trial day 43: the defense continues its case in chief #129

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you received the defendant was manipulative . . . investigation revealed she was not abused and she liked to play the victim
I don't recall that
lets take a look at your notes
ok

JM asks ALV to read the document not just scan it

your investigation revealed the defendant like to play the victim
this is about high school
you thought it important enough to write it down

I took notes on every interview I had . . her friend Zena said JA like to play the victim
that is a charcter trait?
could be situational - it is the observation of one other young girl
who knew her well
a young girl - I paid attention to what she said and weighed it with other information
growing up the defendant liked to play the victim
from one source
did I ask you more than one source?

did you considered this information
yes
she was not abused and like to play the victim
contrary to other sources
something you considered
yes

this information - manipulative . . you had and consider whole issue of abuse . . you gave benefit of the doubt to the defendant . . . never asked her
asked her and looked @ statements from JA's mother, grandparents, siblings about JA playing the victim

but you didn't talk to the victim
my notes don't reflect that but don't reflect everything
I talked about abuse before . . . never got it from others that she had patterns of playing the victims - not isolated incidents - patterns
I do not recall if I asked her specifically

whether or not defendant was abused in DV situation
yes between TA and JA relationship

on other circumstance the defendant pretended to be a victim of abuse
no other collaterals suggest Ja PLAYing the victim in fact they talk about her being the victim of her father and mother at times

so unimportant you didn't address it with her?
I am certain I addressed it to some degree
can you tell me anything regard this issue
I can't tell you specifics no

manipulative at that age . . .
objection - sustained

at that age what ever it was - she played the victim . . . isn't true your investigation revealed after she killed TA she was very manipulative

part 1 - I have 1 collateral source saying she was manipulative - I did not say that.
part 2 . . .

do you remember any information from any source - manipulative shortly after killing TA
manipulative in 1 or 2

what does manipulative mean to you
manipulate facts and deceiving people . . .

if you are asking me if she
no I am not - manipulative mean

manipulate or deceive . . .websters dictionary . . . you can change data, deceive or tell half truths

you received info she was manipulative in her relationship with men shortly after the killing?
with what men?
any memory of your notes after JA to Yreka
are you talking aobut her experience in the resteraunt
@ Purple Plum . . her interaction with men . .. indicated that she was
objection - may we approach - you may
 
I think the next time any of us see ALV, it will be as the window slides open at the Burger King drive-thru. I can't WAIT until I never have to set eyes on JA, Wilma and the Nurmster ever ever again.
 
Listen, I just came back from lecture. Are things as bad for ALV as they sound? Just hit the thanks and I'll know, I know you're busy watching. ;)

This witness is officially toast. :rocker:
 
@WildAboutTrial

The sleeping spectator was just removed from the courtroom.

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Rightly so!
 
Jodi is freaking out about the manipulation of men at the purple plum.
 
JA just said in response to JM asking about the purple plum : "Oh my god!! "and looked at JW...and than approach
 
What happened at the Purple Plum? Gee whiz! He's scoring a LOT of points today! Swish! :great:
 
Michael Kiefer@michaelbkieferRight. The woman was removed for sleeping.

LOL
 
Uh oh....he got mighty close to asking if she has problems with her memory
 
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