trial day 49: REBUTTAL; #148

[Hark]

Hi to you all!
First time poster in this thread, long time reader of your wonderful posts and please excuse me as English isn't my first language at all...I'm a portuguese woman reading from my own country so far away.
I've already tried to post but my skills aren't good enough as I see...
I'm a spinner and a knitter(retired now as I was a bank teller in my professional days) and I've been following this trial from the first day, I think.
When I listen to these DA speaking I loose control of my spinning wheel or knitting needles and my yarn takes a life of it's own.
How I whished to give a big hug and lots of kisses to Travis sibblings if I could!
I'm old enough to have been their mother as my only son is now 34 years old...
Sorry for these ramblings but I just felt the need to post this.
God bless you all websleuthers and keep the good job youre doing
Ana

There is no reason to excuse your English...you write it very well! I could not even begin a statement using your native language!

:welcome6:

 

[Truth Detector]

De Marte is just a mouthpiece of JM. Of coarse [sic] she hasn't done anything wrong....she hasn't done anything to solve the problem. If I suffered from depression she would be the last person I would see.

BBM

Not to be coarse, but I trust that she would be able to steer you back onto the right course, of course.

Wasn't Jodi the resident grammar Nazi in their Singles Wards?

 

[kaRN]

It sounds like she can afford to be choosy about who SHE wants to see. Just saying.

As for the rest. Oh my. I think she's done a LOT to help solve the problem, the problem as I see it being the goal of establishing beyond reasonable doubt that JA is guilty guilty guilty guilty of 1st degree murder.

If the person you were responding to suffered from depression she'd need to see a psychiatrist first. Medication is the primary treatment modality for depression.

 

[travelgal]

Copies of the results again if anyone wants them

Could be a discovery violation - the DT trying to use something in Dr. Demarte's testimony that has not been given to JM.

Yes, she spent 10 minutes on that and then introduced an exhibit with more of those copyrighted questions on it.:floorlaugh:

iirc from my days as a Disney Specialist/Travel Agent: Infringement or use of anything protected by Walt Disney copyrights can be a very big load of trouble.
Perhaps the law experts could weigh in

 

[Turnadot]

This witness is NOT just a mouthpiece for JM. During direct, he clearly wanted Dr. D to say something was connected (I forget what) and she said, outright, that she could not connect them without further investigation. If she were just a mouthpiece for JM, she'd have just agreed.

IMO

 

[websurfer]

It's a good thing she didn't solve the problem because that is NOT why she was retained.

I agree..:great:

 

[SamuraiPie]

It's a good thing she didn't solve the problem because that is NOT why she was retained.

If I suffered from depression, I wouldn't see DeMarte either, because I would want some DRUGS and as a clinical psychologist she can't prescribe medications. Only psychiatrists and MDs can do so.

 

[nursebeeme]

New thread is open. Please move on over. This thread will close in about 10 minutes.

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trial day 49: REBUTTAL; #149 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community​

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[BetsyB]

Did it just come out that Samuels scored her with a personality disorder NOS?

Samuels himself stated she had a personality disorder, but was VERY quickly cut off.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Keep it up JD!

 

[Linda7NJ]

De Marte is just a mouthpiece of JM. Of coarse she hasn't done anything wrong....she hasn't done anything to solve the problem. If I suffered from depression she would be the last person I would see.

Why would you think it's her job to do anything to solve the problem? She's doing the job she was hired to do. A forensic evaluation. She would not be able to do the same with one of her patients.

I'd bet she's just as phenomenal in her therapeutic hat.

 

[popsicle]

iirc from my days as a Disney Specialist/Travel Agent: Infringement or use of anything protected by Walt Disney copyrights can be a very big load of trouble.[/SIZE]

And that may be the jury question.

