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Absolutely.A neighbor hearing screams should and I think would have been front page news with this case!
Absolutely.A neighbor hearing screams should and I think would have been front page news with this case!
I don't recall anyone referencing a scream at any time. I've been on the thread since Day 1, have listened and watched all the videos. <modsnip> MOO!
I don’t think CH has returned. I don’t know what the usual rotation was between her home and TN.I'm not aware that CH has returned to the area nor do I know if CM is still in the area to interview them in person. I'd be there to support my daughter going through such an emotionally difficult time. It makes me wonder if CH and DW really don't get along. JMO
bbmI think it is more likely a utility such as the power company was trimming the trees and they used a licensed contractor for liability reasons. Whomever it was, LE would have investigated early on, imo.
This is the first I've heard of a church fire and have no idea if it is relevant.
The MSM coverage on this case has been pretty sparse IMO.A neighbor hearing screams should and I think would have been front page news with this case! It's always been that she vanished into thin air - "just gone" in "two minutes" after going to the basement. Now there are haunting screams? Haunting screams that later are said to be muffled screams trying to get a breath out? What??
I understand where you are coming from. The reason the focus is on the parents is for the sake of finding "truth" and "facts". Actually, it looks like a back end approach that professionals are taking. On the other hand, it is pretty clever. Some LE who have experience with certain types of crime can see a bigger picture.
It is said, "you can catch more flies with honey (past survivor) than you can with vinegar, (present day perp)."
So , "you can catch more criminals with the past foot prints then you can with current finger prints." Dick Tracy Lee
What is the hunters MO- Modus Operandi: pattern, method.
What type - group /individual/loner? It all leads to possibilities or probabilities.
What type of circles navigate around the hunter, or what "hunters" does the hunter attrack.
Talking about a main subject's past may distract the perp. They may think the LE is way off.
Depending on the victim or perp, the truth and facts lie in the past. Unless there is an eyewittness to the present circumstances, the past is all that they have to connect dots.
With that said, my first questions.
Who does the city hire to cut trees?
Day laborers with experience? Migrants? Church members with experience?
DW said he has had drug users that haven't worked out because of their habit.
Sonds sketcy. (who does Mr. "Sketchy" bring into the picture). Skimping on solid reliable employees to save a buck has it's risks. That is including the city.
Who was in the trees that day?
How does the county cut trees on private property? Would the Wells higher "landscapers" to cut back their trees. Really. Would they? IMO probably not.
Sounds like another lawsuit if an abdution points to officials.
Also, WHO posted a picture of CW sleeping in church?
RED FLAG! in my opinion.
It wasn't the Wells who posted the negative photo.
WHO BURNED THE CHURCH DOWN? What was in the attic where the fire started?
LE plays their cards close to the vest. They may have asked the neighbors not to speak to the media and may have asked CBW and DW not to mention the screams.A neighbor hearing screams should and I think would have been front page news with this case! It's always been that she vanished into thin air - "just gone" in "two minutes" after going to the basement. Now there are haunting screams? Haunting screams that later are said to be muffled screams trying to get a breath out? What??
So on a different day, after SW was already missing. Sounds like the boys were fighting, per the linked article:Found it on the listings we have for Summer
Department of Child Services at family home of missing Summer Wells as brothers struggle with 5-year-old girl’s disappearance [VIDEO]
Do you think that maybe DW has been in contact with LE in the last few days? I only ask because if he wasn't allowed to say anything before how does he know he's allowed to mention the scream now?LE plays their cards close to the vest. They may have asked the neighbors not to speak to the media and may have asked CBW and DW not to mention the screams.
For all we know, LE may be watching a suspect <modsnip>, but CBW and DW might not even be in the loop.
I think that he may have stopped listening to their advice out of frustration with the apparent lack of progress. (LE can ask someone not to mention something but they can't disallow any statement; they don't have judicial authority.)Do you think that maybe DW has been in contact with LE in the last few days? I only ask because if he wasn't allowed to say anything before how does he know he's allowed to mention the scream now?
bbmI understand where you are coming from. The reason the focus is on the parents is for the sake of finding "truth" and "facts". Actually, it looks like a back end approach that professionals are taking. On the other hand, it is pretty clever. Some LE who have experience with certain types of crime can see a bigger picture.
