Mike may have cut out . . . .she wanted to get married when she was about 24 y/o in 2002.
this wasn't a shock to TA -they discussed marriage before - never engaged.
they talked about it.
did he ever tell you he wanted to marry you?
he didn't say it in that way - said she would be a good person to marry but he wasn't ready.
we were in love w/each other, liked each other, time together went by quickly - didn't feel pressure to get married ... eventually she felt like wanting to be married.
it was not overnight . . .. realized how much time had gone by that they dated - didn't see it going that direction - he was not ready @ that point.
that was enough fo you to say I am not hanging out anymore for you to get ready - right?
that is right
broke up with him 2004 - he moved to Mesa you moved to Phoenix
it was in 2005 broke up
move in 2004 still together . . . both moved to az in 2004 - boyfriend and girlfriend when both moved.
when you broke up with TA in2005 did you maintain relationship?
yes we did
period time you separated ?
yes a couple weeks we didn't speak and had time away from each other.
did you and TA have a sexual relationship?
yes we did - dating a long time - we were in love . . .something happens when people are in love - after we had moved to AZ.
this isn't question to judge . .. not what we are talking about . .. lifelong member of the church - sex is inconsistent with dictates of the church
yes
was the fact you having this relationship - kept between 2 of you
that was our private business - we didn't tell people about it
in terms of ramifications within church - did you or TA face ramificatons because of it
no people are just human - people make mistakes - go to Bishop which we did and talked about our relationship - in 2005.
this was in different wards .. . she lived in downtown mesa. . . .had different Bishops - each went individually.
she lost her temple recommend - so did TA
sexual relationship - people make mistakes . . . one time mistake or several times?
objection vaginal intercourse . . .what are we talking about?
sustained
you are familiar with law of chastity - not a vow . .. just rules we live by . . .sometimes we are human we mess up - sometimes people break rules that is what happened.
this law of chastity forbids oral sex, prohibit anal, penile/vaginal intercourse - any type of sexual contact.
one time or happened several times
objection- overruled
you and TA broke the law of chastity broke the law
more than one time - several times
sexual relationship lasted about a year.
talk to the bishop - went separately.
did so with TA's knowledge.
he did so with Deanna's knowledge
you and he had some sort of discussion about goin to see respective bishops in 2005
after broken up?
while still together
after went to bishop - had discussion did you and TA break law of chastity again subsequent to that?
no
