Travis Alexander's Journals and text messages

[Caylee Advocate]

The following had been added to chapter 14 of "Our Friend Travis" by Chris and Sky Hughes, paperback version:



"Thanks to Beth Karas and karasoncrime.com, text messages providing us with further insight have become available. On May 22, 2008, Travis knew that Jodi had done something and wanted her to admit it. These are the text messages between the two of them (We have not edited these texts.):

May 22,2008:

Travis: I’m not mad. But I know what you did and until you will admit we won’t talk.

Jodi: Alright call me then I’ll tell you everything I know.

Travis: Are you going to admit it. If not then we r not talking.

Jodi: You need to hear about what happened and why. Am I guilty? Yes. But it’s more than just that. The stuff involving you is just a fraction of what has happened. I’m in a BIG mess. I have a lot of apologizing to do to a lot of people. I didn’t even see this one coming, and I can’t believe how stupid I was! I really really screwed the pooch on this one. So badly I have to call Parker Stan tomorrow.

(“Parker Stan” is the Parker Stanbury law firm in California. With her Pre-Paid Legal membership, Jodi could call them and get legal advice.)

Jodi: What’s the deal? Call me and we’ll talk. This is serious, you need to know.

Travis: In a minute.



Okay, here are the rest of the texts.
These are from May 26, 2008


Travis: Put it in a email.

Jodi: I can’t. It’ll literally take less than 5 min. Maybe only 4. It’s important because it effects us both.

Travis: Then leave it on a voicemail. I’m not speaking to you leave me alone about it.

Jodi: Let’s just say it’s too incriminating for an email/voicemail whatever. Just let me say it and I’m done.

Travis: I don’t really care. You haven’t seem to care about privacy in the past. Just leave the voicemail or nothing.

Jodi: Well I’m not going to leave you the incriminating part on the voicemail or anywhere. So we can forget that part. I’ll tell u the other part but I need a response from you about it. Deal?

 

[pocketaccent]

May and June texts as a whole aren't posted yet, but I love you Pocket for finding the May - June killer- TA texts tucked away in that separate link of all their texts. I looked there before but skedaddled without checking the last pages. Aaaarggh!

Although we don't yet have May-June in the aggregate texts, we can kind of put those May-June included in the individual separate texts together to figure out what's going on. Good enough for me!

It was incredibly sad for me to see the unanswered texts left by Maria and Chris. Travis! Travis.... at the end by Maria was heartbreaking. That's how she usually initiates texts to Travis.

 

[Wing Ding]

Joey is the killer's brother. The one who didn't even bother to show up for his deposition by Nurmi, IIRC. No love lost there.

I see. Afaik, his name never came up in or out of court during all of her trials so that's the first time I'd heard of him. I though Joey may have been another "Abe" (as in someone else Jodi was playing off Travis just to mess with him). I guess that would also explain why #1 Mom would be paying for most of the trip. Boy, if living off other people's money was an Olympic event, Jodi would get the Gold Medal.

Ok... thanks, Hope.

 

[Wing Ding]

I may be misremembering but I thought Ryan said she left after 1:00, maybe closer to 2:00 (but well after midnight), but you're right, there is some time missing there. She did make 3 gas purchases in SLC though, JM had the Tesoro lady on the stand to prove the third purchse - she filled the gas cans on that stop but from tracking the rest of her trip with mileage and gas receipts, she never used the gas in the cans, at least not to put in her tank. Maybe she put it in her Intrepid tank when she got the car back in Redding? I don't recall if she bought gas then before going back in it to Yreka.

I think you're right, GV. Two o'clock sounds about right now that you mention it. Thanks. Ok, so I guess she was trolling around the area for only two hours then. Hmm...

Also, do you know if she filled up the car's tank in Redding before turning it in? I'm curious if the gas she bought in SLC was to top-off the tank before dropping the car off. Otherwise, the three gas purchases at Tesoro don't make a whole lotta sense to me. Even if you're gonna burn evidence at 3 am in the desert of Utah or Nevada, I wouldn't think you'd need 15 gallons of fuel for that. But, hey... I've never killed anyone so how would I know?

