Found Deceased TX - Alan White, 55, seen leaving LA Fitness, Dallas, 22 Oct 2020 #2

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(…) Without Alan's phone is there any way police can find what popular apps Alan might have been using?

Yes, absolutely — Apple (App Store) and Google (Play Store) can provide the police with an overview of every single app downloaded, page visited, finger tap placed.


Source: I have been working in tech, with a strong focus on mobile apps, for 10+ years.
 
If my working professional, semi-OCD spouse was 45 minutes late and had a zoom call in 15 minutes, I'd assume the zoom call was cancelled or there was a technical mixup. No panicking. I'd then assume his phone ringer was accidentally turned off or lost charge and he was late because he was wandering around the grocery store, Home Depot, or Bob Evans restaurant. I'd probably start calling his friends, coworkers and family in about four-five hours. I could safely assume he was safe because my spouse doesn't have any risky behaviors or health issues.
I, therefore, think it's telling that Rusty panicked within 45 minutes of no contact with Alan.

Police can get Alan's phone and texting records with a subpoena. Without Alan's phone is there any way police can find what popular apps Alan might have been using?

I can understand that, but I don't find it odd at all that his husband was concerned when Alan wasn't where he was supposed to be at a specific time. I am punctual to a fault, and my friends/family would know to be concerned if I were late. If I'm not early, something has gone wrong. If I think I'm going to be merely "on time" I will text to let them know. :rolleyes: I think we are all just wired differently time-wise.

My husband is a CPA (do we know if Alan was a CPA? I know he worked for a CPA firm in a different capacity, but I'm not sure I've seen if he was a CPA or not.) and he is incredibly punctual and time driven. He would definitely be home/in office and ready for a call beforehand, and I would be concerned if he were not. Given that, I'd be in exactly the same situation as Alan's husband and be out searching and checking for him if he wasn't home (and presumably wasn't responding to texts or calls). There's certainly no risky behavior and we live in a good area, but I do worry (and participate here, so there's that! LOL).
 
The topic of Alan's husband R and his panic when Alan was late keeps coming up. For people who live their lives by the clock (super regimented), I can completely understand this panic. I don't find it odd at all. Further, couples that are super bonded have that sixth sense about each other. Moms certainly have it.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
Unless someone DOES find an trustworthy article saying that it was backed in, I think the idea comes from a photo of a Porsche at a car lot, used for an illustration, and not claimed to be the car in question when it was found abandoned.
Yes I think this was figured out a while back. I haven’t seen anything that the abandoned car was backed in.
 
A lot of people are querying his gym choices and here’s my 2c

  • Alan’s gym was actually on his usual route to work. Due to Covid he was working from home but it’s likely the membership had been paid for a year either by him or his company. He started work there in feb 2020 so an annual membership would still be in force. I don’t see anything sinister in his gym being separate to his husbands for this reason.
  • It’s also a 24 hour gym and it was part of Alan’s routine to go before work - I assume most gyms aren’t open at 5 am?
  • Alan arrived at the gym at 5 and left around 5:40. Is this strange? No. I don’t see it at strange as he seems to have been a regular gym user and fit looking - from the last video of him. He’s most likely in a maintenance phase of his fitness so less time is needed.
  • Also, he knew he had to get gas and be home early (maybe to have breakfast and shower) so his routine on the day he went missing could be shorter than usual to facilitate that.
  • Why did Rusty panic so early - because it was totally out of the normal for him not to be where he said, at the time he said. Alan is reported to be a very time oriented individual. If my husband said to me that he was going to be home at 6 am as he had a meeting at 7 and wanted to have breakfast and a shower first then I too would begin to worry quite quickly when he didn’t show up. Changes in the patterns of reliable people are generally of concern. If Alan is super conscientious, which I suspect he is as he has a very high level job, then his word is his bond. He should have been home by 615 at latest.
  • He had plans for later that day to bring his niece and her fiancé to see wedding venues. He also had flights book to visit his mother for her birthday soon after.

Discrepancies
  • The racetrac video shows 5:47 but the last data used on his phone was 6:01. Was that when he was paying for petrol?
  • Why did he walk into the shop and stand in an aisle for a minute then turn around and leave without buying anything.
  • Why did he drive into church chicken and stop for 1 minute before driving into inwood/ hai route home.
  • Why was his car not seen on the cvs camera just 4 blocks away and on his route home. What happened in those 4 blocks?
Why the family and police silence?
  • Because they know what happened and are trying to protect his reputation so he can resurface and not lose face eg keep his job, have credit rating issues.
  • It looks like he has a pretty perfect life - a successful career, close family, nice home, long term partner. Was it all too perfect? It’s hard to know.
  • Did he every have a drug problem and lapse back into that? Even with all the nice things in his life there’s a pressure to perform in these high level jobs and he is only in this job since February. Doing up and flipping houses is also stressful. Covid is stressful. His brother passed away in recent years - that’s stressful. Did he relapse?

<modsnip: Negative insinuations about the house for sale are not victim friendly>

Position of car:

from the car park video at the gym you can see Randy reverses cars into parking spots but why was the Porsche reversed into the shrubs where it was found. Wonder if the seat was in its usual location? If you’re dumping a car in an abandoned lot you don’t reverse it into place, do you?

He is on my mind every day and really hope he shows up soon.

