trial day 45: the defense continues its case in chief #136

[bexlex]

Good for you! That hunk of gorgeousness in my avi is one of my rescues, I have six.

I changed my avatar to our latest shelter sweetheart. She is pure love and saliva!

 

[websurfer]

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[Love Never Fails]

Well only 42 minutes to the drop dead hour. Getting close.

 

[JSR]

Rose222- You aren't the only WSer to think I was male quite a few WSers have had the same opinion. Who knew right? Apparently my posts come across as being male????

 

[fran]

:waiting:

 

[Ari]

WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

People chat loudly as we wait and wonder what is going on behind closed doors in chambers. P.S. McIlroy is even par. #JodiArias

 

[Soliloquy]

She may be hearing from Disney too- using Snow White w/o permission.

You know, there really is some truth to that. She started singing that song from Disney's "Snow White" ("I'm Wishing", if that's the name) in her hideous lecture. That is for sure copyrighted material and requires permission and Disney doesn't take their brand lightly. There's something about just a few bars of copyrighted songs that seems to have really restrictive laws. I've been told that you can't even use more than a line of lyrics (if that) without permission in a book you write. Wouldn't that be interesting if Disney is upset?

 

[Little Mel in ATL]

I am by no means a trial expert, but I agree it is totally ridiculous how many times the family themselves are called back by the judge. Seriously, WTH is up with that?

I always thought Jodi is the only one on trial here. I see absolutely no reason whatsoever for the family to be dragged into any of the court preceedings. Juan is supposed to be the only one to handle anything related to the proceedings. This is beyond absurd to me. The family has been through enough. I can't believe what is happening to them. I am gobsmacked.

Howdy, Hatfield! Thinking about JA and TA's family being in a small room together is unimaginable to me, too. I don't remember where I heard this, but TA's family has the right to be involved/in chambers with the judge, attorneys, and JA, but they are not forced. It is also their right to decline if they so choose. Still... it upsets me just to think about how TA's family must be feeling... This must be absolutely devastating for them... :tears:

 

[LotusPawprint]

Me, too! I had to refresh like 5x before it let me back in. Yikes!



Absolutely.

You're gonna be multi-quoting up a storm now that you know how to, aren't you lady? :giggle:

 

[JustMeDeb]

ALV's response to the jury questions. Are you people mad at me?

 

[ParrotGal]

 

[ShadyLady]

How many are here with visitors?

Also jurors will know which questions were knocked out.

Where is ALV?? In courtroom?

 

[SyraKelly]

this is driving me to drink!!!

 

[khaki]

I'll paste the below from a site with people in the legal/court area.I will later post about Leading Questions and how bad that is to have done by ALV. It includes this tid-bit:

Leading questions are questions that are framed in a way that evokes a specific response from the individual being questioned. Issues about such questions can come up in journalistic interviews, court rooms, and surveys, and in some cases, the use of such questions is viewed as a breach of ethics and professionalism.
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The behaviors allowed in the spectator seats confuse me. The very few times I was in a gallery watching a trial, there were rules in place. No distractive behaviors, no food, no drink, no laughter. I am curious to see the jurors thoughts on those things after trial, if they even discuss anything.


IMO: On Monday the judge should include in her "daily admonitions" that any outburst from the gallery will result in removal from and revocation of access to the courtroom... without consequences the "Alyce LaViolette Trio" will continue their antics...


I have never seen anything quite like it, either. I have been observing trials since I was young, and the atmosphere in the courtroom is usually respectful and controlled. Most judges won't tolerate any less. What really surprises me is how often the MIT spec is allowed to go and sit with Jodi, every time there is a sidebar. She sits, and they whisper and laugh and giggle together like they are besties in Jr. High! Usually, for security purposes, no one but the attorneys are allowed to get near the defendant. This judge just seems to have let all common sense and control fly out the window, and I don't get why.


Yes! I could not agree with you more. I go to court pretty much every day for my job. I also work for 2 judges. We were talking about this very issue on Friday at lunch. I was describing the behavior of the gallery, attorneys, witnesses etc. and I even played the ALV "Are you angry at me Mr. Martinez" bit. They were appalled.

Our courtrooms here do not allow ANY FOOD or drink (besides water bottles) in the court. There is no gum chewing, no using your cell phones, no reading newspapers. That kind of thing. In my opinion, this judge has no respect from anyone in her courtroom and she doesn't demand it. If an outburst of laughing happened here, anyone who was caught laughing would have been thrown out. The Mitigation Specialist would have been sanctioned and probably her supervisors as well.

When ALV was becoming combative, the judge should have looked at her and said, "I'm going to ask you one more time to answer the questions Yes or No or you will be held in contempt."

This stopping court for people being "sick" is a joke too. They needed a hard nosed Judge to handle this case. Maybe after/if JM speaks to the Judge about the ALV/Sam thing, she will realize things are out of control and she better get her courtroom on track fast.

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32:42 Juan starts cross in his normal tone of voice. Firm but not raised.

AL is deliberately evasive and being obtuse and combative

38:47 Yes or no! ...
AL pulls her 'are you angry at me'

Her PLANTS not only laugh but make it very loud acting up.
(at this point they should have been told to exit the court room)

Thank you so much! Excellent post and so insightful!

 

[SunnyinMO]

I went to get my hair cut and made my DH promise to stay in front of the TV and take notes. I got home and the pad was blank. I was read to abuse him when he said nothing of any importance to report!!

 

[gauntlet]

David Madsen ‏@Quadeus 2m

#jodiarias 25 minutes til the mid-afternoon break. Is there a bell we can ring or a door we can knock on to get things moving?

:floorlaugh:

 

[Love Never Fails]

Would you like a yes or no answer, or would you prefer the truth?

At least you have made me laugh. So I am not fuming anymore.

 

[Karraster]

Jodie is mad because they said a five year old can lie better than her....

 

[beach]

WS is crashing for me .. anic:

I know you guys are anxious and bored :yawn: waiting...and waiting...and waiting....

But the worse thing for the server is when everyone starts refreshing. It slows down everything and everyone. Just a friendly FYI for you guys to consider.

 

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