trial day 50: REBUTTAL; #153

[Straitfan]

If JW (who IMO is smarter than she gets credit for here) can confuse this witness, probably good for her she wasn't under the rath of JM, doesnt seem she would have liked it. All jmo.....

 

[Nhic]

Shore...,


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Yep. Next person who "rejects" her, at least in her skewed eyes. (Not busting on her strabismus, really!- my lil sis has a lazy eye) I mean skewed in the mental sense.

Absolutely! Whatever boyfriend she would have in the future could be next. Good comparisons also made regarding Drew Peterson (he killed Kathleen, Stacy goes missing presumably also killed), and others.

MOO

BBM: ABSOLUTELY a DANGER ! She should NEVER EVER be let out of :jail:

:moo:

If JA were a man, I've no doubt this jury would convict her of murder 1 and give her the DP.

It's possible someone on that jury feels sympathy for her because she's not a man. :banghead:

If she is ever released, men should be scared. Very scared.

 

[Hatfield]

Snipped by me for space...
Just jumping off your post here, but I also think she put it in the washer on purpose. Heres why, While Jodi wants to deem herself as a photographer professionally, the evidence I have seen is that she likes to take pictures... but didn't have a really strong photographic eye... While she probably knew somethings about cameras and memory cards such as the basic functions... I think that it was her full belief that once deleted they are deleted. If there was any chance for them to be recovered she thinks, "well, I'll throw it in a wash cycle and it will get destroyed"... I don't think she understood the possibility that someone could get those pictures extracted deleted and waterlogged. They probably had a hard time getting them, I would be that it wasn't a simple technique(I missed that testimony).
So while Jodi took pictures and knew basic things, she didn't realize that detectives have their ways of doing things. She wasn't as smart as she thought she was.

Also, I think she didn't take the camera on purpose because in her interrogation it was immediately said to Flores "Nothing was taken right"? She knew that this camera was a recent purchase that he had made and talked to people about, they found the box and possibly the receipt of it (Unsure) in the office didn't they? The case was also found in the home. If a camera was missing, and Jodi liked to take pictures... well, that would make someone look at her...
These are the reasons why I believe she intentionally left the camera behind.

That being said, if it was really Travis' gun that she took I believe she would of left that behind in the washing machine as well.

Re: BBM
I used to think along these lines , but switched to an accident because if she threw it in the wash on purpose, it would still give LE a hint of someone who liked taking pictures which is her.

If she was really trying to make it look like a random murderer, then why would she bring attention to it and let the camera be found in such a strange place. All that would do is tell LE that someone in the house must have wanted to destroy pictures on this camera.

This really makes me think she just messed up and it got thrown in wash by accident.

I do think she would have just taken it, but for the same reason of not wanting to suspect herself, she left it there, but screwed up and it got thrown in wash by accident.

JMO of course

 

[MeeBee]

I'm glad you asked because I watched it in real time and I thought it wasn't as crisp, for lack of better word, of an exchange between JD and JM.

No, but it's good. It shows JDM isn't biased and isn't going to just cater her answers to fit Juan's case. She is just stating the facts and her findings and won't either attorney guide or mold her answers to their benefit. She's very ethical.

 

[lil_buddy]

So HLN After Dark's question tonight: Is JA a danger to society.

I vote yes.

What say you all?

Yep. She relished the kill and would love the challenge of getting it right next time.

 

[minor4th]

Yep...reported, verified and documented...

What kind of scuffles? This is the first I've heard of this.

 

[DAWN TREADER]

OMG I am disgusted with HLN and their sloppy inaccurate irresponsible entertainment and ratings driven programming relative to the Travis Alexander killing. In fact, I think we need a thread devoted to correcting incorrect statements like the ones I heard tonight on After Dark. Does no one care about the truth enough to do their homework? The producers and hosts of this show ought to be ashamed of themselves. Jodi never stole anything? Please.

 

[kaRN]

Jodi's gotten into scuffles in jail?

Yes with a cellmate and she claimed self defense.

 

[Phoebeb]

One thing that bugs me (among so many things) why did she even have the camera in her hand during the dragging photo? I think I remember the unused strap was found in the camera case, so why didn't she just put it down unless she rigged it around her neck somehow?

 

[Hatfield]

If JA were a man, I've no doubt this jury would convict her of murder 1 and give her the DP.

It's possible someone on that jury feels sympathy for her because she's not a man. :banghead:

If she is ever released, men should be scared. Very scared.

I agree. Its kind of sad to think of the double standard that society has. I agree if the genders were flipped, not only would there be DP for sure, but the outrage would be more severe in the MSM. 29 stab wounds and so forth.

 

[PPKik]

I'm trying to watch part 4 on youtube, catching up, but right now it's stuck.

I'm having some trouble understanding what is going on with the MMPI-2. It seems that Dr. DeMarte doesn't use this test, yet it has been admitted, and she's being rudely cross examined on it.

While going over the different scoring levels, she showed on the graph that JA scored low on the antisocial part.

Does anyone know why she is being cross examined on this test, or even scored it, if she doesn't use it?