 

[carnnell]

Is this seriously the best Wilmott has to offer as a Defense counselor? Tearing up a very polished and professional expert and asking the same question 20 different ways?
"So you're not an expert in domestic violence"
"So, you wouldn't label yourself a domestic violence expert"
"So, domestic violence is not your expertise"
"So you don't call yourself an expert in domestic violence"

It's so friggin egregious-- it's repulsive!

That is what defense Attorneys does especially when they don't have anything else to cross with in their arsenal.

As one witness said in a trial, "I sound like I am talking to a Parrot". He said that to the Defense Attorney. He was the husband of his wife on trial who wanted to kill him. (The wife was so stupid fake crying on camera of the filming of the TV "Cops" show that went viral on You Tube.)

He said it perfectly. Dr. D is talking to a Parrot.

:rocker: :rocker:

 

[G&AMom]

Isn't "Snow White" copyrighted by Disney????????????

Actually, I doubt that Disney can copyright Snow White. They can copyright the images of the character Snow White from their film -- Jodi's drawing would violate copyright if she sold it -- but not the story. For example, I think you could quote all you want from Shakespeare in a book you wrote. None of that is copyrighted.

 

[Linda7NJ]

If the person you were responding to suffered from depression she'd need to see a psychiatrist first. Medication is the primary treatment modality for depression.

First you'd want to know if it was clinical chronic depression or a situational transient depression. IMO

 

[Donnareit]

Hi to you all!
First time poster in this thread, long time reader of your wonderful posts and please excuse me as English isn't my first language at all...I'm a portuguese woman reading from my own country so far away.
I've already tried to post but my skills aren't good enough as I see...
I'm a spinner and a knitter(retired now as I was a bank teller in my professional days) and I've been following this trial from the first day, I think.
When I listen to these DA speaking I loose control of my spinning wheel or knitting needles and my yarn takes a life of it's own.
How I whished to give a big hug and lots of kisses to Travis sibblings if I could!
I'm old enough to have been their mother as my only son is now 34 years old...
Sorry for these ramblings but I just felt the need to post this.
God bless you all websleuthers and keep the good job youre doing
Ana

:greetings: Welcome fellow spinner.

 

[eLeL724]

Did JA really not stand for the jury? If so, I missed that. Was it after the 10 minute recess?

Probably. It would be typical/expected of a sociopath to no longer respect those who they believe/know will hold them accountable for their (heinous) actions. It appears that JA has rendered her staged signature "please poor pity me will you please take pity on me" look (she has been loving to give the jury every chance they leave the courtroom) completely useless. It took her long enough.

 

[ljwf22]

JW doesn't seemed prepared at all for this line of questioning. I guess she can't get on board with a qualified doctor who doesn't read peer reviews from the Seven Dwarfs!

So no improvement over yesterday then?

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Samuels himself stated she had a personality disorder, but was VERY quickly cut off.

Was he specific?

 

[MrsWilco]

Wilmott is foolish for asking about updated research, when ALV used none whatsoever. Why does she suddenly value such things?

Agreed! Not to mention the fact that she's not even remotely sure about the research she's referring to. She says with incredulity "Are you testifying that the 6 criteria were not in her first book" regarding Leonore Walker. I found this on Barnes and Noble:

"The third edition of the Battered Woman Syndrome integrates new research findings about the Battered Woman Syndrome and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder together with the findings from thirty years ago when Walker first proposed such a syndrome. Six criteria have been found to constitute the Battered Woman Syndrome. These include the three groups of symptoms found in all who have developed PTSD such as reexperiencing the trauma, high levels of anxiety and arousal, and high levels of avoidance behaviors through depression, denial and minimization of the harm women are exposed to. The next three groups are specific to battered women. These include disrupted interpersonal relationships because of the isolation, power and control by the batterer, distorted body image and physical health, and sexual issues" (BBM)

I'm certainly no expert and haven't read the 1st or 3rd editions of this particular book, but it does appear that the B&N description of the 3rd edition (which if the information I found was correct was published in 2009) includes new information including 6 criteria.