith 1913 Arizona
Cindy Smith 1960 Florida
Debra Spickler 1955 Connecticut
Mary Sprague 1960 Florida
Vicki Arleen Sundgaard 1963
Sheri Swims 1961 Florida
Mary Ann Switalski 1946 Illinois
Michelle Thomas 1967 Texas
Kimberly Thompson 1961 Illinois
Nadine Timm 1935 Illinois
Pamela Tinsley 1966 Oklahoma
Deborah Tomlinson 1957 Oregon
Mary Trlica 1957 Texas
Donna Urban 1959 Delaware
Leah Van Schoick 1965 Florida
Emma Vaughn 1967 Florida
Wilma Vermaas 1952 California
Floradean Walker 1925 Texas
Sheree Warren 1960 Utah
Darlene Webb 1962 Florida
Virginia Welch 1960 Virginia
Christina White 1967 Washington
Rochelle White 1951 California
Nancy Willis 1961 Tennessee
Nancy Willis 1961 Tennessee
Karen Wilson 1963 New York
Lisa Wilson 1960 Texas
Verla Winter 1939 Washington
Cynthia Woolard 1957 Florida
Judy WORRELL 1957 California
Cheryl Wyant 1964 California
Jennifer Wyant 1958 Tennessee
Amy Yachimec 1968 Arizona
Karen Zendrosky 1963 New Jersey

rainwater · Aug 12, 2015

Submitted Frances (Francis?) Crownover as possible match, per Sam Spade's request upthread on previous page 28. Namus spells her first name Frances, Charley Project has it spelled Francis. Not sure which is the correct spelling, although the female version is usually Frances. I did mention the timing seemed off, but you never know.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/crownover_francis.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/24020/0/

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ArtsyOwl · Aug 17, 2015

Hi, I have been lurking on this thread for a while and I know it's a long shot but I was wondering whether Rose Lena Cole has been considered?

She disappeared back in 1972/73 when she was 15/16 years old, and so a lot of things could have happened between then and 1987; such as accidents, changing her hair color, losing weight etc.

Anyway, I didn't see her name among the list of exclusions and so I thought that it would be no harm in mentioning her as a possibility?

Rose's chin is very similar as well as her nose to the reconstruction pictures of SJD, and her photos look similar to the age regression pictures as well

Anyway, here is her case on the Charley Project website, what do you think?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cole_rose.html

Roselvr · Aug 17, 2015

ArtsyOwl said:
Hi, I have been lurking on this thread for a while and I know it's a long shot but I was wondering whether Rose Lena Cole has been considered?

She disappeared back in 1972/73 when she was 15/16 years old, and so a lot of things could have happened between then and 1987; such as accidents, changing her hair color, losing weight etc.

Anyway, I didn't see her name among the list of exclusions and so I thought that it would be no harm in mentioning her as a possibility?

Rose's chin is very similar as well as her nose to the reconstruction pictures of SJD, and her photos look similar to the age regression pictures as well

Anyway, here is her case on the Charley Project website, what do you think?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cole_rose.html

Here is her NamUs; have to come back later as I have a full day. She has DNA in NamUs so will be an easy rule in/out

ArtsyOwl · Aug 17, 2015

Great to hear that she has DNA in NamUs, it makes things a lot easier for sure.
I understand life can get busy, so whenever you get the free time-no worries.
Thanks so much.

Earth · Aug 17, 2015

rainwater · Aug 17, 2015

Have we ever mentioned Regina Brown, missing March 1987 from CT as a possible match? She is not on the ruleout list.

Namus link: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2018/0/

http://www.nampn.org/cases/brown_regina.html 4 separate pictures of her at the NAMPN link, plus a very detailed description of events surrounding her disappearance.

She was a flight attendant stationed in CT; that doesn't necessarily mean she was raised in CT. She could have been raised in one of the Southern states that Jane's isotope testing showed. Namus lists Ms. Brown as African-American.

I'm thinking maybe with the stress of being separated from her husband, she just decided to walk away and try to start over? She was scared of someone/something so she fled to start a new life? Would her dog be "barking wildly" at someone the dog recognized?

rainwater · Aug 22, 2015

I heard back. Frances Crownover has been ruled out based on dental comparison with SJD dentals. Frances's name will be added to the Namus ruleout list in the near future.

rainwater · Sep 23, 2015

OK guys, we found out something this morning from Amy Dobbs, the NAMUS rep, that is HUGE!!!!!!

SJD was isotope- retested in 2014. Originally, based on the first isotope tests done several years ago, it was believed she came from one of the following 13 Southern states:
Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, or Florida.