And how in the heck would JA score low on the antisocial part? This is not the "yes or no" kind of test Doc $ used, IIRC. TIA

[video=youtube;M8XEK-B6OOI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8XEK-B6OOI[/video]

 

[livelife]

I have disliked Dr. Drew since I was a teenager and he was on Loveline with Adam Corolla. I feel in his current role he is just the opposing view in order to get ratings. I do love most of his guests though

 

[Hatfield]

One thing that bugs me (among so many things) why did she even have the camera in her hand during the dragging photo? I think I remember the unused strap was found in the camera case, so why didn't she just put it down unless she rigged it around her neck somehow?

Someone brought up a possibiility last night. Maybe there was another strap. JA had 2 cameras of her own and maybe she used one of her own straps or maybe there was a separate strap for the camera bag that was used.

It does seem like that camera was attached to her as it seemed to follow her around.

 

[Only4Justice]

Hi My WS Friends! Just popping in. Could never keep up

First. I hate the sound of JW's voice. I listen on Sirius to HLM :sick: lol, and I cannot take a moment of her voice or her RUDENESS. Takes me about 10 seconds to change channel!

Second. I've grown tired of the whole thing. I can't stand anymore to look at JA's face. Get it over with already.

In the end, my hope is that Travis is remembered as the TRUE victim.

Thanks for reading :seeya:

 

[nursebeeme]

I'm with you all the way on this. I don't believe there was any medical
category that she could be put in from the beginning.
She CHOSE to kill Travis because if she couldn't have him no one would.
End of story!!

I believe that too much has been put on BPD in this case and I feel
sorry for these people and hope it's just not one more thing in their
lives they worry about. Also I think that they are their own worse
enemy especially when they get to the point of cutting!!

To me Jodie was just one crazy woman who wanted something
she couldn't have and her rage and jealously grew! mmo

while arias' personality disorder may or may not have anything to do with how she slaughtered Travis I find it very interesting to note that both the prosecution and defense experts in psychology tested her with objective tools and found her to be bearing a personality disorder. Does it matter: yes. It is the meat of the defense. Seeing the domestic violence expert taken down to nothing on cross etc (and notice no dv questions from latest expert.. also refer to other juror questions thru the entire case).

The dx of bpd may have nothing to do with what Arias did but the jury is getting it imhoo (based on my opinion of following this entire thing and what questions they are asking). They get it. they also see her. She has dissolved lately into a little (or big) pool of crazy. I am sure the jurors have not changed much.. just show up.. same weight, behavior, etc.. but Arias has seemed to transform since she took the stand imhoo (and just my observation). Each time a peg is taken out from her 20 odd versions she changes a bit more.. and in my opinion=she is exposing her true nature. She further fits every single thing that Dr. Demarte has just testified about her (and alot that she most likely could not say).

There is a lot that cannot come into trials.. to be fair to the accused. But there have been a lot of doors opened in the defense case in chief: the prosecution was waiting for that and they are walking thru it now in rebuttal. :twocents::twocents:

 

[FrayedKnot]

There is no proof that JA stole a ring. Dr. DeMarte probably should have not brought the ring up in her testimony. TA had alot of Pre- Paid Legal and Family Home Evening people over at his house. TA had a number of roommates. These were not friends, only roommates. One is Zachary. He had access to the keys for Travis's bedroom. Zachary also said that the front door to Travis' house was never locked. TA had a roommate, John Hepworth who according to I think, Lisa Andrews, moved out suddenly, as TA and Hepworth did not see eye-to-eye. IIRC, another roomate of TA's was permitted to enter TA's bedroom and bathroom to obtain medication that was in TA's medicine chest. JA has admitted to murdering TA but as far as stealing a ring?? Any number of people could have snooped around and stolen the ring, IMO.

What is really strange is the section about Ashley and Dustin Thompson. Ashley committed suicide later.

Det. Flores Report: http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/floresinvestigationreport.pdf

This Thompson thing has bugged me since day one. She initially told police she thought her not-quite-ex, Dustin, was possibly responsible for the murder. She then withdraws her statement, and 18 (?) months or so later she is dead by a gsw to the head. Ruling: suicide.

Probably just eerie coincidence, but still......:what:

 

[ClosArgs]

Yes with a cellmate and she claimed self defense.

You guys are the best, is there a link we can read about the incident?

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Kato Kaylin (sp?) coming up on HLN.....

now that should be relevant to the case, eh?:drumroll:

 

[nursebeeme]

I'm curious about how many people, besides me, found the story about the dog to be an obvious fiction.

She offered it in response to a question about whether she has anger issues and you can almost see the light bulb go on. She realizes that she has a Hobson's choice: admit to anger and be a suspect, or deny it and not seem credible. Her solution is to invent a silly event in which she gives a dog a little kick and it doesn't suffer any serious injury, but runs away and is never seen again. She gets to profess undying love for all animals, and instead of admitting to occasional fits of rage she becomes St. Jodi of Assisi.

Doggy Boy? Really?

yes, I concur.. that and the feral cats too (we know what she really did with cats based on actual interviews on hln)

I personally think she hates animals:twocents: (or anything that takes attention away from herself)

 

[Steely Dan]

Well I just finished listening to HLN's trial coverage a couple of hours ago and I'm glad I stayed with it. Two more nails in Jodi's coffin today. I didn't know the jury would get to hear about the hiding behind the Christmas tree and that she stole a ring. The jury questions were awesome too.