 

[geevee]

I think you're right, GV. Two o'clock sounds about right now that you mention it. Thanks. Ok, so I guess she was trolling around the area for only two hours then. Hmm...

Also, do you know if she filled up the car's tank in Redding before turning it in? I'm curious if the gas she bought in SLC was to top-off the tank before dropping the car off. Otherwise, the three gas purchases at Tesoro don't make a whole lotta sense to me. Even if you're gonna burn evidence at 3 am in the desert of Utah or Nevada, I wouldn't think you'd need 15 gallons of fuel for that. But, hey... I've never killed anyone so how would I know?

The rental receipt showed the car returned with -0- gas ("Fuel Out 8/8 Fuel In 0/8"), I just looked on the receipts and bank statement thread and there is a receipt for a gas purchase in Redding on 6/07 for $40.25 (almost 9 gallons), but it didn't go into the rental, must have gone into the Interpid for the trip back to Yreka, carrying with her those 3 gas cans full of gasoline.

P.S. Yeah, I don't think she used the gas for a bonfire, gun metal doesn't burn nor melt at gas-burn temps. Besides, she may have buried his journals along with the weaponry, I'm certain she didn't want anyone to know what he said about her all the time he'd known her, but she would want to keep them safe somewhere, along with her implements, imo.

 

[krkrjx]

The rental receipt showed the car returned with -0- gas ("Fuel Out 8/8 Fuel In 0/8"), I just looked on the receipts and bank statement thread and there is a receipt for a gas purchase in Redding on 6/07 for $40.25 (almost 9 gallons), but it didn't go into the rental, must have gone into the Interpid for the trip back to Yreka, carrying with her those 3 gas cans full of gasoline.

P.S. Yeah, I don't think she used the gas for a bonfire, gun metal doesn't burn nor melt at gas-burn temps. Besides, she may have buried his journals along with the weaponry, I'm certain she didn't want anyone to know what he said about her all the time he'd known her, but she would want to keep them safe somewhere, along with her implements, imo.

Agree. I thought early on in the case that she might have burned the evidence but as time passed I figured she probably buried everything. And I mean everything, including possibly bloody clothes and towels used in cleanup, maybe even the floor mats from the rental. I think that way based on her personality and how obsessed she gets over even the weirdest things. My take is that she never expected to be suspected, or if so not indicted, and if so not convicted, etc. I believe she would have put all items in question somewhere safe where she could return one day when all this blew over...to look at and maybe even fondle those prizes. At the very least she would have fantasized about doing so.

IMO

 

[RickshawFan]

May 14. After T says have you been snooping my LDSlinkup page (and she goes on and on and on denying it), he says- chill. It's just creepy.

What is LDSlinkup?

 

[RickshawFan]

I may be misremembering but I thougth Ryan said she left after 1:00, maybe closer to 2:00 (but well after midnight), but you're right, there is some time missing there. She did make 3 gas purchases in SLC though, JM had the Tesoro lady on the stand to prove the third purchse - she filled the gas cans on that stop but from tracking the rest of her trip with mileage and gas receipts, she never used the gas in the cans, at least not to put in her tank. Maybe she put it in her Intrepid tank when she got the car back in Redding? I don't recall if she bought gas then before going back in it to Yreka.

She could have used gas to build a bonfire? In the barbecue of a rest area?

 

[RickshawFan]

Wow!

What would ALV say to THAT? I also wonder if that exchange was deemed too prejudicial for Juan to use.

I'm hearing from posters here that ALV was restricted in the texts she used. But it was clear she had access to waaaaaay more texts than were covered in the trial. Didn't JM ask her about the piles of texts she read?

It was clearer that Phoney Dr. Phoneseca and maybe the guy with the hairpiece saw very few texts, but ALV had access to all of them? Of course, she only pretended to read them all (while billing AZ taxpayers) and spent much of her time "reading beyond the words", but IIRC she did have access to all of them.

 

[RickshawFan]

I think you're right, GV. Two o'clock sounds about right now that you mention it. Thanks. Ok, so I guess she was trolling around the area for only two hours then. Hmm...