It is said, "you can catch more flies with honey (past survivor) than you can with vinegar, (present day perp)."
So , "you can catch more criminals with the past foot prints then you can with current finger prints." Dick Tracy Lee
What is the hunters MO- Modus Operandi: pattern, method.
What type - group /individual/loner? It all leads to possibilities or probabilities.
What type of circles navigate around the hunter, or what "hunters" does the hunter attrack.
Talking about a main subject's past may distract the perp. They may think the LE is way off.
Depending on the victim or perp, the truth and facts lie in the past. Unless there is an eyewittness to the present circumstances, the past is all that they have to connect dots.
With that said, my first questions.
Who does the city hire to cut trees?
Day laborers with experience? Migrants? Church members with experience?
DW said he has had drug users that haven't worked out because of their habit.
Sonds sketcy. (who does Mr. "Sketchy" bring into the picture). Skimping on solid reliable employees to save a buck has it's risks. That is including the city.
Who was in the trees that day?
How does the county cut trees on private property? Would the Wells higher "landscapers" to cut back their trees. Really. Would they? IMO probably not.
Sounds like another lawsuit if an abdution points to officials.
<modsnip>
WHO BURNED THE CHURCH DOWN? What was in the attic where the fire started?
Apparent lack of progress as it appears to him do you mean? As we don't honestly know what progress they have made. Like you said previously I think they are keeping things close to the vest.I think that he may have stopped listening to their advice out of frustration with the apparent lack of progress. (LE can ask someone not to mention something but they can't disallow any statement; they don't have judicial authority.)
Maybe there WAS a scream. Maybe they all heard it but only the neighbor is reporting it? I don't really believe that, though. If this was true, DW would have brought it up from the beginning and not stopped talking about it since it would seem to support his abduction theory. All MOO!That is the right question.
Afaik, there were five people present at the house when Summer vanished.
Imo.
Most parents of missing children (no matter their age) hold out hope of survival until there’s proof of death, hoping their child beats the odds.
DW began referring to Summer in the past tense very quickly after she disappeared. The almost immediate assumption that she is dead seems off.
jmo
Meet too. I went out with 52 and hung at least half. The rest I handed out.From my own personal experience hanging flyers, not one single business owner told me no. And I think I hung 50 or more.
*ALL MY OPINION*
What in a father's mind when asked a question would make him decide that he needs to paint his missing 5 year old daughter as a bully (taking things from all of her brothers that weren't hers, breaking them and laughing about it). And then continue on to defend his sons and then specifically bring attention to the defense of the oldest?
All of this while answering a simple yes or no question about his daughters health.
I have trouble with this.
I have 5 children and this behavior is not normal to me least. I have trouble believing that that no siblings retaliated in any way. I have zero faith in that statement. I wasn't born yesterday.
In my experience with siblings, students and raising my children, they fight back, defend their toys, they say hey thats mine, they grab it back, push down, hit, yell, cry and scream. Most they defend themselves and what is theirs.
IMO, This was a very random piece of information that had nothing to do with the question. This is concerning to me. What made him feel that this whole response was necessary?
Any thoughts on DWs rambling answer about Summer being autistic or not?
I remember someone referencing a scream very early on, I'm sure it was CW that said it? Someone said it, they heard a scream and she was gone. Someome tell me they remember this too?!
bbmIt was my understanding that the power company was trimming and cutting within their right of way. Not the county. The power company probably has a vigorous and ongoing cutting program to help prevent trees and branches from falling on their equipment during storms.
The church that burned was not the Wells’ church, but I think we always wonder about arson when a church goes up in flames. I know I do.
The video showing CW slumped in the pew and asleep during church appeared (to me) to be a general video of the entire congregation and the event they were attending. Not something directed specifically at CW, but uncovered after SW vanished.
MOO
There were 2 sets of bunk beds. One upstairs, which CW said was for the two older boys; and the other downstairs bunk beds which were for Summer and the youngest boy. Then it shows mattresses or blanket pallets on the floor next to the downstairs bunk beds - CW says that since Summer disappeared, she has all 3 boys sleeping in the basement.I remember the bunk bed...I do not recall it being for Summer and brother.