NEW TESTING SHOWS SJD was from one of the following states: Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, Maryland, West Virginia & Virginia.

chaddylex · Sep 25, 2015

Yesterday I had time here at work to look and see if I could find any missing girls that kind of fit the description of Shotgun Jane Doe. I narrowed it down to the states that Rainwater listed in her above post. I found this girl, Cynthia Schmidt missing from Minnesota. I sent the following email to Amy Dobbs at NamUS
Hi Amy,

I know you are wanting to find out who the UP #1567 is, (and so do I) and I didn’t see this girl, Cynthia Schmidt on the rule out list. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12427/1/
https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-divisions/administrative/Documents/SchmidtCynthia.pdf
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/schmidt_cynthia.html

Cynthia went missing in August 1986.. She had a fractured leg it states in her NamUS file, ( I believe the opposite legs, but I still thought it was worth checking) the age fits, but each site has a discrepancy in her height and eye color. NamUs states she is 5’5 and weighed 135lbs where the Charley Project said she was 5’10 and weighed 165. NamUS says her eye color is blue; Charley says they are brown.

I also see that Cynthia has DNA available, but I didn’t know if that would be a hit to the UP #1567 in the system.

Please let me know your thoughts. I figured I would submit since she hasn’t been identified yet.

She said she would check her out. I know it is a long shot, but 240 girls are already ruled out.

chaddylex · Sep 30, 2015

chaddylex said:
Yesterday I had time here at work to look and see if I could find any missing girls that kind of fit the description of Shotgun Jane Doe. I narrowed it down to the states that Rainwater listed in her above post. I found this girl, Cynthia Schmidt missing from Minnesota. I sent the following email to Amy Dobbs at NamUS
Hi Amy,

I know you are wanting to find out who the UP #1567 is, (and so do I) and I didn’t see this girl, Cynthia Schmidt on the rule out list. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12427/1/
https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-divisions/administrative/Documents/SchmidtCynthia.pdf
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/schmidt_cynthia.html

Cynthia went missing in August 1986.. She had a fractured leg it states in her NamUS file, ( I believe the opposite legs, but I still thought it was worth checking) the age fits, but each site has a discrepancy in her height and eye color. NamUs states she is 5’5 and weighed 135lbs where the Charley Project said she was 5’10 and weighed 165. NamUS says her eye color is blue; Charley says they are brown.

I also see that Cynthia has DNA available, but I didn’t know if that would be a hit to the UP #1567 in the system.

Please let me know your thoughts. I figured I would submit since she hasn’t been identified yet.

She said she would check her out. I know it is a long shot, but 240 girls are already ruled out.

I am glad Amy Dobbs followed up on my email. Cynthia Schmidt is now on the rule out list for Shot gun Jane Doe. 241 rule outs. https://identifyus.org/en/cases/1567

zelda_s · Oct 17, 2015

I have read before that this Jane Doe was facially unrecognisable, but I was on her wiki page and it gave a link to a 'touched up/edited postmortem photo'. I didn't view it because I didn't know how graphic it was, but if her PM pic is availible that would be good.

Also so great news about the isotope analysis

JayFletcher6493 · Oct 17, 2015

Can you provide a link to that touched up photo?

thanks

FiveFelines · Oct 17, 2015

zelda_s said:
I have read before that this Jane Doe was facially unrecognisable, but I was on her wiki page and it gave a link to a 'touched up/edited postmortem photo'. I didn't view it because I didn't know how graphic it was, but if her PM pic is availible that would be good.

Also so great news about the isotope analysis

Are you sure you're not thinking of "Knox County Jane Doe"--the redhead found inside a refrigerator in KY?

(http://unidentified.wikia.com/wiki/Knox_County_Jane_Doe_(1985))

There is a PM photo of her at Namus. I don't think a PM photo of Shotgun JD has ever been released. Wiki and other sources only have an artist's rendering.

zelda_s · Oct 18, 2015

JayFletcher6493 said:
Can you provide a link to that touched up photo? thanks

I had a look just now but it seems to have been removed from wiki. It was under 'list of unidentified murder victims in the united states', under 'Tennessee' but it's gone now.

sidneyia · Oct 18, 2015

zelda_s said:
I had a look just now but it seems to have been removed from wiki. It was under 'list of unidentified murder victims in the united states', under 'Tennessee' but it's gone now.

It was the same reconstruction that was posted earlier in this thread.

buffetoflies · Oct 19, 2015

JayFletcher6493 said:
Can you provide a link to that touched up photo? thanks

I have seen the photo of sgjd here before. I believe she was shot in the upper temple / forehead area and the spot is noticeably Photoshopped. most of her face is ok though.

Why are the states for isotope test totally different? If the results changed so drastically for this one, can it be presumed testing for other uids is also off by a lot?

rainwater said:
NEW TESTING SHOWS SJD was from one of the following states: Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, Maryland, West Virginia & Virginia.

also.. why isn't wisconsin included with these states? it's surrounded on all sides by listed ones...

zelda_s · Oct 19, 2015

buffetoflies said:
I have seen the photo of sgjd here before. I believe she was shot in the upper temple / forehead area and the spot is noticeably Photoshopped. most of her face is ok though.

Why are the states for isotope test totally different? If the results changed so drastically for this one, can it be presumed testing for other uids is also off by a lot?

also.. why isn't wisconsin included with these states? it's surrounded on all sides by listed ones...

Where did you see the pm? Also I know what you mean about the isotope analysis. It is confusing

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