Also, do you know if she filled up the car's tank in Redding before turning it in? I'm curious if the gas she bought in SLC was to top-off the tank before dropping the car off. Otherwise, the three gas purchases at Tesoro don't make a whole lotta sense to me. Even if you're gonna burn evidence at 3 am in the desert of Utah or Nevada, I wouldn't think you'd need 15 gallons of fuel for that. But, hey... I've never killed anyone so how would I know?

Didn't she need to be at work in Yreka in the morning the next day? That's an unbelievable amount of driving! It's 770 miles the shortest way. Nevada's easy, but CA is all mountainous until you get to I-5.

 

[Tiger09]

From 4/1/08 (paraphrased to a degree)

Travis texts to a friend named Michelle L: "I've had no privacy for over a year. She's read my text messages, journals. She's gotten into my emails several times. She's even got a spy. It is very frustrating to not have any privacy. All she's done is cause self inflicted pain. She heard us hug in my office and say I love you to each other.

Michelle L responded : Wow that's crazy. I didn't know she did all that.

Travis then texts: Poor Lisa has been caught in the middle. ...the tire slashing was bad....Although Jodi is leaving, there's still a psycho out there.

He then texts: I guess I should be flattered. This attention is usually reserved for celebrities. A dog doesn't bark at a parked car.


I'm not insulting JM, but why wasn't this used in trial? Am I missing something? It imo lays out Travis telling a friend how Jodi has terrorized him for a year.


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[RickshawFan]

Do you think maybe JM interviewed Parker Stan? And the interview was ordered sealed?

 

[RickshawFan]

From 4/1/08 (paraphrased to a degree)

Travis texts to a friend named Michelle L: "I've had no privacy for over a year. She's read my text messages, journals. She's gotten into my emails several times. She's even got a spy. It is very frustrating to not have any privacy. All she's done is cause self inflicted pain. She heard us hug in my office and say I love you to each other.

BBM. This is a minor detail in the passage, but evidently TA was quite liberal with "I love you." This tells me not to read a whole lot into it at all when he says that to JA.

 

[Tiger09]

I'm curious as to what JA did that was so bad (premurder). Clearly, Travis wasn't pressing charges for the stalking or tire slashing. (He clearly tells a friend that Jodi watched him and Lisa make out.) Was it the check kiting? Was it some sort of fraud? Perhaps she was looking for Travis to be her Captain Save A Garden Tool, as she begs him to call. Maybe that's when she decided she had to kill Travis, as no one was going to save her again. Travis probably did know something, which imo was in the missing journals, hence their dissappearing. I don't know, maybe he wouldn't perjur himself for her. Which, of course explains MM's actions and DB's testimony. And why she had no mitigating witnesses.

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[Hope4More]

I'm curious as to what JA did that was so bad (premurder). Clearly, Travis wasn't pressing charges for the stalking or tire slashing. (He clearly tells a friend that Jodi watched him and Lisa make out.) Was it the check kiting? Was it some sort of fraud? Perhaps she was looking for Travis to be her Captain Save A Garden Tool, as she begs him to call. Maybe that's when she decided she had to kill Travis, as no one was going to save her again. Travis probably did know something, which imo was in the missing journals, hence their dissappearing. I don't know, maybe he wouldn't perjur himself for her. Which, of course explains MM's actions and DB's testimony. And why she had no mitigating witnesses.

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Trying to figure out what happened on May 26 and why (and when she likely began thinking murder) is why I am still here. Drives me nuts.


Will post just what seems most relevant from M 26 GChat below.

 

[Val1]

I'm curious as to what JA did that was so bad (premurder). Clearly, Travis wasn't pressing charges for the stalking or tire slashing. (He clearly tells a friend that Jodi watched him and Lisa make out.) Was it the check kiting? Was it some sort of fraud? Perhaps she was looking for Travis to be her Captain Save A Garden Tool, as she begs him to call. Maybe that's when she decided she had to kill Travis, as no one was going to save her again. Travis probably did know something, which imo was in the missing journals, hence their dissappearing. I don't know, maybe he wouldn't perjur himself for her. Which, of course explains MM's actions and DB's testimony. And why she had no mitigating witnesses.