Could you please let us know where you got the information from on points 2, 3 & 4 on your discrepancies? Also the source of information on where it was stated that the Porsche was reversed into the shrubs?

TIA
 
I will also mention re: his husband panicking that I am someone who has suffered with anxiety my whole life. A lot of my anxiety stems from my worry about loved ones dying or getting hurt. I would absolutely panic if my spouse, who had a known work call at 7 AM and was always home by X time and is now not responding to texts or phone calls was not home. Part of that may be my own anxiety. Of course we don't know whether or not his husband suffers from anxiety, but just throwing out my own experience.
 
With the muddy tires, it seems probable that Alan's body is located somewhere in this undeveloped area. Why aren't there any searches? If Alan was my loved one, I'd hire people with drones to cover this land.

Google Maps

I said the same thing a while back.
It certainly wouldn't surprise me to learn Alan isn't far from where his loaner was located.
If there have been any searches, they haven't been made public.
 
And yet... I wonder - would you really leave the car, intact, so close to the body?

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Why do we assume the car has been there for 7 days?
It may have been left there 6 days after his disappearance. If there was indeed mud on the tires, forensic specialists could probably determine the 'age' of that mud, which would indicate whether it was left there on the 28th of October - or earlier.

It was raining on the 28th. On the 29th, police find that car. Perhaps after a tip from one of the residents?
 
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And yet... I wonder - would you really leave the car, intact, so close to the body?
Someone left the key in it hoping it would get stolen, but the road is so remote few people drive down it. Previously it was stated that this was a known dumping area, but when you look at the site from Google and use the arrows to travel down the road, there are only a few tires dumped. There's not much trash at all.
 
The topic of Alan's husband R and his panic when Alan was late keeps coming up. For people who live their lives by the clock (super regimented), I can completely understand this panic. I don't find it odd at all. Further, couples that are super bonded have that sixth sense about each other. Moms certainly have it.

Amateur opinion and speculation
Agreed 1000%. With so little new information, alot of little things end up getting nitpicked when in reality, its very insubstantial. Everyone is different and I know many people, myself included, who are very schedule-driven and would alarm someone if that course is deviated from.
 
Someone left the key in it hoping it would get stolen, but the road is so remote few people drive down it. Previously it was stated that this was a known dumping area, but when you look at the site from Google and use the arrows to travel down the road, there are only a few tires dumped. There's not much trash at all.
Dumping area could also refer to dumping stolen vehicles....thats how I took it. Also, there are numerous police reports of all kinds of refuse being dumped there, so I'm sure there's alot of that regularly too.
 
Every speculation is worth as much as the next, but I can't imagine someone would go through all the trouble of hosing down the seats — that's a lot of work, and you never know whether you missed something or not.

Setting a car on fire will take care of that, and it's quick and dirty.
It brings me back to my earlier post: It's all just a tad too sophisticated…

But if you plan to go back and revisit the car for parts or as a whole, torching it would make your efforts pointless.
 
I will also mention re: his husband panicking that I am someone who has suffered with anxiety my whole life. A lot of my anxiety stems from my worry about loved ones dying or getting hurt. I would absolutely panic if my spouse, who had a known work call at 7 AM and was always home by X time and is now not responding to texts or phone calls was not home. Part of that may be my own anxiety. Of course we don't know whether or not his husband suffers from anxiety, but just throwing out my own experience.
Great post. We have NO idea why his husband was on high alert, but it could be anxiety or past experiences.

I was never like that until my little sister was killed in an auto accident. Now, even though my hubby and children are grown, I have major anxiety when I know they are on the road and I need to know they are ok. Can’t help it. Maybe it’s something like that?
I pray they find Him soon.
 
Dumping area could also refer to dumping stolen vehicles....thats how I took it. Also, there are numerous police reports of all kinds of refuse being dumped there, so I'm sure there's alot of that regularly too.
Google Maps
Use the arrows to travel around that area. There's one very small area with 5 dumped tires. The rest of that area and road is clean. Unless someone cleaned it really good before the Google street view photographer arrived, this wasn't a well-known dump site. The only people I can think of that would have awareness of this bizarrely undeveloped south Dallas site would be USPS.
 
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Alan disappeared Oct. 22.
His car was found Oct. 29.
IMO, if someone(s) took the car and parked it with the intention of waiting to see if it would be tracked, they wouldn’t wait 7 days before stripping it or doing whatever they intended to do.
JMO.
 
Google Maps
Use the arrows to travel around that area. There's one very small area with 5 dumped tires. The rest of that area and road is clean. Unless someone recently cleaned it really good, this wasn't a well-known dump site. The only people I can think of that would have awareness of this bizarrely undeveloped south Dallas site would be USPS.
There are numerous other police reports of found stolen vehicles on that property going back years. Definitely a well known dump site, especially to police officers.
 
There are numerous other police reports of found stolen vehicles on that property going back years. Definitely a well known dump site, especially to police officers.
Was that info in an article? Kitty Street is a very short, dead end road. There is at least one home and a livestock area on it. People who dump usually don't do it where they can be easily caught. This map is from Google.
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Was that info in an article? Kitty Street is a very short, dead end road. There is at least one home and a livestock area on it. People who dump usually don't do it where they can be easily caught. This map is from Google.
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Up thread someone posted the website to see previous reports at the address... they are numerous.
 
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