Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #10

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alucardsdream said:
My personal opinion is that the DA will end up bargaining with TC in order to bring ET home. TC needs to feel like he's the one in control, and unless LE gets lucky soon and manages to hunt them down, I don't know how else it could end. Maybe if TC feels he's still in control - surrendering on his own terms - they can avoid the risk of a shootout or other violent end.
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A couple of peeps here thought he had his gun on his back under his shirt in the Walmart photo. I think he brought the handguns because he's CIA lol or he's willing to get in shootout before he would ever surrender.
 
alucardsdream said:
My personal opinion is that the DA will end up bargaining with TC in order to bring ET home. TC needs to feel like he's the one in control, and unless LE gets lucky soon and manages to hunt them down, I don't know how else it could end. Maybe if TC feels he's still in control - surrendering on his own terms - they can avoid the risk of a shootout or other violent end.
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I don't think that will happen. Because 1. I have never heard of a DA doing that, ever. 2. I don't think his charge will be that serious. Even if a judge decides to throw the book at him, he will be out of jail in less than one year anyway.
 
Mom24 said:
He could. If he releases her he's more likely to get a softer sentence. It's frustrating, but the law is written in such a way as to facilitate the return of an abducted child Now he could face other charges, including federal charges, but all that depends on a myriad of circumstances, what condition ET is in, how long she was gone for, how far he took her, if he sexually assaulted her, if he threatened her, if he ever used his weapons to force her to do anything, etc. Right now, if she's unharmed and he releases her, he'll most likely get a fine and be charged with a misdemeanor, but that window is closing the longer he keeps her.
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Plus the DA said he was very surprised to hear it was TC as he was such a nice guy in HS.
 
KaaBoom said:
I don't think that will happen. Because 1. I have never heard of a DA doing that, ever. 2. I don't think his charge will be that serious. Even if a judge decides to throw the book at him, he will be out of jail in less than one year anyway.
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The DA is the only person who can offer a plea bargain.
 
gitana1 said:


I think all cases in which an adult male takes a young girl (or boy) he already knows, has spent a lot of time with and has been obsessed with for awhile is comparable to this.


Some of them are men who steal kids they're related to. Some are teachers or sports instructors and some are creepy men they met elsewhere or on the internet and were lured.


So I think Hannah Anderson's case is comparable.


And the recent case of the uncle by marriage who stole his young niece, sexually assaulted her for awhile until some men hunting them found him and the child and rescued her.


The famous case of Jody Plauche, the boy stolen by the karate instructor who had been molesting him (who was shot to death by the boy's father as he was extradited), is another.


There have been so many. One was a 12 year old (I think) who was taken by some man who murdered her mother. I think she was found in California by an astute observer who saw her leaving a store with a man and just felt something was wrong. And called 911.


There was one just last week or so. A 13 year old California girl stolen by a 34 year old named Papadonis. Popped I think at the Canadian border. Sadly, the mother was aware of the "relationship" and didn't seem too disturbed.


My memory of all these cases isn't that great. Many involve hiding in the woods or whatever. Some in motels or cars in different states. They all seem to last about one-two weeks before getting caught.


Maybe sleuthers can list the cases we've covered on here? And compare how long it took to rescue the kid and how?
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The 12-year-old who was taken by a man who murdered her mother is Brittany Mae Smith. Another sleuther helped me remember her name about 7 threads ago. She was found in San Francisco a week after being abducted in Virginia.
 
Whiteorchids said:
So another words since he doesn't have a criminal record he could just get probation?
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I think that is possible. It will probably depend a lot on public opinion at the time of a trial, and if the DA and the judge want to make an example of him, or not. Either way I can't see him spending a lot of time in jail over this.
 
I was hoping he would get jail time as it would keep them separated. Her Dad could get a restraining order but then what are the chances of keeping those two apart even with stay away order?
 
Whiteorchids said:
A couple of peeps here thought he had his gun on his back under his shirt in the Walmart photo. I think he brought the handguns because he's CIA lol or he's willing to get in shootout before he would ever surrender.
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I have never seen or heard of anyone carrying a handgun on their back. That would be probably the worst place for it.
 
Irishboy said:
Been as impatient as everyone to get a quick resolution of this and ET back home.
I tried to go back on some earlier high profile disappearances to compare this to see the time frame when to expect the victim was returned and when we could expect an ending
Some I remember

Hannah Anderson - about 1 week her and captor were discovered about 1000 miles away in a campsite, captor shot

Abigail Hernandez - 9 months, walked back into her home, no more than 20 miles away, capture arrested and convicted

Elizabeth Smart- 9 months, discovered on a public street, she was only 18 miles away - captors convicted.

Jaycee Dugard - 16 years, walked in to a parole office. Captors convicted

ET - when I tried to compare this to expect when her return the one problem is that these abductions was forced. Can't use any of the other cases as a benchmark her since the circumstances are different. Don't want to get into a mind control over a physical abduction debate. Those were physical and violent, I don't get this "disappearance" and how it is playing out. IMO everyone in this has some part in how bad this went.
I feel horrible for ET how her life has begun and is unfolding. I hope she finds a better life, not with that creep -, lives are shattered. I empathize with the father having raised teens and it is a difficult time and I hope he finds eventual peace.
Time for me to go into lurker mode given the latest developments I don't think I can add any more. I'll watch this and learn and maybe help with the next one.
And to TC I know you will get what you deserve, not ET but a long sentence for the rest of your life. You gave up yours.
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Amber Woolwine and Max Kozak. They were caught in Texas after a few weeks. This case reminds me very much of that one.
 
alucardsdream said:
The DA is the only person who can offer a plea bargain.
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I don't believe they can offer him a plea bargain, before he is arrested and charged. I have never heard of it happening anyway.
 
KaaBoom said:
I have never seen or heard of anyone carrying a handgun on their back. That would be probably the worst place for it.
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But the mental picture of police closing in TC with guns drawn while he stumbles around trying to pull up his shirt and tries to reach to get to his gun is fantastic.
 
Whiteorchids said:
I was hoping he would get jail time as it would keep them separated. Her Dad could get a restraining order but then what are the chances of keeping those two apart even with stay away order?
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I don't know. In two years, she will be 18 and then nothing can keep them apart.
 
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