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As I speculated about previously, insurance fraud, but across state lines? She said it involved TA but it sounded like he was more just collateral damage so I think it had to be something to do with tax evasion, insurance, PPL(blackmailing?), or possibly even something like running an escort service across state lines? I can't think of anything else that could involve him as not having been the main target... but any one of those could make getting rid of him, irregardless of her dream journal/board fantasies, a means to a fresh start. That she had involved DB, MM, and GS has some sort of meaning too I think, if only so they couldn't rat on her. Whatever it was, TA thought it was "disgusting" iirc.

 

[Hope4More]

May 26.


Travis told her on May 22 that he knew what she had done, and wasn't angry with her. He just insisted that she tell the truth about it.

As far as I can tell, they did not communicate again until the night of May 25 and on into the 26.

I'm not sure I'm remembering the sequence correctly but I think she called him (the "disgusting call"), he emailed her (unavailable or erased by her), he wanted a response but she didn't reply, he texted her she was a sociopath, etc., they began G-chatting , she kept saying she was working on an email to him, by the end of the call Travis is calling the email a worthless piece of sh-t but hasn't seen it yet, the Gchat ends.

We don't have the email. Either she never sent it, or it was deleted after it was received, by either T or the killer.


Here are the snippets that I think offer the only partial clues within the Gchat itself..


T: tell me the truth. tell me you are not sorry. stop faking sorry and I'll stop faking to be through with you.

T: I thought I could break away this time, but you knew one call would reel me back in.

T: .if you want to sneak around just tell me what you want and I'll give it to you. you'll get it anyway.

T: the email and everything in it was true, but it was my way of getting you closer. I'm addicted.

J: honestly aside from what I wanted to say, I wanted to hear your voice just once. I'm addicted to.

T : just do what you intend to do.

T: if you want my freakin passwords just ask.

T: whatever you may have found it wasn't bad enough to deter you from whatever your purposes so who freaking cares.

T: I tried to stay away this time but you called. You made sure I heard your voice. You knew that would be enough.

T: please tell me. Why. What was your reasoning. Why did you try to cover it up after I told you I knew? Why do you always lie?

T: you do something that would make any sane person shun you. I lash you and forgive, you do it again and I forgive. 30x. that's how many times you've been caught.

J: I've been a bad influence.
T : I'm not mad about that.
J: I know.
T: why did you get into my facebook after all those times I've forgiven you?
J: because I suck.

T: You're not sorry for invading my privacy. I was just a source of pleasure. You don't care about me.

I thought you were something you were not.

You scammed me and I knew you were scamming me. I think you would choose a dollar bill over my life.

It's the other stuff, the blatant lies that I have a problem with.

T: you are not sorry. I think you are just demented and somehow thought taking from me would benefit you somehow.

T: I don't ask that you be sorry I ask that you don't lie. You're not sorry and I don't care. I'm okay with your not being sorry about that. It was me too.

J : yeah but more me.
T: then why.

T: you aren't who you say you are. So tell me why.


T: you did what you did to reel me in. Why me? Why try to manipulate me into loving you. Why do you hate me? What was your objective? so many times I said if you ever loved me you would just tell me the truth and you looked straight into my eyes and lied and I knew it.

( talks about the terrible pain she's caused him) with you lies, inventions, and the psycho s*** you have subjected me to. you have made me want to die countless times . and how do you repay me for forgiving you? By doing the same thing again.

T: you don't care. Just be honest. Quit lying. Can't you quit. You have only told partial truths to cover up lies.

J: i may be liar, etc. but not violent. Didn't slash your tires.

T: tell the truth. You slashed my tires.


T: I loved someone that never existed. What I thought was real never existed. Finish your elderly worthless email.


T: I know you got into my computer and erased a letter I sent to Lisa. I know you did.

J: No!

T; shut up shut up shut up. no more lies. You stole my journals, slashed my tires and I know it.

And you- after everything -send some BS thing down the pipe as you log onto my facebook.

T: can't everything I've done to help you stop you from taking away what belongs to me?

Even when you say you are telling the truth you are lying, even when you come clean it's a partial version of the truth to serve your purpose.

You have been nothing but a liar from the beginning. You are evil.

********If I was (words missing????! ) it is gone because of you.


T: We already know based on the last emails you sent then invaded my privacy that it is BS.

Don't send me some worthless email with all your bogus lies.

In everything you throw it me it's all an agenda to save your own *advertiser censored*. Just like that disgusting call today.

( the chat ended shortly afterwards).

 

[G&AMom]

The following had been added to chapter 14 of "Our Friend Travis" by Chris and Sky Hughes, paperback version:



"Thanks to Beth Karas and karasoncrime.com, text messages providing us with further insight have become available. On May 22, 2008, Travis knew that Jodi had done something and wanted her to admit it. These are the text messages between the two of them (We have not edited these texts.):

May 22,2008:

Travis: I’m not mad. But I know what you did and until you will admit we won’t talk.

Jodi: Alright call me then I’ll tell you everything I know.

Travis: Are you going to admit it. If not then we r not talking.

Jodi: You need to hear about what happened and why. Am I guilty? Yes. But it’s more than just that. The stuff involving you is just a fraction of what has happened. I’m in a BIG mess. I have a lot of apologizing to do to a lot of people. I didn’t even see this one coming, and I can’t believe how stupid I was! I really really screwed the pooch on this one. So badly I have to call Parker Stan tomorrow.

(“Parker Stan” is the Parker Stanbury law firm in California. With her Pre-Paid Legal membership, Jodi could call them and get legal advice.)

Jodi: What’s the deal? Call me and we’ll talk. This is serious, you need to know.

Travis: In a minute.

I don't know what to think about this. Part of me feels this is just Jodi being Jodi, exaggerating some relatively minor thing and using it to get him to talk to her on the phone, not just through texts. That's the hard thing with her -- she lies so much it's impossible to know whether you're actually going to get some truth or whether it's just lies as usual.

 

[krkrjx]

I'm curious as to what JA did that was so bad (premurder). Clearly, Travis wasn't pressing charges for the stalking or tire slashing. (He clearly tells a friend that Jodi watched him and Lisa make out.) Was it the check kiting? Was it some sort of fraud? Perhaps she was looking for Travis to be her Captain Save A Garden Tool, as she begs him to call. Maybe that's when she decided she had to kill Travis, as no one was going to save her again. Travis probably did know something, which imo was in the missing journals, hence their dissappearing. I don't know, maybe he wouldn't perjur himself for her. Which, of course explains MM's actions and DB's testimony. And why she had no mitigating witnesses.

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So, she returned the journals, right? Or did he just beg and plead and she ignored? Are there some that as far as everyone knows are still missing?

I think it makes sense to assume he wrote about whatever legal problem she was having or at least she assumed he did and she stole the journals for her own protection. If some are still missing I will assume even more that he did write about it.

Maybe all were recovered but some were not allowed at trial and the order is sealed as the order itself might reveal too much from a defense standpoint.

IDK, he wrote about little stuff, big stuff, everything in between. That's not unusual in a journal, I suppose. But if something big or even slightly big was going down in his stalker's life that required legal advice or assistance, I can't imagine he would not have written that in his journal. That's not the kind of thing he would leave out, imo.

 

[G&AMom]

Trying to figure out what happened on May 26 and why (and when she likely began thinking murder) is why I am still here. Drives me nuts.


Will post just what seems most relevant from M 26 GChat below.

LOL, I know just what you mean!

In some ways, Travis's May 26th text isn't all that different from some of his previous angry text messages to her, just maybe a little longer. I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't the May 26th text and whatever she'd done that caused her to finally put in murder plan in action (because I think she'd been at least fantasizing about it for weeks). Maybe it was just her back in Yreka, living her crappy life in her crappy bedroom at her grandparents. Maybe it didn't take something specific to set her off, just the realization that this is what her life is now and since she can't blame herself for where she is, all the chances she blew, she decided it must be Travis who's to blame.